After reading "No more Mister Nice Guy".

2oosra · 2014-06-16T13:18:54+00:00

Maybe you think you are supposed to like girls, but in reality you dont really like them.

jahvoncreamcone · 2014-06-16T13:38:21+00:00

Stop masturbating. After a week or two I'm willing to bet hanging out with them will become more appealing.

ststa13 · 2014-06-16T12:27:12+00:00

I quickly stop 'chasing' or caring when I realise that they are chasing me

100x this. I have been trying for months to get past it, but it still happens every single time. Either I feel that they start moving too fast (wanting to text/hang out all the time), or that all of the mystery is gone.

Raknosha · 2014-06-16T13:09:15+00:00

You sound like, what you want is what you can't have. When they start 'chasing' you know you got it, and it stops being interesting.

The book is definently not for you. It is not a golden key to unlocking pussy, it's a selfhelp book to deal with a mindset that you don't suffer from.

Ace370 · 2014-06-16T13:01:13+00:00

This book is obviously not for you. NMMNG is all about having anxiety and dealing with the fact that you don't need to cater to others to make yourself happy. Everything that you've said here is pretty much the opposite of what's described in the first chapter or two of who should be reading that book.

There's plenty of stuff to pick up from, evem if it doesn't relate to you, but dont force yourself to read a self help book that doesn't fit with the things you need help with.

zombierapingmachine · 2014-06-16T14:47:45+00:00

Hey man, try bad girls. Not clubbers or basic bitches. But tougher girls. I am just like you. I lose interest right after I have sex with them, but if the chick is a badass with tons of confidence and an "i will kick your ass" attitude I never lose interest. That's the only thing that has worked for me, other wise I'm just apathetic to their emotions.

SirByron · 2014-06-16T13:33:31+00:00

"Getting Kills Wanting" - DeAngleo's Second Law of Attraction

Aektann · 2014-06-16T16:10:12+00:00

Apologies in advance

I'm not a 'Nice Guy'.

agumonkey · 2014-06-16T16:33:31+00:00

How boring are we all ? I'm quite curious about that.

Are some people genuinely brilliant ? or is it just the attraction in place that makes you tolerate that person because a) you get to have sensual pleasures b) not a lonely fuck anymore, affection too.

2014-06-16T13:18:18+00:00

What do you believe about yourself or about women, that makes you not want to see them under those circumstances?

WildN0X · 2014-06-16T14:08:56+00:00

The chase is always the best part, but the moment it's not required, it's so easy to sit back and watch. What you need are different people than what you're looking at currently. If you get a yes to a date and you feel internally that you really like this person, you'll be in your car driving there 20 minutes early. I never meet up with bimbos (used openly) because they are boring and uninteresting. But if I find a girl who is genuinely interesting and fun, then it makes it easier to go out on a date with them. It isn't a bad thing to say fuck it and not go, because honestly 75% of the time it's a waste if you force it.

Also I hate small talk, I'm awful with it. I usually stick to high energy females to help me come out of my shell and start talking.

yummyluckycharms · 2014-06-16T14:16:06+00:00

This is a couple of issues wrapped into one post.....

1) the book is to teach people not to seek affirmation in others but within themselves - you have this already

2) The mind set you are describing is healthy - not a bad thing. What kills relationships is when the man becomes eager to meet the girl, and everyone slips into this mindset every now and then. In the short term, it actually increases interest from her because you are doing the opposite of what 99% of other guys are doing, and its not a show. It really gets the hamster spinning. Keep doing this

3) Small talk is critical - this is the problem you should be focusing on. Humans are very social creatures, the ability to chit-chat or small talk is a way of building trust and comfort. Unfortunately, people sometimes feel the need to exagerate, but I think this is the fault of social media. I had a friend who can make anything sound interesting - yes - even watching paint dry, and it was amazing to see just how women would swoon over him. I realized that it was his passion that they were attracted to....

P. S - the no fap argument is silly. IF you dont exercise your heart, brain, or any other muscle, it gets weak and it doesnt know how to act when needed. Why people believe that abstaining from jerking off would make them better lovers is a mystery.

DaygameCoach · 2014-06-16T14:21:51+00:00

Sounds like you are a "conqueror" victim type from Art Of Seduction by Robert Greene. You are all about the chase. It's common in men and uncommon in women.

Besides that, you have to WANT to get the girls. Getting better with women (and getting women when you are not naturally good at it) requires a lot of motivation!

And yes, work on confidence and inner game.

Jaereth · 2014-06-16T14:39:30+00:00

I know what you mean man. The thrill of the chase is a lot of the enjoyment for me as well.

sedditforthewin · 2014-06-16T22:14:49+00:00

It sounds really simple: you don't like sex very much, at least not with submissive girls.

erthian · 2014-06-17T15:59:17+00:00

Maybe you're self sabotaging because of past failure?

sunnydiv · 2014-06-20T09:03:38+00:00

You might have low self esteem (a fixable issue), which would force your subconscious to believe that anyone who 'wants' you is not worth having

charlesbukowksi · 2014-06-16T18:16:37+00:00

I can relate. Women just aren't interesting and sex isn't any better than any other type of indulgence. Find a new hobby. Do you have a dream? Focus your energy on that.

Try reading the 48 Laws of Power or How to Win Friends and Influence People.

OnLetttingGo · 2014-06-16T17:00:09+00:00

What I see here and relate to is that both males and females like a challenge, a chase if you will. As soon as these females make it readily clear that they want to meet/progress, you lose the intensity of the hunt, when in reality it's only just begun.

I_Passed_Gandalf · 2014-06-16T15:45:36+00:00

You might want to just take a breather. Obviously, you have no anxiety, but you do have apathy. You think that the girls don't want you, or want you too much, so you give up the process midway. This thinking is just as hazardous as anxiety, since in the end you still don't get the girl, but instead of blaming yourself you're blaming the girl. There shouldn't be any blame in these situations.

I think in, "Models" by Mark Manson (an r/seduction favorite) talks about treating apathy by just talking and forcing yourself to interact, much like how you treat anxiety. He gets more into detail than me, I promise. But there are parts that can help you.

Also, quit masturbating. When you do that the hormones in your body go crazy and soon you'll do anything to get the girl. Going a week without fondling your man sausage can do wonders for dating apathy, and going two weeks without whacking it makes you really horny. Test it out, go to r/NoFap and r/NoPorn and experiment.

Title	After reading "No more Mister Nice Guy".
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Date	June 16, 2014 10:54 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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