Any reason to trust this graph?

eurmahm · 2024-03-29T21:29:13+00:00

Any time you see something like this with no citations or information regarding where the data came from, you should disregard.

spiraldinosaur · 2024-03-29T21:50:22+00:00

Firstly, stop following that account. Do anything you can to make sure you never see that account or anything connected to it. If this sort of thing is coming up in your social feed, you need a proper reset of your social account to get rid of it. It is doing nothing for you. Block this account, block any account that follows this account, any account that retweets it. It is poison.

Secondly, let's actually review this "evidence". There are 3 critical things to consider with this graph

We have no idea where it comes from. We don't know how many women were surveyed, we don't know where that survey took place, we don't know anything about the women who answered it, when they answered it, what they were actually answering. For example, many women will say they only want to date a man who is 6ft, but many people - not just women - are terrible at judging actual height. So if they give that answer, it's not actually representative of what they would actually be attracted to. I feel like a lot of women have just learned to answer "6 foot" as like a default answer, despite the fact that they would easily find guys way shorter than that attractive. They don't walk around carrying a tape measure. If they were looking at pictures of different men and saying which ones they would prefer, then we can't assume they answered purely based on height, because obviously other factors would influence there answer. If they were just looking at some sort of diagram of men of different heights, then that also doesn't give a true answer because we don't look like diagrams. Simply put, there's not really a good way to get a true answer from enough women to generate a reliable graph like this.
Correlation is not causation. Do these women find short men unattractive? Or have they just met a lot of short men who are insecure about their height, thus they are generally quite unpleasant to be around? That is to say, do they find short men unattractive because of their height, or do they find short men unattractive because of how they behave based on their own perception of themselves?
Height is not the single deciding factor on whether a woman finds a man attractive. It may play a part for many women, but it is rarely the most important one. A short man who is fun to be around and who is kind and empathetic and interesting will be far more attractive than a tall narcissist with an over inflated ego and who presents himself with total arrogance. A tall guy who can't dress properly or who never trims his beard or who doesn't shower often or generally doesn't take care of his hygiene and skin is going to be far less attractive than a short guy who dresses well and shows up looking like he knows how to look after himself.
At the end of the day, none of us are hoping to date 90% of women. The purpose of dating is to find a compatible match. Even if you're at exactly 6ft where apparently you're the right height for 90%+ women, you're still only looking to date one of them. It might mean that at 6ft, less women will be considering your height a turn off, but there could be a whole list of other reasons a 6ft tall guy is only attractive to 5% of women (see the last point). If only 5% of women would date a man of your height, that's fine, you're looking to date far less than 5% of women. You don't need to be attractive to 90% of women, you need to find the women who find you are compatible with, the women who you find attractive, and who find you attractive.

And if you want to find those women who love a short king (and believe me it's waaaaay more than 5%), then the best thing you can do is stop believing graphs like this and start believing that you are a worthy person, that you have good qualities, that you are confident in yourself. Simply having the confidence in yourself, taking care of your appearance, being a person who people like to be around because you're fun, interesting, giving out positive energy, will do so much more for so many women than your height ever will.

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2024-03-29T22:12:06+00:00

Check the source. Mosting of these charts come from dating site statistics, and people on dating sites just are not the same as people elsewhere.

agreable_actuator · 2024-03-29T21:24:14+00:00

What do you mean by trust it? What difference does it make to you if some stranger on the internet trusts it or not? If I had an argument that strongly supported this or disproved it, how would either outcome impact your life?

Allusionator · 2024-03-29T21:14:37+00:00

Being very short counts against you with a lot of women but it isn’t 90%+. This is def exaggerated to make you stress, plus no source so it’s def not academic whatsoever. The question is between either a lazy poll they want to pretend is science or just outright making it up.

Think-Committee-9977 · 2024-03-29T22:30:40+00:00

Is there a similar study with women’s breast size? Or waist to hip ratio? Why should anyone who isn’t perfect even try to find a relationship?

It’s like people these days just don’t look outside and see all the diverse people in relationships. When I worked as a cashier, I seen so many types of couples. You’d be surprised if you actually went and looked around, instead of looking at things heavily influenced by media and Hollywood.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2024-03-29T22:27:04+00:00

What study did this come from? Sample size? Has other studies come to similar results? About half of these kinds of studies fail to be replicated so this matters. Also how well does stated height preference in a survey match actual dating choices when meeting people?

NightApprehensive655 · 2024-03-31T17:01:50+00:00

I am a 5'3 girl and my ideal is 5'7, honestly. this stuffs are just ridiculous

That_Back3371 · 2024-03-30T11:14:28+00:00

Incels being obsessive about their height again, don’t even need to read

Quo_Usque · 2024-03-29T23:32:07+00:00

So, how many women were in this study, and what was actually asked of them? Were they asked "would you date a guy of x height?" Were they asked "what is your ideal height for a partner"? My best interpretation of that graph is that most of the women surveyed prefer their partners to be between 70 and 74 inches tall, all other things being equal. Of course, in real life, all other things are NOT equal, and height is only one factor of many that women consider, and it is rarely a deciding factor. If the guy is nice, funny, engaging, polite, etc. etc., being reasonably tall is a sweet bonus. If he's an asshole, being tall won't save him.

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2024-03-30T03:12:33+00:00

Not without citing the study it is from. But let’s suppose it is true, So what? All it’s saying is the % of women. It is not required to be accepted by 80% or even 50% of women.

SweelFor- · 2024-03-31T10:23:22+00:00

I wrote this for you: https://old.reddit.com/r/IncelExit/comments/1ae0oyw/here_is_an_extremely_important_concept_the/

Albin_Hansson · 2024-04-01T21:03:50+00:00

It seems that incels rely on this study, I haven’t read it and I don’t know if such information is true. I personally didn’t find such a graph in this study; in any case, speed dating studies should not be taken as representative

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236670565_The_height_of_choosiness_Mutual_mate_choice_for_stature_results_in_suboptimal_pair_formation_for_both_sexes

azucarleta · 2024-03-29T21:58:14+00:00

Call me cynical, but do another graph where you presuppose the man is very very wealthy and generous, and then see how short they will accept.

The point being it's about the entire package, in real life. These survey answers are being give in a vacuum. Short may not be desired, but you can overcome it. You don't have to be wealthy, but it could also be great body, great job, good father, whatever.

NegativeKarmaVegan · 2024-03-29T22:09:03+00:00

Doesn't look too farfetched to me, considering it's from the US where height for men is very important and the population is somewhat tall.

Title	Any reason to trust this graph?
Author	KaliFlesh
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Date	March 29, 2024 9:07 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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