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[–]No_Air_5047 108 points109 points110 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
If she’s goes out as a friend, make sure you split the bills 50/50 haha
[–]RPslimjim 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly
[–]According-Mobile-993 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
You should be splitting the bill 50/50 regardless…….
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[–]vardarac 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If she actually likes you, she won't ask for or expect a penny.
By the same token, if I actually like her I might give of my own accord.
Anyone paying because they think they have to or that it is the proper thing to do or that they do it "because they can" has been taken advantage of
[–]vardarac 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's what I mean by "taken advantage of"
[–]MrHouseGang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ehhh. I take care of my woman
[–]MrHouseGang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmaooo. We’ve been together a year. She just ordered me a $180 hoodie. I just got her some shoes the other day. We’re best friends. Sex life is great. Everything is communicated. No pedestal in sight
[–]Beneficial-Strain-25 65 points66 points67 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She could be a wing woman. But remember friends split the bill.
[–]dopam1ne_ 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends, if you can see her as your friend then yes, you'll never have too much friends, but if your intention was go out with her as couple and you just can't get it out of your head, then...
[–]kanyesbathroommirror 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you're secure, then having a female friend has advantages: you can meet other women through her, you can learn more about how women work, and you get social proof from being seen in public with an attractive woman. Just don't ever be friends with a woman in hopes of eventually seducing her-- that reeks of desperation.
[–]Chi-Cam 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well I think the problem is a lot of guys who kinda aren’t experienced don’t know the difference between being friends with a girl. They go on “hang outs” and do everything a BF would do without sex or a physical relationship which is wrong.
[–]civemaybe 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What if I'm friends with them because I genuinely like who they are but would also genuinely jump into bed with them in a second, if they were down for it?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
dont know how to be friends with a girl who’s single tho
[–]vardarac 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just never flirt and don't ever broach the topic of sex. Make sure to vent all your deepest frustrations and entitlements.
Source: not losing my virginity until 24
[–]mysterious-puzzlebox 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I had this happen recently and went out in two “dates” with her. It’s fun being around an attractive girl that will be out with you 1:1. People assume you’re a couple and it gives you social clout with other women. I use it as practice to be around an attractive woman and dry runs as “practice dates” for women that are actually interested. My more recent one will get dinner and drinks with me 1:1. It’s sometimes confusing because she does seem to show slight interest in me but I assume she has none when we are out
[–]masmiester 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get these friends to go out wo bars and clubs with you. If you have really good female friends Getting them to act as wing women is incredibly powerful.
[–]UnknownWolf719 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The story of my life
[–]xxslaying 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make it a group thing like bring some of ur friends and have her bring some of her friends is what id do, maybe she has some hot friends and maybe she’d like to get with ur homie, idk
[–]Yes_cummander 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go out with her and hit on other girls wile your with her. Because why not
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
abundance.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She might change her mind, happened to me once. Consider a loss but still hang out with her just in case
[–]great_account 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't listen to things women say. Watch the things they do. They'll tell you they won't sleep with you, but never leave your side. They say they want to be friends and then send you flirty texts. She wants you to think she's not easy but also that she's into you. If she agrees to be alone with you, she's giving you a shot to change her mind.
[–]oceanstwelve 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
give some more information. is this first date? 2nd ? 3rd?
do you want to friendzone yourself if worst comes to worst?
if you think you did not have good opportunity yet to make your moves/ declare your attraction to her. then go out with her once.
if you fail (which can be because of any number of reasons you can look into later), just declare that you dont wanna be just friends with her and move on. that will be best for BOTH of you
DONT keep friend-dating and hope something to change one day, in her head IT WONT. at that point it will require severe effort, skill and emotional detachment.
again, if this is a great person to have in life no matter what way. then yeah go out and you think about other women for more than friends.
[–]gammaJinx 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Answer is entirely dependent on whether you think she’s attractive. Honestly if you think she’s attractive be upfront with her and tell her you don’t want to be just friends. If she says “no” then it’s simply on to the next
[–]SnooGiraffes5176 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cut your losses. You don’t want to be a friend so don’t go out as a friend. On to the next one. When she sees you with the next one she may ask herself if she made a mistake. Live rent free in her head, not the other way around. Good luck!
[–]mabden 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Use her as a pivot and/or have her introduce you to her friends.
[–]Imaginary-River136 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just don’t go out with her at all if your intention is to fuck go find someone who will
[–]Mikkster643 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bruh that is miserably sad, move on.
[–]RPslimjim -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No. Don’t agree to being friends or anything like that. She just doesn’t like you. You can force it. Next her.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's bored. You need to fight about something. Tell her that her favorite singer sucks, and don't back down. Conflict is essential if you want to get out of the friend zone.
[–]Beezus333 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hell no, check out FreshnFit on yt for reasons why
[–]JacobMoogberg69 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you didn't show up as a man and make a move?
[+]pokemonpokemonmario[🍰] -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Say you don't make friends with women and move on.
[–]EdUNC- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s over but don’t pay for anything as she might be using you. As mentioned before friends pay 50/50
[–]bloopblapbleep 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What the others are saying, split the bill
[–]ArcadeShrimp 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let her be your wingman
[–]theslyraptor 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ehh... Negativ.
[–]ManagerIllustrious72 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Say sure. Most people getting laid with minimal effort do it through friend groups, especially female friends. Social proof is probably the strongest tool you can have. Who knows, she may even fall for you if she sees how many girls want you.
Truth be told, regardless of gender, always say yes to plans at least once with a person. Becoming a "yes" person will skyrocket your social life.
[–]changthaiman 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can never have too many friends my guy. Just don’t pay for her and have fun
[–]whotfiswho_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
•Split the bill. Split the bill. SPLIT. THE. BILL. •see if you can get to know her friends – she might put you on •see if she’ll be your wing woman – she might put you on •if her actions ain’t matching her words (ie, she’s not letting you talk to other women, being too physical, crossing your boundaries), tell her to have a good night and do your own thing
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Treat her as a friend and detach from any outcome
[–]shathecomedian 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only if you think you would have fun, don’t do it for the sake of not looking like an asshole
[–]ExquisiteGrowth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wing woman wing woman wing woman. Having a female friend is extremely powerful in showing women can feel safe around you. If you believe the friendship can work then definitely do it.
[–]TheGnosionaut 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If she is suggesting the frame, it probably means that you conveyed too much interest. You don't get friendzoned for not flirting enough, you get friendzoned for being more interested in her than she is in you. (One way or another, it happened, no matter how much your ego tries to deny it) There are plenty of guys who friendzone girls and only deal with them platonically, while the girls have crushes on them.
You haven't conveyed enough value, but you did seem comfortable enough to hangout with.
What happened with this girl will happen over and over again until you master the basics.
Edit: unless you know how to reframe the interaction, going out with her on this basis pushes you further into the friendzone.
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