The overarching issue the redpill has with modern western women is that in their minds sex and intimacy are not intrinsically related where as the redpill would generally argue that least for women sex and intimacy are intrinsically related

wtknight · 2022-10-29T13:48:31+00:00

Flaired CMV as this post is making an affirmative claim

CimZim · 2022-10-29T10:06:58+00:00

in order for a woman or a person in general to be suited for a relationship they kinda have to see sex as something that is to be done with someone they like and feel intimate with.

Why? The majority of men here state that sex can literally be done to a warm bagel, or someone they hate, or a stuffed animal, etc. So if men don't need to feel anything at all for the person or item they fuck, why is it bad if a woman is the same and just uses him as a neutral source of sex?

DXBrigade · 2022-10-29T09:22:49+00:00

Redpill are sex positive for men and sex negative for women.

Ylduts · 2022-10-29T08:41:05+00:00

No. The issue in its simplest form is that many western women want a traditional man while not being traditional themselves. Many seem to think they are entitled to highly sought after men.

Edit: I’m not comfortable saying western women in general, it’s mostly US women.

a_popful_mail · 2022-10-29T11:00:32+00:00

I.. don't really understand entirely where you're running with this. Sex and intimacy are not necessarily the same thing. They're not necessities of one another by any means innately. They can be departed from one another, and to what degrees one is comfortable with differs from person to person. An asexual person may, for example, have no sexual desire but still desire intimacy from a partner. Romance. Love. Cuddling. Dates. That sorta thing. Or someone might be more partial to one night stand type deals and just want sex and no intimacy. Or is okay with it at times but moreso prefers a specific mixture of the two at some varying volume. I prioritize intimacy myself. Sex is an afterthought. I honestly couldn't care if my partner didn't want it a lot because I don't really care. Its nice at times but it isn't a big deal. So I can have the intimacy without necessarily needing the sex. Do I still like it from time to time? Sure. But I cannot do the inverse. I can't do sex devoid of intimacy. So I don't.

It just differs a lot from person to person how they value those two independent things and which takes precedence and how, if either.

calfshrug · 2022-10-29T15:19:42+00:00

CMV, modern women have all fallen for a hottie McHot from their past, and they actually haven’t been able to separate sex from romance, thus they are pair-smitten, not pair-bonded, and whatever they say and do is to cope with heartbreak

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CasperElshao · 2022-10-29T09:32:40+00:00

Honestly just stop dating girls from the big cities.

toasterchild · 2022-10-29T14:19:00+00:00

So many people have major hangups around sex. Sex can be used as a way to become more intimate with someone you love. Sex can be used as just casual pleasure. Sex can be a way to just release some pent up energy. Sex can be used as a weapon. Sex can be used to torture people. Just because you have experienced more than one version of sex doesn't mean the others can't still apply.

In order for someone to be suited for a relationship they just have to want a relationship and be a good fit for their partner.

lovelythecove · 2022-10-29T14:05:00+00:00

I mean, I can go eat a meal with someone I don’t love, like a coworker or a classmate or my bitch ass mother in law, and it’s not intimate, but I can also share a meal with my husband or my sisters or best friend, try off each other’s plates, have intimate conversations, share about our days, take comfort in their presence, etc. The same is true for so many things that are intimate — they become an act of intimacy because of the meaning we give. Sex is not much different. I’ve had sex that was just to get off. I’ve also had passionate, loving, intimate sex that was slow and gentle or dirty and kinky. I feel like you’re forgetting things can serve more than one function?

shakeandbake8 · 2022-10-29T19:04:14+00:00

I disagree. I would think redpill argues they SHOULD be related but modern women’s behavior exposes them as not being related and thus men need to learn to separate them in their minds.

Further the redpill often argues that a woman who has divorced these two values fully in their mind will often not be reliable as a long term partner because of the road blocks she has built over time between these two values.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2022-10-30T18:02:12+00:00

For western women sex and intimacy are not correlated in their beliefs but for traditional non-western women, sex and intimacy are intrinsically correlated. This is the reason why if you want a low n- count traditional woman dating and marrying a western woman is literally the worst thing you can do.

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