My theory on text game

pua_inception · 2011-09-30T17:23:58+00:00

Hey, good post. Although I think you've misunderstood the point of assume attraction. Assume attraction came up because guys look for signals or IOIs to escalate, not all girls give IOIs, sometimes by the time you get the signal it's already too late. Assume attraction means skip the attraction phase in the M3 model, and go straight to seduction.

I guarantee you if you assume attraction, and start physically escalating, and you make out with her, she'll be less likely to flake, not every guy has the balls to sexually escalate. If you don't physically escalate a girl and just keep talking, then you really haven't assumed attraction.

Paraphrasing from sixty's book:

50% of the guys are wallflowers that do nothing, 30% of guys approach and are just social, 19% of guys try to build attraction and escalate too slow and will probably get a day2, 1% of guys go in, assume attraction, get sexual right away, get a make out or have a ONS, or a day2 if logistics don't work out. You're already standing out from the rest of the guys by assuming attraction and being bold.

Ozzie talks about this as well

MoodyHank · 2011-09-30T16:25:36+00:00

Preach! This man speaks the truth! Sidebar/bestof that mofo.

InferiousX · 2011-09-30T16:44:35+00:00

I've been thinking quite a bit about texting and have come to realize that it is probably being used and abused by way too many guys, including myself.

The method of communication is probably overused for the following reasons:

It's comfortable. I could have not showered for three days and have effective conversations while laying in bed
Tied in with the above answer, it's also comfortable because I have time to think about exactly what I want to say.
Easy to hit up multiple women. Also easy to "ego-feed" in this situation. EX: "Hell yea, I'm talkin to three girls at once!" etc.

However, I've gotten to where I don't consider anythnig a success unless a lay results out of it. Everything else to me is mental masturbation at this point. So texting has to be limited by it's very nature. I dont' want a bunch of chat buddies, I want girlfriends or FBs.

Setting up a meet is crucial because with my particular style, building attraction is 1000x easier in person.

Sed5 · 2011-09-30T17:42:48+00:00

Op can you give some good examples of text game or how you keep the attraction up/banter/that ping that you used?

whatbrighteyes · 2011-09-30T18:52:45+00:00

this....makes sense. as a girl, though, reading it made me feel, I dunno, uncomfortable, I guess. its so very calculated. o_O

karlbarx · 2011-09-30T17:53:43+00:00

I agree if you use texting too much you will eventually text something you regret and have to back track. So just be aware, and don't text exactly what you're thinking.

bink1time · 2011-10-01T00:37:23+00:00

I mean sure you can build attraction over texts, I'm not doubting that I have used it to build attraction as well. The thing is most of us that are not as busy as you are. So in most cases it is better to use text game to arrange the logistics of the date because building attraction is easier in person and you can kino as well.

I'm scared that some people will use this as an example to delay asking a chick out. "Yo bro I'm just going to build attraction over text until I'm 100% sure she won't flake, this should take 2-3 weeks"

cody_au · 2011-10-01T04:59:30+00:00

The fundamentals of most everyone on r/seduction are a fucking disgrace.

Always assume attraction

Do you know what this actually means? It seems that the meaning has been lost for some people.

It came about as a thought pattern for guys who wouldn't progress dates because "they weren't getting signals", when the girl just being there is the biggest signal you can get. Also most guys will walk away saying he got no signals when it was obvious to any third party observer; it's just that their brain doesn't pick it up while they're in the moment. So you always assume attraction by their presence and still escalate whether you see the signs or not. Later on you as you get better you WILL learn to recognise the signs in person, and can use that to calibrate exactly what you're doing.

Edit: Noticed someone else also replied it was part of M3, but I'd already typed all this out so I won't remove it.

If I fail to build strong attraction when I meet an HB, I can use text game to build some additional attraction. High attraction = Low chance of flaking Remember also that women are emotional and attraction is an emotion. Emotions wear down over time.

This is pretty stupid. "I'm going to pump this chicks emotions over text, watch me!" Do you really think chicks (except maybe high school girls) are going to be emotionally attached and invested in a message? That's like saying people mean everything they say on the internet. It's a zero investment fire & forget system.

It has no impact, which is why calls are better for maintaining attraction between a long meet and date gap (which is what I used to do when I was travelling to do bootcamps and had girls waiting for me back home, there's nothing more awesome for THEM to feel special than being called from another city; not a throwaway text that you could have sent from the toilet).

Some of what you said is true, but the above stuff colours half of it in a way that doesn't sit right with me at all. Now with your lifestyle, you don't have time to call or whatever, then if you don't call I'm not going to eat you out over it. I don't care. That's totally cool with me. I'm more concerned about shithead newbs who are getting nowhere and sitting at home texting instead of calling then will go cry on r/ForeverAlone for the next month about why some bitch didn't reply.

If I met an HB8-HB10 today

On a separate note to seduction, I find this kind of rating to be extremely self serving and offensive.

2011-09-30T19:18:42+00:00

I always text between dates. I use it as a gauge of their personality. I have yet to meet a girl who was dead air over text that was more exciting in person. I have ALSO found that women are more "real" initially through text. Very crucial observation I had several weeks ago.

2011-09-30T20:55:20+00:00

In my opinion the advantage to texting is that you'll say things you normally wouldn't say, and you can come off as much more alpha because things like tone and inflection and such are basically nil.

3109 · 2011-10-01T00:05:21+00:00

I'm about to set up a Day 2 with a girl and this couldn't have come at a better time. The date would take place a few days from now so I would definitely need to rebuild attraction after the weekend. I'm thinking about texting her on monday - "Saraaah, I bet my weekend beat yours." Opinions?

cody_au · 2011-10-01T02:07:01+00:00

I generally agree with this, and it amazes me how many people discourage texting when it can be so effective at keeping things warm between a girl and yourself. One of the reasons my last girlfriend dated me was because I texted a raunchy poem I had made up about her name. Somehow, that really impressed her.

RedPosterboard · 2011-10-01T03:54:34+00:00

... not bad, good sir.

aeoz · 2011-10-01T12:41:04+00:00

Short and sweet. Bestof'd!

clutchPUA · 2011-10-13T17:45:40+00:00

I'd text for logistics only. Don't text to set up anything, call. Don't text to build attraction. Its a minefield when you text, you have a better chance of losing attraction than building it. Text at a minimum and only when you have to until you have already done a successful day 2.

Obv varies w/ different girls but...I learned it the hard way. :(

My theory on text game

1 - "Attraction wears down over time."

2 - "Built a solid attraction with HB. Date is within few days. => Text for logistics only"

3 - "Build a solid attraction with HB. Date is beyond few days. => Text to maintain attraction"

4 - "Weak attraction with HB.=> Text to build attraction"

5 - "HB or you have to reschedule date => Text to maintain attraction"

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Title	My theory on text game
Author	pua_inception
Upvotes	93
Comments	56
Date	September 30, 2011 3:55 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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