"just move on" is NOT good advice

Fuzzy-Bottle-4138 · 2023-10-06T00:42:56+00:00

Here’s the thing…When women are unreceptive to men and reject men early on it’s usually for good reason. She might have a boyfriend/husband or other lover she’s happy with, the guy probably did something to show too much neediness, she’s probably not physically attracted, there’s too many differences in values/interests, bad logistics, she might not want any man right now etc (and a lot of these reasons have little to do with you). There’s obviously rare cases but generally speaking you’re not going to change the mind of an unreceptive women and even if you somehow do there’s usually still some friction so its not really even worth it. Rejection exists for a reason…to keep people apart that just aren’t meant to be together.

The 2 main situations where guys are told to move on are in the friend zone and with women who are taken. But guys for some reason convince themselves that if they stick around long enough and put in work they can change the woman’s mind. And this is just very unrealistic and often leads to tons of time being wasted.

It’s good to operate with the mindset of “Fuck Yes or Fuck No”. If the women isn’t saying fuck yes to spending time with you early on then there’s no reason to waste time on her. I know guys convince themselves that she’s the one but there are literally millions of other girls out there who are just as special and who are super receptive to hanging out with you. And don’t you want to spend your life with people that actually want to be around you and like you? Why would anyone want to be around someone that doesn’t appreciate them? Because they’re hot? Have some self respect and higher standards

And honesty being vulnerable to women and getting rejected is a part of being a man and is a very attractive trait. And guys that get hung up on tindividual girls who are clearly not interested and try to stick around andconvince her often come off as extremely needy and unattractive.

Rejection is a blessing not a curse…it’s a way to eliminate women from your life that won’t actually make you happy

mrfritzeltits · 2023-10-06T01:09:32+00:00

As a salesman, you wouldn’t badger a client that is not interested, you just move on until you find the one. Seduction is no different.

jpark778 · 2023-10-06T00:48:09+00:00

Move on from this post.

superanxiousfrog · 2023-10-06T00:43:55+00:00

I think the advice to move on is targeted to guys who keep hanging on to a girl that clearly doesn't want you. Which is a lot of guys here.

Of course you should try to generate attraction and keep trying to turn things around even if she is not showing interest or not straight out rejecting you, I don't think anyone disagrees with that. As long as you are being polite and respectful there is no harm in trying. After all it costs you nothing but a bit of extra time to keep going a bit more.

But when you tried enough and she is clearly not interested, just MOVE ON.

RaisinComfortable534 · 2023-10-06T01:23:34+00:00

Bro you said that you have convinced women after Months or YEARS later.

Man... your post is speaking to the sound advice for guys to be efficient. Waiting patiently for years to possibly get someone is not efficient.

DrinksAreOnTheHouse · 2023-10-06T12:00:23+00:00

Women who are interested make it easy for you to ask them out

humbledrumble · 2023-10-06T02:13:09+00:00

The time you spend haggling with a "no" chick, you could find a "yes" chick. Focus on chicks who are receptive to you instead of pulling teeth with chicks who aren't. Fuck Yes or No

TripleDigitNomad · 2023-10-06T13:18:39+00:00

Yeah not boutta waste my time simping on girls who aren't interested when there are tons of others out there who are. Just move on is good advice, this post isn't.

She's showing pretty much any sign of resistance or disinterest? Move on. My counter advice to this would be don't move on. Fight it

OP the kinda guy that takes things too far when she says no lmao

AceOfSpadesGymBro · 2023-10-06T10:43:15+00:00

Honestly, this is probably the most beta/desperate/needy advice I have ever read. First of all, the idea that you can or should somehow make a woman who is not interested, interested, is basically putting her on the proverbial pedestal. She's the prize, then less interested she is, the bigger the attraction (because we all want what we can't get) and you lowly serf need to be out there fighting for her and using everything in your lame PUA arsenal to turn it around.

Just thinking like that presupposes that you are not good enough for these women and that maybe you just didn't try hard enough to impress them or get them. I feel sorry for anyone who takes your lame beta advice.

Sendmeloveletters · 2023-10-06T15:09:08+00:00

Bro you got oneitis or something? If she ain’t interested don’t become an orbiter and try to change her mind from the friend zone, just move on. You shouldn’t get fixated on specific women, that’s the way to a broken heart over and over. You meet people, and it click or it don’t. But if a chick is a pain in the ass, disrespectful, or flaky, it’s pathetic to continue investing time or energy when you already know what it is. When people post here the interaction is already over. The time to move on is already passed. If she comes back sure start a new interaction, but don’t fixate on one chick and keep trying different shit until you wear her down, that’s pathetic.

Basic85 · 2023-10-06T00:54:52+00:00

Yeah I get what you're saying, I don't know if you mentioned it but back in my day we called "plowing". Meaning if a girl says no to date or what not, than you would keep presisting or "plowing" through it maybe at least a couple of times before letting go and maybe trying again later.

DaygameCode · 2023-10-06T10:56:40+00:00

It’s not to protect the ego, on the contrary, a main reason why many guys never stops trying is because of their ego. Because they can’t handle a woman telling him no, they think:

“Oh she is wrong, she has to like me, i’m a a pick up artist or i’m an alpha male, she has to be attracted to me, i can’t let her get away with not being into me, what would that say about me? it might mean that i’m not good at this, i have had better girls than her so she should not resist i i do every trick”.

Moving in is not ego, moving on is being humble enough to accept that not everyone you like has to like you back. Something the ego can’t usually accept.

Also, one of the things that makes you unattractive is being a try-hard and outcome dependant, and develop oneitis.

That puts you in a needy state where everything you do starts to become desperate moves that are counterproductive. The more you try the more you uninterested she becomes, the more emotional energy you waste, and the more that later affects your self-esteem.

Not only that, but saying to people “keep trying with this specific girl, never surrender, never give up,…” It is something very dangerous, not just for certain guys, but for many girls.

There is a thing called being a harasser. Let’s say a girl told you NO time and time again, and you keep insisting, then you are beginning to become a harasser, you are beginning to make them feel uncomfortable, you are beginning to creep them out, and in many countries you are doing a crime due to the feminist laws.

There are guys who go crazy trying for ever with every girl, and waste years behind her, that’s if the girl for some reason hasn’t called the police and has all the patience in the world imaginable.

I see that your thread has got lot of upvotes, and i have the feeling that those upvotes are from men who can easily start harassing girls and become obsessed with one woman that just doesn’t fucking like them no matter what he says, what he does, or how much he tries, because their ego can’t accept that a girl just simply doesn’t find them attractive at all.

So, no this is not good advice at all and it is quite clear that OP doesn’t really understand what ego is. Accepting defeat, and accepting not everyone you like has to like you back, is not protecting your ego, it’s the opposite… It’s telling your ego to recognise your limits which is a humble move, not an ego move.

kalaamtext · 2023-10-06T12:01:59+00:00

My guy with this mentality you are gonna get a restraining order put on you lmao 🤣 just leave them women alone if they not feeling it right now they just not feeling it

PrestigiousCheck7374 · 2023-10-06T01:07:54+00:00

Seduction doesn’t exist. Either a woman likes you or not. If men want to attract women they need to start going to the gym, expand their social circle by meeting more people and making friends, grooming themselves etc. and when women are attracted to them they will receive choosing signals, after that texting should be simple and to the point(asking out) if a woman finds you attractive she will make it easy for you, if she doesn’t then don’t chase her.

iiTryhard · 2023-10-06T01:19:01+00:00

Why would I want woman that is making it hard for me? There’s plenty out there that make it easy. I’m not gonna waste my time being a source of entertainment for her without getting any reciprocation

rgvmadness · 2023-10-06T05:36:36+00:00

Having made it through a couple of dysfunctional relationships in my life, I can tell you 2 things: 1. Sometimes, “move on” Is the only good advice. 2. When you’re in a dysfunctional relationship and someone advises you to move on, you won’t listen to that advice anyways.

zertsetzung · 2023-10-06T06:36:38+00:00

"My counter advice to this would be don't move on. Fight it, get hurt, get humiliated, she flaked, ghosted? It doesn't matter. Fuck your ego."

FUCKIN A!!!

Southofsouth · 2023-10-06T00:16:09+00:00

Women have the right to consent, my dude. They reject you = they dont consent = you move on.

mangusta123 · 2023-10-06T04:58:50+00:00

Yeah just become a turbosimp bro

sunnybunny12692 · 2023-10-06T01:01:35+00:00

I feel ya, to me seduction implies wanting to resist but not being able to.

bigolswole · 2023-10-06T01:42:31+00:00

OP ain’t wrong. This stuff is nuanced.

WildIntimacyMan · 2023-10-06T03:24:54+00:00

You're right but this concept is too advanced for most beginners to hold on to.

Mc_Dickles · 2023-10-06T03:16:24+00:00

Yea don’t give up. There’s nothing wrong with putting a girl in the back pocket and putting more effort in another. Gotta keep a rotation like sneakers.

Dandys3107 · 2023-10-06T07:51:44+00:00

I think that most people here suggest to "move on" if dynamics are really hard to turn around. It will be just easier to take a chance with someone else. "Brute forcing" is hardly ever a way in relations. Obviously you should not overthink singular signals and go for what you want, but at some point it's very clear that it goes nowhere, as mood and emotions are flat and asexual.

MywarUK · 2023-10-06T09:47:27+00:00

Move on can be great advice, can be terrible advice just like any other advice, it's how its put into context. Some people really need to be told move on, Iv seen some super cringy shit posted here where someone has been needed to be told move on.

"I met her about an hour ago, messaged her about 20 times and had no response! What do I do guys? sent her a dick pic at least 8 times.. says seen and no reply! HELP"
These people don't need advice... we don't even want to help them, so a Move on its perfect advice for a cringe person :P

alexmaycovid · 2023-10-06T10:13:30+00:00

Why to date a stubborn girl? When there are lots good girls? Of course you have to read the situation but if you see nothing helps.

imverytired96 · 2023-10-06T19:55:59+00:00

OP is onto nothing 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏

parmenides100 · 2023-10-06T22:58:19+00:00

Yea this isn’t it.

Title	"just move on" is NOT good advice
Author	ZealousidealRaisin76
Upvotes	47
Comments	79
Date	October 5, 2023 11:38 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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