I want to know why some of you are MGTOW

Asatmaya · 2023-08-17T18:02:13+00:00

"MGTOW," is, "Men Going Their Own Way," not, "Men Following Some Other A-hole." MFSOA are the ones who should have to explain themselves.

MGTOW is not a group, it's not even a philosophy, it's just the position that, "Whatever is happening here and now is not working for me, so I'm going to go do my own thing until it either it changes or I do."

I don't even generally use the term as a self-descriptor, despite the fact that it is talking about me; I have grown children, but I have been single for 15 years, and other than a couple of flings with high school girlfriends, have not so much as dated in that time.

Instead, I work, I study, I write, I design, I play, I think, I hike, I ride motorcycles, I do all the things that I always wanted to do my whole life but couldn't because my time belonged to someone else; parents, teachers, wife, kids.

If a woman wants to join me in those things, that would be great! But I haven't met one, yet, who doesn't think that her plans and ideas come first, and my own are a waste of time that could be better spent on her.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to go finish building my new work shed :)

Dunkman83 · 2023-08-17T23:04:31+00:00

if i spend all my time at work, i get a bigger paycheck

if i spend all my time at the gym, i will get in better shape.

if i spend my time traveling, i get new experiences that last a life time.

if i spend all my time and energy dating, i get??????????????????????????????

biscuitcatapult · 2023-08-17T18:00:14+00:00

It is a matter of effort vs reward. I never get as much as I give when it comes to women, so it is just not worth it for me.

I am happy with everything I have in life, and everything that I “need” I can provide for myself or get readily easily without having to be in a relationship.

LazerDaighzer · 2023-08-17T19:31:34+00:00

Family court rape and children weaponized to syphon my recourses and feeding lawyers (brood parasites)children.

maxjosephwheeler · 2023-08-17T20:05:36+00:00

For survival.

Felarhin · 2023-08-17T21:19:26+00:00

I refuse to make my life revolve around people who would never lift a finger for me.

Pablo_the_cat · 2023-08-17T21:41:03+00:00

The odds are staggeringly against me on the dating market and being around certain women is just a danger to my existence and hence it's best to keep that at a minimum. It's just logical thinking and estimate.

KrazyJazz · 2023-08-17T18:30:12+00:00

Being treated by the sugar-and-spice-and-everything-nice empathic sex like nothing but an expandable commodity over and over again.

Do something right? "It's your job! That's what men are supposed to do". Do something considered wrong? "It's your fault! Men ain't shit!". Enough.

CaptMixTape · 2023-08-17T23:35:03+00:00

Simple answer, it makes life so much simpler and easy.

Intelligent-Term · 2023-08-17T17:54:49+00:00

I am like 95% MGTOW. For reasons that I'm older, that I got horribly divorce raped, that I had a sugar baby for 8 years after my failed marriage and got the sex out of my system.

I will never completely close the door on a serious relationship, but never marriage and kids again. That's why I say I'm 95% MGTOW. But because I am not even trying to date or find anyone, it's highly unlikely that I will ever be in another relationship unless it's another sugar baby thing.

I still hold doors open for women. But I do it for men too. I smile at women. I talk to them when I need to. But I'm careful to not let their flirtations tempt me.

But I tell most young men I see my story and I tell them don't get married and have kids. But only if the subject comes up.

I don't hate women. I'm not black pilled. But it's clear that things are broken.

fl_lckit · 2023-08-17T20:48:24+00:00

The juice is no longer worth the squeeze in my mid 30's when the prize is usually an obese debt stricken woman with mental health problems who has a triple digit n count and brings nothing to the table except for another man's child, and maybe an std or several of each. Who would want to date these type of women in this type of environment? A more appropriate question would be why aren't you MGTOW?

Allnutsz · 2023-08-17T20:09:41+00:00

I dislike going out (bars/clubs), dating apps are a bust. So MGTOW is my only option.

GanryuZT · 2023-08-17T22:14:07+00:00

I like being on my own. I see couples around me and they don't make me wish I have a girlfriend/wife. I see movies/tv series where there's a dad character, and always I feel suffocated just by imagining being in their shoes.

griii2 · 2023-08-17T23:34:27+00:00

I wonder what percentage of the people on this sub are MGTOW and what percentage are just for better gender equality and Men's Rights.

MeisterMGTOW · 2023-08-18T08:05:50+00:00

I've always been MGTOW. I was more or less born that way.

vanislandbroyo · 2023-08-18T00:15:14+00:00

I had to google this and the first result was Wikipedia and it saying how MGTOW is an anti-feminist AND misogynistic mostly-online community. After some thought, this seems to be written by a feminist. Because hating feminism makes you misogynistic lolol, what the fuck ever. When women say they don't need men it's empowering but when men do it they're misogynistic, fucking grow up you fucking idiots.

SgtSplacker · 2023-08-17T21:44:21+00:00

I am not aware of any relationship that does not have a transactional element to it. It's all about what you can produce and provide. On top of that men are being treated even worse now than before. The contempt for men is out in the open, it's in style now. Yet somehow we are supposed to be privileged. The most virtuous way to handle this is to simply turn around and walk. Do not accept the deal most offer. Most relationships are not worth it.

obi2kanobi · 2023-08-17T17:47:29+00:00

i'm not MGTOW per se but i might as well be. constantly being ghosted or flaked on. being unknowingly used as a free meal (only a few times). way too risky nowadays to risk half your assets and be forced to sell your house or forced in to decades of alimony. i've reached the point now to where i could definitely be a target to a woman who wanted to cash in. not worth it.

JeffyFan10 · 2023-08-18T01:33:53+00:00

I find interacting with women much like babysitting children.

They want to talk about nonsense, stare at their phones, gossip, and feel entitled to being spoiled with money and attention -- their life goal is to post something cute on instagram. I honesty can't relate anymore.

MeToo, BLM and false sexual harassment accusations didn't help.

When I discovered MGTOW, I realized it wasn't just me who felt this way.

Mi-Infidel · 2023-08-18T11:47:18+00:00

Read the post about the guy that lost everything because of a Tinder date. She asked for "rough" sex and then she accused him of rape. One date and he was arrested, lost his high paying career and has been going through hell for a couple of years.

lumpynose · 2023-08-17T19:48:13+00:00

Not by choice, but because I'm gay. 🤪

When I read about all the crap you straight guys put up with I'm always so glad that I'm gay.

On the gay subs sometimes someone will ask what's the best part about being gay and my answer is always not having to deal with women.

ButWhatOfGlen · 2023-08-17T23:29:30+00:00

Because women aren't worth the price you pay. It's sad and I'm still attracted to them, but once burned, twice shy. 5 times burned, fuck them.

2023-08-18T20:44:05+00:00

A man on this very forum said he had all 6: A 6-pack, 6-figures, and over 6ft tall and his wife still cheated on him. (Prolly cuz she bored with her life)

What chance does us 5 guys have: $50k/yr, 5ft.9in, and a no 6 pack (a small keg)????

Prolly better to not even play the game at all.

AzLibDem · 2023-08-20T02:41:33+00:00

I'm in a great relationship, but embracing MGTOW philosophy has been a significant step in making it great.

I know I can walk away if I need to, or even want to; I know that I live well on my own, doing the things I like.

There's no dependence, no guilt feelings about what I want, no emotional manipulation, no shit tests.

ABBucsfan · 2023-08-17T20:56:25+00:00

Both religious and personal reasons. I believe marriage is for life but if one party leaves you stay single so long as they're still alive. Personally I got burned bad enough and known enough other married couples past social media to realize society understates just how badly marriage can ruin your life, it can be absolutely the worst decision you ever make. On the other hand I don't know any couples I really envy. Society completely over states the benefits of it long term. At best they work alright as a team and kinda stay out of each other's way. Sex at some point is an obligation to one of them and less regular. Dates are rare after kids. Kids are the one thing that seems to bring married people joy and I already have them. Even with that I'm seeing one kid I'm extremely concerned about and having to get psych evals and stuff. Some of that stuff is generic and another risk based on both partners genetics and divorce mess. They will absolutely try to use them to hurt you. I'm also realizing with the way h r mother sees the world and some of the stuff she pulled I'm probably fortunate I didn't get into legal trouble and possibly hurt my employability

The actual long term benefits are not a high enough payoff compared to the amount of risk you expose yourself to. That's pretty much what it boils down to. When your whole life can be so abruptly ruined you would expect the flipside to be winning the lottery

imperator285 · 2023-08-18T01:13:02+00:00

I'm short, ugly, and autistic. Why bother trying?

another-cosplaytriot · 2023-08-18T05:21:47+00:00

I just don't want to date a narcissist and I'm not gay. Therefore, this is currently the most reasonable plan.

theSilentNerd · 2023-08-18T10:10:43+00:00

I'm not sure if I can be considered mgtow, but I treat women respectfully and at a safe distance.
Knowing how dangerous things can be if you get too close to a woman or how screwed you get in a divorce I rather not date them.

Ok_Night_7767 · 2023-08-18T14:33:20+00:00

Given the current toxic social environment, a more appropriate question would be "Why aren't all men MGTOW?"

Substantial_Video560 · 2023-08-19T10:57:57+00:00

I've been gradually going MGTOW the older I've got. It's been a lifelong realisation. Made peace with being alone and found acceptance.

It's liberating to be free of expectations and social constructs i.e. relationships, marriage, kids etc

Man-splain · 2023-08-18T00:25:26+00:00

To me it's going away from the modern woman, learning what behaviors are problems, and not accepting those behaviors. It's not necessarily walking away from women totally.

https://youtu.be/pxZ-KItOCOE?sub\_confirmation=1

AdIllustrious6191 · 2023-08-18T03:00:46+00:00

Why MGTOW? Very simple: WOMEN ARE SHIT.

SouthernSeeker · 2023-08-18T00:30:15+00:00

Autism.

bezm12 · 2023-08-18T00:25:49+00:00

I live in US. So, very few of the women here even qualify to be with me. Those who do, are already with a top man.

Neusprince · 2023-08-18T01:27:29+00:00

I wouldn't say I'm MGTOW. But I'm pretty adjacent. I know he's controversial even within the community but I don't give a f$%k. I like many of Andrew Tate's philosophies. Especially the chessboard metaphor. The king moves one square at a time and that's the way I view my journey. The moment you start to focus more on the queen you risk losing the game. Most of the mistakes I made in the past and all the angst I had came from me centering which ever "queen" I was dealing with at that moment. Once I stopped that, life got simpler.

I'm not mgtow because I still deal with women. But I only deal with women who are under my frame otherwise I walk away. The only women I love are the women who love me. I leave the rest to the simps.

Inthepurple · 2023-08-18T10:02:41+00:00

Why can't you just type things out instead of using acronyms

Educational_Bet_6606 · 2023-08-18T11:07:52+00:00

Personal abuse from women and girls growing up, anti male prejudice, finances. I have women friends, but being single honestly isn't that bad.

I'll say though if you want to be married, go for it. But I'll also say that in this western world, it can be dangerous.

Educational_Bet_6606 · 2023-08-18T01:50:51+00:00

The comments make me wonder what none Christian women are like. I have only been around Christian women and none of them have this issue. I am going to college now for the first time (it is not private) and find myself startled by some women I see. It’s not the way they act really (it is not like I see them acting any way), just the way they dress. It makes me uncomfortable to see so much private area like that…

GermanKrusty · 2023-08-18T13:05:35+00:00

After an abusive relationship, I began to question the system we live in.

Why is she believed more by the cops than I am when she claims she is being beaten even though I have very visible injuries?

Why is she able to keep me in the relationship by threatening to put me in jail if I leave her, even though I have never done anything to her?

and many more questions.

In the end I came to the conclusion that I don't want all this anymore. I've been single since 2015 and I've never felt better.

I am aware that my case is very extreme and it is by far not always like this in relationships.

But if you're unlucky like me... you're completely helpless. You end up in prison.... or you die... and maybe your killer ends up being the feminist heroine who freed herself from the clutches of the evil man just because no one listened to you all these years.

Women are believed, men are suspected.

I interact with women on a polite level. But not one bit more.

Please forgive my mediocre English. This is not my native language, unfortunately.

Take care of yourselves men.

CrazyTeapot156 · 2023-08-21T03:16:20+00:00

I've been mgtow since the 2000's long before I learned it was a thing.

Top-Chart-663 · 2023-09-02T22:59:32+00:00

I was never good with women so its easy for me to focus on myself. Also have no desire to start a family.

Title	I want to know why some of you are MGTOW
Author	Guyonstockmarket
Upvotes	62
Comments	110
Date	August 17, 2023 5:35 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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