I dont want to take the red pill, but its hard finding a reason not to.

CrimsonMoonz · 2023-08-11T01:32:36+00:00

I know it's hard my dude, but you just gotta let go of the fantasy world that we grew up thinking existed.

It is the male equivalent to the female Disney princess fantasy. They believe that prince charming is going to sweep them off their feet. We believe the princess will be in this castle.

Social media destroyed a lot of moral foundations that built our society. Find a girl that isn't absorbed by it, and you're off to a good start...if only it were that easy.

Sea-Mission-6316 · 2023-08-11T02:11:00+00:00

I'm an older guy. They are "almost" all the same. There are a very few unicorns out there. However, you probably have a better chance of finding bigfoot than finding one of those unicorns that isn't already locked down by a guy. Even the unicorns will consistently shite test you and make you maintain your edge. Who the heck wants to deal with that for 50 years?

Peace and being able to do what you want to do, when you want to do it is priceless. Stay single. Make money while you are young and invest it. Then, get out of the rat race as soon as you can and live the way you want to live. No boss. No whiney woman trying to spend you into the poor house. No buying worthless crap that you don't even want to impress people you don't even like. Get F U money and go for a hike on a Monday morning while the wage slaves are stressing about going to work. Marriage and long term relationships will keep you a slave.

Insnspst · 2023-08-11T10:00:34+00:00

I can relate with your post. And I feel similar.
What I have been wondering about is if self fulfilling prophecy is playing a role here.
Because we have taken the red pill we behave in a certain way, and in a way we expect that we can not rely on them. That they will be unfaithful. But maybe because of this, it might enforce or encourage them in a way to act this way.
Just thinking out loud.

In the end everyone is your mirror,
you behave in a certain way around certain people. That's also how people act around you.
That also explains why frame is so imporant.

I'm getting older and all of my friends are settling down, having kids, building a family.
I'm the only single here, I have lived by the TRP rules, before I wasn't good around girls. Now I have had multiple plates most of them eager to start an LTR. But I wasn't interested because I wanted to live the TRP live. I did not want to get hurt again. Now I have come to a point that I lost interest in girls. But also losing interest in other things.
I'm feeling I'm missing something, is it a family, a community, belonging. I don't know.
Sometimes I wish I didn't take TRP-theories so strict. I had some nice girls where in hindsight I would have liked to start a serious relationship with. But on the other hand, I also have friends who would like to be in my position. Free without children.
The grass is always greener on the other side

tropicsGold · 2023-08-11T14:52:12+00:00

The thing many RP men are missing is the role of male leadership in relationships, this is the heart and soul of RP thinking.

RP is not about blaming women, it is about explaining and understanding. RP teaches that Women tend towards instability, weakness, emotional, chaos. Men are supposed to supply the strength, foundation, the fidelity, stability, a “mission” in life. Typically raising a family.

When women are weak, it is because they are lacking a HSV male supplying her with the leadership that she needs and indeed craves. A man who can supply that power and leadership will find it easy to partner with a great woman who will adore and follow his lead.

But if the man fails in his role, gets weak, and fails to provide leadership, the women will lose attraction and respect, and soon the failed shit tests will result in her abandoning his leadership and reverting to chaos emotions and infidelity.

The problem I see in society is a shortage of strong men providing confident, competent leadership. Half the men out there are fat, weak, and lazy, no woman is going to follow a physically weak man. The other half are intellectually or morally weak, either idiots who just lack competence, or are self indulgent fuck boys who can’t be trusted.

The men who supply the strength, competence, and fidelity, who supply true and trustworthy leadership, have women fighting over them. These women will never cheat, they will truly do anything for such a man.

ajonelag · 2023-08-11T01:35:41+00:00

Read the sidebar. AWALT. The reasonings: cock carousel, the wall, hypergamy, and many more. More precisely, all women are capable of exhibiting “those” characteristics. You need to maintain frame, keep your SMV high, etc to counteract that inevitable force. If they still drift towards those behaviors move on to the next and don’t get oneitis.

It seems simple saying these things but you need to experience more. Keep these principles in mind as you learn for yourself and internalize what we’ve said on here for years. You’ll take the pill eventually.

Huge_List285 · 2023-08-11T02:51:29+00:00

It’s a bitter pill, but it’s true and it’s life. This is also quite possibly the worst time in human history for a man to attempt LTR/Marriage. Someone else said it, but Social Media ruined whatever unicorns are out there. Dating apps are just an extension, but really it’s all a dating app. All women think they are the shit now, and a man can’t even have a public opinion. These are shite times to dream of partnership.

neverendingplush · 2023-08-11T04:09:21+00:00

What's your point. There's good women, there's bad women. Don't get sucked into the rhetoric thst back in the day women were like this. Everyone lives in their own microcosm of experiences with different context and perspectives . The redpill can be toxic af if u can't read between the lines and take everything as law.

kvakerok · 2023-08-11T17:06:06+00:00

Where are the good women?

Basically you need to find women that are completely unplugged from the socials and mass media or are on a strict "internet diet".

I would say a flip-phone is a good sign.

Today i just found out im the side piece. Im not hurt in the slightest, and im def finna at least try to hit before cutting her off.

Don't cut her off. Keep her as a side piece for them dry spells.

Welcome to the age of hoes bruh. Ain't nothing we can do about it.

But still though, my point is even the sweetest most innocent girls these days turn out to be damn near evil.

Your momma raised you right. But women with morals in this day and age are extremely hard to find. Even the church-going, allegedly God-fearing women often hoe up big time when it's not Sunday.

ultrasuperthrowaway · 2023-08-11T01:58:28+00:00

Fear it, run from it, red pill comes all the same.

Wretched-Man-I-Am · 2023-08-11T04:11:53+00:00

Here’s a reason to at least be weary of all red pill philosophy.

Over time if you aren’t carful, red pill can cause you to generalize women and dehumanize them.

Also, at a lot of red pill philosophy’s core is just plain and simple manipulation tactics on how to control women and string them along.

I think a lot of red pill philosophy is true and useful but it needs to be taken with a grain of salt because, like all philosophies created by man, they have flaws. You need to be aware of this because even if 80% of what you read is true (and this is being very generous), 20% is false and will lead you down the wrong path.

kclanton80 · 2023-08-11T20:58:08+00:00

Hypergamy is definitely in overdrive and honestly......it's women's natural state. We can blame social media... We can blame feminism. Honestly though.... Those things just set them free.

Monogamy and committed relationships were all a construct, and women are now abandoning them. They will continue to sleep with many men until the wall approaches and it's time to cash out with whatever they can secure.

Take Silas in the fact that you are attractive enough for a girl to slip her number to you at work to get smashed. It's much worse for the guys who are on the lower end of the totem pole.

The red pill is merely the truth..... It's completely up to you what you do with that truth.. be a monk... Try and find a good girl..... Spin plates. It's totally up to you. At least you go into every situation now with your eyes wide open though.

You should have a firm idea of what is really happening out there.

--ROCKSTAR-- · 2023-08-11T05:55:34+00:00

This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth – nothing more.

There's a reason this community is called The Red Pill. Its time to wake up dude. As someone else said they are almost all the same.

You're in federal prison, you gonna join a gang or go it alone?

Sympraxis · 2023-08-11T12:22:59+00:00

Don't get the idea that all women are raging sluts looking around for the nearest alpha. There are a lot of women that take chastity seriously and others that are cautious who they sleep with. If all women were as promiscuous as RP makes them out to be, VD would be far more prevalent than it is. Also, young people nowadays are considerably less promiscuous than they were 20 or 30 years ago.

RP is not about slutifying all women, it is about being realistic and objectively understanding how women think about men and how women actually behave. The more realistic your viewpoint, the greater success you will have with women. There is a big difference between what women say and what they do and RP is partially about analyzing and understanding that difference.

Duemkush · 2023-08-11T01:37:08+00:00

Today i just found out im the side piece. Im not hurt in the slightest, and im def finna at least try to hit before cutting her off.

Where are the good men?

Arent you part of the problem? The girl is 100% responsible for her cheating, but you have you part in this. She would find it hard to cheat if most men had values and wouldnt fuck her at the slightest smell of pussy. Morals have gone down in society as a whole. Social media is way too big, young people chasing money at the cost of their dignity. Why do you think all these onlyfans girls make bank? Its because of all the desperate guys throwing money at them.

Guys too are lowering in value, dont lower yourself to society's shit standard. You know the red pill, so you can be the best man you can while protecting yourself from all the bullshit that comes with women.

DryConclusion5260 · 2023-08-11T07:56:39+00:00

I went through that same phase of discouragement personally me i dont hate woman or blame them for anything but i dont think I’ll ever plan on marrying or having kids i thought church girls would be different but boy was i wrong for me that was the point where i gave up the fantasy and just accepted to spin plates until im to old and i’d have to hang up the jersey it wont be your first or last time getting hit on by woman in relationships dont get me started on the woman who post long paragraphs on social media about there beloved husband and claim to have found there soul mate cause the night before she was begging me to rock her world 😂😂😂

aberamax · 2023-08-11T15:24:38+00:00

You swallowed redpill because a girl wants to fuck with you.

Now, imagine how many redpills ugly men swallow daily without getting laid.

And imagine that in this process the same "innocent" girls tell them "it's because of your personality". Whatever fucking thing this means.

Dueeed · 2023-08-11T17:12:57+00:00

“Not looking for a relationship or anything but fuck it she got a lil sum sum back there.” This is the root of your misunderstandings. You’re a walking contradiction (with all due respect). If you’re looking for a good girl, you should have the proper standards to fit that outlook.

kassrot · 2023-08-11T19:50:10+00:00

I would say taking half the red pill isn't worth it. If you're not familiar, there's something called the black pill, which is mostly negative doomer talk. If you take half the pill you might end up there.

I strongly recommend following Ryan Stone's work on YouTube. There is a playlist called The Red pill sidebar. Before watching the sidebar you need to begin prerequisite materials.

Get Audible and listen to the book "No More Mr Nice Guy". Every man should listen to this book I don't care if he wants to be red pill, it's that good.

This is a good starting point. After finishing the book just finished the sidebar series.

Honestly the point of the red pill is so you don't get gaslighted or manipulated into living a life you don't want. There is no substitute for awareness and critical thinking. You got to figure out what you want out of life and move towards it. The red pill offers many tools to help, but if it doesn't help you, then it won't do you any good.

I come from a Christian conservative background and I would have been married to a lunatic with two kids that aren't mine because "I felt it was the right thing to do". In that regarded it saved me

I also was in a long-term relationship with a very nice girl but due to me following "scripts" and poorly optimized mental models as a substitute for thinking, feeling and living - I drove her away. I used the wrong material, in the wrong situation, and got poor results.

The red pill is nothing but tools. You got to do the work and there is no shortcuts.

intelligentlemanager · 2023-08-11T05:19:44+00:00

Don't despair my dude. There are better women (still not unicorns) in other friend groups, companies and geographical areas. Roll the dice again.

chibiwong · 2023-08-11T11:52:25+00:00

I am in my 50s now and always followed "just be yourself" and all is done is make me a virgin this long..

I don't even know where to begin. It's hard to "fake" being someone that you're not just for the sake of getting pussy..... It's not right

Current-Ticket4214 · 2023-08-11T14:33:47+00:00

You admit that your observations prove red pill doctrine to be true, but you still refuse to accept it. There isn’t much we can do. You’ll suffer until you figure it out on your own.

Makakka2002 · 2023-08-11T06:19:19+00:00

Well yesterday I had 2 american women in the train behind me chatting I’m located in central europe. That bratty entitled nasal sound both giving was stunning that is a kind of sound i never heard of non-anglospherian women. Now I understand redpill and mgtow were created in the US. Could be that they are from one of the coasts and in Texas for example it’s different but boy that was a shocker and I am very happy not having to deal with these women.

jxjkskkk · 2023-08-11T02:12:18+00:00

Stopped reading when you said you were 20 and implied that you have a wealth of experience.

What you need to do is read the sidebar and slowly start integrating changes into your own life, taking focus off of women. Then live your life and gain experiences.

SugarDaddyVA · 2023-08-11T14:05:09+00:00

Relax dude. You’re 19. Women your age aren’t even people yet. Neither are you. You got plenty of time.

Signed: Guy married 17 years to a smoking hot wife who’s a stay at home Mom to my 2 kids.

donaldcargill · 2023-08-11T02:15:07+00:00

It's hard to accept these truths and let go of what you were told but those old ideas will only hinder you trust me I tried for a long time. Their are no "good girls" go through the side bar and read practical female psychology by Franco it will help you.

TheOriginalBigApp · 2023-08-11T02:17:25+00:00

Get fucked over enough times, it’s not a hard decision at all

Red_HoVa_PiLL · 2023-08-11T17:35:44+00:00

I'm about 20 years older than you, but if you were my younger brother, I'd want you to accept it. It will make things much clearer and easier for you down the road, spare you pain and give you vision. So please young man, Accept the truth.

redpillmonseur · 2023-08-12T09:22:25+00:00

The red pill forces men to accept hard truths about the harsh reality of life. It doesn't necessarily say ignore your feelings, if anything, your gut feeling is and indicator. And the good girl trope has been used to trap men for mellania. You have to accept that there is NO good girl, all females are hypergamous, understand and work with Brifaults law. Spin plates, focus on your mission and enjoy life.

GWARY54 · 2023-08-13T05:05:55+00:00

I understand your struggle, but at the same time, you are 20. Why do you want a “quality” woman or “marriage material”? Spin plates, have fun, make mistakes, wrap up every time. Dating gets better in the 25-40 range

motobuke · 2023-08-13T18:40:27+00:00

As a woman, I agree. I limited my friends because a lot of women, maybe 90% of them are constantly searching for male validation. Women thrive of pleasing men. To the point they will go dressed up with their bits out just for a hookup or a free drink. They think posting themselves half naked is acceptable and ‘empowering’ and are generally quite annoying. I am the said ‘pick me’ because I oppose to all of their worldly idealistic views. But no, I just have morals and modesty which most women clearly lack. But good news, there are some lovely women out there still left, but on the other hard they’re mostly found within certain faiths. 😂good luck regardless.

nookpimp · 2023-08-12T04:12:24+00:00

You’re twenty. Have fun. Don’t settle yet. Everyone is trying to explore and figure their shit out. There’s nothing wrong with being a “whore” male or female. Maybe she’ll see something in you and maybe she won’t. Just a trial and error process not meant to be easy.

EricInOverwatch · 2023-08-11T19:51:27+00:00

The red pill is simply objective truths about men and women. That's it. If you want to believe in Disneyland fairytales, then remain blue pilled and ignorant. If you're willing to accept the reality for what it is, than take the red pill.

sawyer94117 · 2023-08-13T17:41:44+00:00

You don't have to, but why not have that tool in your toolbox?

Otherwise you're saying you basically wish for delusion.

Lemongrasschan · 2023-08-14T22:05:06+00:00

So you know she has a partner but you are still gonna try to hit it? Bruv you are part of the problem.

qunamax · 2023-08-17T07:57:53+00:00

There were none to begin with. There were just girls that had limited access, their limited social circle. Party girls had a broader social circle and we used to call them hoes. Now, there are social networks, cheap flights, fast cars and trains, the world is their playground and they all want to "visit Dubai" before the wall hits and when it hits they want a reset with even heavier makeup, more gym and surgeries. You want to play a game that doesn't exist anymore. Don't, you'll only get hurt. Do what everyone does, fuck around until you get bored and old.

Title	I dont want to take the red pill, but its hard finding a reason not to.
Author	i_luv_labradoodles
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Date	August 11, 2023 12:49 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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