Online misogyny is the product of a closed social ecosystem. Thoughts?

LeeroyX · 2023-07-14T01:07:13+00:00

😂

“Nerdy, “very online” women, particularly weeaboos and gamers, are more promiscuous than normal women”

Absolutely! Nothing defines out of control sex kitten quite like a gamer women glued to her computer on Saturday night for a WoW raid. Bloody harlots every damn one of them….

Busy_Ant_8160 · 2023-07-14T00:06:11+00:00

Nerdy, "very online" women, particularly weeaboos and gamers, are more promiscuous than normal women: more "kinky", more liberal, more sexually open, more likely to take up sex work etc. The cosplayer to OF/SW pipeline isn't even a new thing. It was huge back in the late 00s too.

Dude, I'm a guy, but you need to assign some more accountability to the nerdy men here.

The average nerdy woman is just that, average. The ones at the top with the faces, bodies, and openness to SW are going to capitalize on their attractiveness by doing OF/SW.

The foolish simps who pay these girls while apparently one-hand typing misogynistic comments can touch grass, but they choose not to. It's not anyone's fault but their own if they only interact with a subset of women that give them a warped view of the world.

Unnecessary-Training · 2023-07-13T22:50:16+00:00

It's not 'nerdy' women. It's porn. The only women most manospherians see are those in porn. That's where all their archetypes come from.

DoinIt989 · 2023-07-13T22:42:31+00:00

Nerdy men aren't really the "online misogyny" people anymore. That was true 10 years ago when fewer people were online. Today, a lot of the misogyny you see online comes from bitter Middle aged men, heavy "divorced guy" energy.

MyUpSeemsDown · 2023-07-13T23:35:21+00:00

Online misogyny stems from mainly the fact that chronically online men usually have next to 0 experience with women which grows their dissatisfaction and questions as to why, which leads to some sort of abstractedly or articulated negative feelings about women based on what they see on internet.

It's like they got the question "why can't I get any attention from women?" And then they get hit with egirls simping over some 15/10 chad on some Tiktok or Youtube short and assume that it's because they aren't as good looking leading to conclusion that women are superficial. Obviously, they are completely ignoring or even just oblivious to the fact that there's outside and most day to day women they come across have nothing to do with few algorithmically selected videos that's been raw dogging their psyche for last 5 years.

Inevitable-Dog9120 · 2023-07-13T22:48:51+00:00

What do we even define as misogyny? Do we define it as a voicing of discontent/dislike for the current state of women? Or are we defining it as something else that is more extreme and linked more intrinsically to the "essence" of what women are? You can be critical of the attributes that modernity has adorned women with without actually hating women.

AlmostKindaGreat · 2023-07-13T23:29:18+00:00

I'd agree that misogyny is propagated and amplified by a closed social ecosystem but not necessarily created by it.

I believe that seduction communities and Red Pill are an attempt to explain the disconnect between mainstream advice about what women want vs. what they actually want. Some started with better intentions than others, but inevitably it devolves into obsession with fucking as many women as possible and becomes more and more misogynistic over time.

Unfortunately rage and self-righteous posturing gets attention and clicks so the worse a community is the more popular it is, at least for topics that are inherently sensitive and strike at the heart of our identities. It's like cable news. It's a race to the bottom to serve up the most outrage.

diaryofalostgirl · 2023-07-13T21:49:22+00:00

This is a very Gen Z/young millennial view. Elder millennials and up actually tend to be well-adjusted.

totallyworkinghere · 2023-07-13T22:00:59+00:00

This really feels like you're saying nerdy and/or promiscuous women do deserve hatred tbh

___quail · 2023-07-13T23:44:48+00:00

I disagree. I work in a field that is primarily filled with women and all of the same things you hear online (a guy needs to be 6’, have a 6 figure income, 6 pack, etc.) are all said in real life too. Hell some of the women I work with have mentioned having an OF in passing.

I think if technology has played any role, it’s the fact it’s made the world a lot smaller than it used to be. And with that, media is not the only thing that gets shared well beyond it’s original geographic location. Values from one area move to another extremely rapidly. Areas that used to be seen as socially conservative aren’t anymore. Perhaps they’re not as radical as other areas where the modern day morals we find ourselves with originated from, but societal expectations are largely nationwide instead of varying from one region to another.

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KeyAcan · 2023-07-14T00:46:45+00:00

My thoughts are you need a TL DR

Warm_Gur8832 · 2023-07-14T01:07:33+00:00

Eh I think this is correct but for the wrong reason.

I think the biggest problem is that men/women will read the worst posts by the worst people about how they should all die in a fire and, because those posts are often engaged with 500,000 times (precisely due to the fact that most people find them appalling), hateful things will simply get more traction on the Internet than kind ones

It’s basically the same as anything else wrong with the internet

DapperDan1929 · 2023-07-14T05:05:03+00:00

Agreed. I don’t hear anyone use Reddit lingo outside of Reddit

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-07-14T07:18:18+00:00

The growth and developing popularity of online misogyny, be that in the form of content creation (manosphere podcasts, personalities blogs etc) and consumption is the result of the terminally online interacting with the opposite sex of the terminally online, and usually only them.

I'd say it stems from the terminally online not interacting with women in general, and basing their worldview on things they're heard/read about women from other, most likely also terminally online guys, paired with their experiences with girls back in school, which is probably the only environment where they've had more frequent interactions with the opposite sex.

It also feels like you're implying that these dudes are misogynistic because of nerdy women, and the rest of us are unfairly catching heat, whereas the supposedly promiscuous women somehow deserve it. I think that this isn't what you were going for but it does come off a bit weird.

Some dudes being shitty to women isn't a new thing, the Internet is just a new medium they use to express said shittiness.

Title	Online misogyny is the product of a closed social ecosystem. Thoughts?
Author	MountainDangerous404
Upvotes	5
Comments	44
Date	July 13, 2023 8:17 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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