Why aren’t more men standing up

Terrible-Ad9335 · 2023-05-31T05:41:06+00:00

This might be optimistic, but i think we (society) are teetering at the top of a large wave. And i feel in the next few years most people will realize how batshit crazy all of this is. One can dream though…

mrkpxx · 2023-05-31T06:19:04+00:00

This is the result of a feminist upbringing.

UnconventionalXY · 2023-05-31T06:27:28+00:00

Entrenched competition between men and "F U Jack I got mine and I'm not going to risk it for you" attitudes.

Wasteofoxyg3n · 2023-05-31T09:59:50+00:00

Because they have been cowed into submission by decades of social conditioning. These men have told "you're worthless!" their entire lives, until they themselves started to believe it.

It's frightening, is it not? How, if repeated for long enough, baseless propaganda can easily become accepted as truth? This is why we need to be heard even if we have to scream at the top of our lungs, this is why we needn't relent to any of their demands. As dramatic as it sounds, feminism is waging an all-out war against masculinity.

imperator285 · 2023-05-31T12:21:19+00:00

Because when you stand up, you're called an incel, or you get HR or the police called on you.

One_Shirt3670 · 2023-05-31T06:57:38+00:00

The direct result of cancel culture You talk you get shit on your face

throwaway173937111 · 2023-05-31T11:54:15+00:00

Honestly? Personally, I’m scared to

lifesuckswannadie · 2023-05-31T13:02:51+00:00

Men have been pacified and they just go along with this nonsense and accept it.

You're completely correct of how ridiculous its gotten, society has lost its mind and men have absolutely no voice.

In terms of the dating thing, they just want to silence men. They don't want tons of men pointing out how terrible it is because the implication is women are doing something wrong. Can't have that.

I too think eventually things will go too far and there will be a big consequences. But not for a long time

OmegaDolphin · 2023-05-31T15:18:31+00:00

Women don’t deserve dates, my wallet my choice

orussell03 · 2023-05-31T14:25:48+00:00

I have already started to talk back and analyze women with a heavy dose of scrutiny. Going to raise my boy in a way that he knows he doesn't HAVE to open doors or pay for dinners.

Mothers of young men and boys have changed their mind too. They are teaching the next generation to NOT grind themselves for someone who is ungrateful.

In another 5~10yrs these women will be running for the hills. I can already see the cracks. A minority of tradwife is surfacing. Rejecting the "Independent Woman " crap.

ExMuzzy · 2023-05-31T14:09:40+00:00

I think some men are brainwashed by the media and our education, others are too scared in fear of backlash.

Wakka_Grand_Wizard · 2023-05-31T08:59:56+00:00

Why? Lol, we tried my guy, we tried but we got the whole horde against us. Women have the upper hand in everything, despite the whole "ma patriarchy" shit. So if a guy dares to put a woman in her place, HR will be involved, police or whatever. A man standing up is not enough. Hell, even if you try to be like "no no no, that is not what I said" women will make you look like a fiend just for arguing your point calmly. In the end of the day, women are agents of the system

We are too deeply fucked politically and financially. Everything is geared towards women. Coding for women, get women into STEM, etc. What about boys? Nothing just a bunch of "rape culture" accusations thrown against them

Best thing is, avoid women if you can. Sure "not all women are bad" but power corrupts, so all women are shit given the power they have been given

vaindioux · 2023-05-31T13:11:22+00:00

Men are so afraid that the people around them call them weak, cowards, mysogyn if they dare go against a woman that they suffer in silence.

At work last year a young lady decided to give me a hard task that she had to do. Manager was called and he asked me to do him a favor and do it.

I was pissed and let other employees of both genders know that it was gender discrimination. About 40 male employees did not talk to me for 2 days. Not a single woman stopped talking to me. Here you go!

They won’t pull that stuff on me anymore. I could have gone to human resources.

Women are discriminated against in some areas but we are too and men DGAF, then when they divorce and get the short end of the stick they cry.

I have no compassion for them and let them know. But let me tell you, men still don’t say or show it but their numbers online has grown considerably fighting for men’s rights. So there is hope!

AnonJetlag · 2023-05-31T12:16:26+00:00

Simply put: cause men want pussy and will do anything to get it

TooMuchToThinkToday · 2023-05-31T12:26:27+00:00

Trust me, it has.

jask0wn3d · 2023-05-31T13:49:09+00:00

1) Women have a multi-trillion dollar Western agenda backing up their backs (Feminism). Men get demonized as soon as we speak about 1-2 topics. Right-Wing, Radicals, Nazis, Looser, Misogynists, Incels, etc. it’s not fitting their Patriarch men oppress women systematically narrative. It would crack a bit. So the media and society will not support it.

2) Men are in general more chill. We try to adapt to situations even when we are fucked. Our mentality is to deal with problems and not to cry about them on TikToks. That’s somehow in us. We first start to cry about it when it’s too late. Divorced and your shit is gone with children 😂

The system is against us. But don’t forget guys. You can piss your name in the snow. I would never swap with a woman. Men be like men 🫡

NeoNotNeo · 2023-05-31T16:56:51+00:00

Because men are indoctrinated to fear shame.

Something that doesn’t exist for women anymore. Any effort of shame is abuse. For both genders

trolsor · 2023-05-31T17:15:42+00:00

I have been seraching answer for that question for sometime now ..
You may dismiss this answer because of context .

I am playing a game called EvE Online. It os extremely men dominated game very harsh with steep learning curve. Totally unhinged and unruled capitalism. Lying stealing , backstabbing, scamming, spreading rumours to gain control over others everything goes. There is unconcesual pvp . And most players in a large corps and aliances . I have seen many man ridiculated , spread rumours about them as rl pedophile , pervert .. most of those men choosed to stay silent . Progress in game painfully slow , real time training , losses are real and publicised, and stakes can be very high .

It was very rare someone stand up for what is right . And all those men pecked by the other males , and deal with serious backlash, trolling , gaslighting.

Last one , have warned himin first time a rl accusation of pedophilia. He said he doesnt care much … he has been acting” cool “ , present strong image , more like if he dop his head into sand enough it wont hurt him .. and he did not want to look like a cry baby and deal with all drama and shit .

Week ago another man had been at the edge , same accusations snowballing for sometime and he had been at the edge of loosing everything he had been working for years and other groups have been attacking and shattering his social circles to destroy a phedophile .

Two major attitude i have observed , the ones who stick with the preserving cool image and the ones truly does not see it as an issue and take their place in the “ pecking “ group. “ peckers “ are mostly more accepted as dominant males . They are not exceptions and it may happen to them anytime .. but they dont think about that so much . I have seen one of that types breakedown too.

It is extremely hard to make men stand up for themselves and for their rights .

Den_the_God-King · 2023-05-31T18:50:04+00:00

You can lose your job and your freedom for standing up, it sucks but that’s what men will have to do.

PrimeWolf88 · 2023-05-31T19:19:49+00:00

I'm so glad I don't have to put up with this crap (I'm gay). Modern women are trash and dating for you lot looks like a pointless exercise in how much you're willing to give up for as small a benefit as possible.

AdIllustrious6191 · 2023-05-31T20:39:23+00:00

Most men just want to get laid, so they play the "feminist ally" role.

mrID007 · 2023-05-31T18:44:09+00:00

We are, by opting out.

AvailableCandidate89 · 2023-06-01T00:18:14+00:00

What do you expect men to do? We get ignored and dismissed by every institution, our own government included.

In many states, simply calling the police on an issue involving a woman guarantee's the man gets arrested. It's called the Duluth Model.

Men don't speak up for very good reason. It's normally their lives at risk, as opposed to feminists who speak up for women's issues who are only risking their time being wasted.

g1455ofwater · 2023-06-01T01:26:58+00:00

Outgroup bias + feminists taking advantage of outgroup bias.

I have no idea how to break this hold, there are precious few men that understand this and try to balance it out. For most men even when they come to understand this they still go along with it. So you end up with 90% of the population that think women deserve a double standard where they are treated special and men are treated as a lower class.

abramN · 2023-06-01T02:54:55+00:00

We need to watch out for each other. Advocate on another man's behalf if you see if him being treated unjustly, if you don't who will?

Darlingtonlad · 2023-05-31T15:49:04+00:00

Nothing will Change in our lifetime buddy.

-Blueberry-1 · 2023-06-01T00:29:41+00:00

A reason I like to this is the case is because nobody cares what men has to say. So therefore the majority of us just stay silent and go with the flow.

Title	Why aren’t more men standing up
Author	tysongalaxy
Upvotes	232
Comments	68
Date	May 31, 2023 5:33 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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