How do y'all feel about podcasts like "Whatever" and "Fresh and Fit"?

SunshineSundress · 2023-06-01T20:14:40+00:00

Not a fan. They show a very rudimentary understanding of TRP theory and are very clearly in the anger phase still. A lot of the things they say contradict or fail to fully grasp the concepts that the OG TRP writers like Whisper, Archwinger, HSP, and VasiliyZaitzev wrote about at length. I disregard them and the rage-bait they’re generating 🤷‍♀️

While most women hate hearing anything on the men’s side of RP (understandable), if you do find benefit from it like I did, I’d recommend you to check out the r/TheRedPill sidebar instead. Get it from the source instead of renditions from people who played a bad game of telephone.

astral1 · 2023-06-01T19:49:12+00:00

Fresh and fit are lowering guys stock across the board. From what I can tell only a very few guys even like them unironically. To me they are just like Andrew Tate without any reticence. They reinforce the stereotype of toxic male traits. I only watched them a few times because the format was sort of creative and new. (‘actually talking to women while talking about them). But then I realized they were just using them for clicks. It’s a highly dramatic youtube channel so it gets covered by a lot of YouTubers and media though. The best thing they do is provide a clear example of how NOT to be. I feel like they half know this and embrace the cringe because it’s profitable to be sensationally toxic.

diaryofalostgirl · 2023-06-01T21:04:06+00:00

Speaking diplomatically: they're provocative.

Speaking charitably: they want to explore controversial topics.

Shooting from the hip: they're an excuse to promote the opinions of anger-phase RP men at the expense of young dumb twentysomethings.

ygfam · 2023-06-01T19:30:27+00:00

they're terrible and are very hypocritical

CauliflowerElegant76 · 2023-06-01T19:51:15+00:00

I watched the past two episodes of Whatever because Bernadine Bluntly was on the panel. She’s a pretty trad/Christian dating-marriage coach, her IG is @fearless.femininity. The first episode wasn’t bad and she made some good points about marriage and why our society needs to work on valuing marriage more. She got emotional and cried when talking about her marriage, it was wonderful to watch. Unfortunately the host Brian is an icky red pill guy. He basically shut down all her points and said marriage is too risky and he wouldn’t get married.

The second episode was horrible. The whole panel was porn stars and OF girls other than Bernadine. She looked visibly uncomfortable. Then Brian called her out in a disrespectful way to stop tapping her fingers and making faces. She got up and left. After she left, he called her a bible thumper and was super disrespectful.

The hosts of these shows are insecure, butthurt men who purposely invite trashy women to their show to make a point. They just want views and for their incel audience to look at these hoes and think every woman acts and thinks like they do.

They’re profiting off weak men who want to believe all women are evil. They’re also spreading toxic ideas like one-sided open relationships, racking high body count as a man, avoiding commitment and marriage. Watching these men makes me cringe.

Idk about fresh and fit but I’ve heard it’s even worse. Recently watched a clip where one of the guys says men need to sleep with 50 women before even considering marriage. Clown activities.

anothergoodbook · 2023-06-01T22:15:08+00:00

I hate Fresh and Fit. Absolutely detest it. My husband listens and while he says he doesn’t agree I can see the attitudes rubbing off on him. Its for men who want to screw around and get as many women as possible. Fine if that’s someone’s idea of high value, but no thanks. Little boys trying to be men is all it is to me.

saddensgirl · 2023-06-01T23:19:56+00:00

I've only seen clips of the Whatever podcast. And out of all of them, the only person who seems reasonable to me has been Chase. Justin Waller is a narcissist. And the rest of them seem to be more about demeaning women to boost their ego rather than having any meaningful dialogue.

TheBunk_TB · 2023-06-01T22:44:33+00:00

Using outliers as examples of a mean is mostly dishonest from an intellectual perspective. It helps deter people on both sides of the relationship struggles

JackJaminson · 2023-06-02T07:10:45+00:00

Meatheads and Only Fans Strippers.

Probably the worst sample of humanity you could take without going to a prison.

TheBunk_TB · 2023-06-01T19:35:52+00:00

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Crazy-Vast-7948 · 2023-06-02T18:18:32+00:00

It's revenge porn. They pay women to come in so that they can "own them". They select for women who love money and don't mind slightly debasing themselves for it. They all fit a look. They usually want to get clout on social media for their appearance as well.

DistributionAntique · 2023-06-03T14:54:12+00:00

FnF are just clowns. Especially Myron who’s the biggest one. They might get their channel banned because of Myron’s unhinged actions the other day. That was quite the meltdown what he did on Sneako’s stream. Yikes!!!

Wife_and_Mama · 2023-06-01T18:58:17+00:00

My husband listens to the Whatever podcast and just rolls his eyes at the RP stereotypes. If you can compartmentalize, there's nothing wrong with consuming media from different perspectives. You acknowledge that you're not able to do that, though, so you might be right to steer clear.

spicysenor · 2023-06-01T20:39:39+00:00

I enjoy hearing the weird perspectives and opinions. Most of it is pretty pedestrian on its own but it’s interesting to see how far some people go in certain directions. The “Whatever” host comes off as kind of a beta/soy boy/Incel type from the little I’ve watched. But the guests are usually entertaining.

SorenMichael · 2023-06-02T00:04:36+00:00

Don’t waste time watching these shows, it’s getting really cringy and repetitive and also there is no benefit in listening to those female’s opinions on the panel unless you wanna be entertained by their nasty experiences and delusional 8th grader mindset.

VentHere · 2023-06-02T00:03:57+00:00

You will be hard pressed to find mens content that actually saves men more than F&F. Despite how people feel about them, they get more men saying that their content has saved their lives.

Whatever Podcast is a clone. However, I understand that after time fruit can come from a tree planted in the shade.

I say this after having 3 men in my life kill themselves. And taking a deep dive into what factors led them there. On a side note, all 3 came from a single mother house hold and died before 25.

Younglustfullearner · 2023-06-01T19:45:01+00:00

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AutoModerator · 2023-06-01T18:43:11+00:00

Title: How do y'all feel about podcasts like "Whatever" and "Fresh and Fit"?

Full text: I started getting into them a couple months back purely because I found it entertaining. But as some of the podcasts grow and have these "alpha" red-pilled guests on the show setting some really poor examples for men and women. I've found myself questioning if I should ever be watching this sort of content.

I'm highly impressionable and sometimes I'm worried I take sides of people who appear to know what they're talking about and be extremely confident in their views.

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ShityistDisciple · 2023-06-03T04:31:15+00:00

Whatever is ok they give women time to talk and hear out ideas. Fresh and fit don't give women respect, time to talk, an intellectual respectfully place to hear out ideas, also fresh and fit is really socially awkward.

WonderWomanxoxo · 2023-06-03T11:04:40+00:00

Anyone watch pearl from justpearlythings? Sounds like if yall don't like fnf then you also wouldn't like her bc she is in agreement with most of their points and opnions.

I PERSONALLY don't mind fnf. They are educating women in some standpoints but I do agree they are all stuck in Redpill rage and probably won't ever graduate lol

somcool150795 · 2023-06-05T16:49:02+00:00

If you watch their clips, they will come off as misoginysts. If you want to make an opinion of them, watch the full thing. Same principle with Tate videos.

Funny_Garage3895 · 2023-06-21T08:27:07+00:00

Partner and I watch these

F+F as mentioned seem angry and not like modern women at all. We watch this solely to listen to some of the funny / contradictory stuff the women say

The other is Just Pearly Things which is more friendly and has a women presenter with male and female guests / straight and Bi and Gay sometimes. It's more relaxed, actual conversation rather than shouting or speaking over eachother.

I would rather listen to Andrew Tate rather than F+F though I havent watched his podcasts outside of F+F

mszipporah · 2023-06-21T10:34:10+00:00

All the same to me. I just make sure I reference the Bible first

EveryOlive4333 · 2023-07-19T02:36:56+00:00

love it

Title	How do y'all feel about podcasts like "Whatever" and "Fresh and Fit"?
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Date	June 1, 2023 6:43 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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