The red pill ruins everything and, also women actually want less than the top 10% of men.

Able_Donut2654 · 2024-10-07T05:39:47+00:00

Removed; Blackpill content goes in the looks megathread.

driggsky · 2024-10-07T04:59:06+00:00

Tbh redpill has made me much more negative and afraid of women and commitment and its definitely been harming my ability to bond with women

Women may say that this is of my own doing. But to be honest, i just cant unsee it. And i guess ive been burned by women too much and have seen the red pill advice work too often to not believe it.

I really wish i could just commit to a girl and bond with her but the fear of her monkey branching or getting tired of me or whatever, is always lurking in the back

I probably do have problems with dating and that existed before the red pill but wow at least i used to believe that women cared for men being moral and good men. I just cant unsee the reality that being a good man is completely irrelevant (and so is being a good woman)

Ironically red pill has helped me date more women but has also been a big factor in me being more superficial and negative about women too

stats135 · 2024-10-07T04:54:35+00:00

The red pill ruins everything

This implies things weren't ruined before TRP, which is very much not the case. Life is suffering. It all sucks. The default Blue Pill shoved down our throats by society was never any better.

LAKings55 · 2024-10-07T04:36:37+00:00

Or you know...you could try living life, having your own experiences and learning/growing from them.

BatGuy1288 · 2024-10-07T04:55:10+00:00

Joker 3 already?

neverendingplush93 · 2024-10-07T05:30:04+00:00

I think your take on the redpill is a little ridiculous. I'm not a fan of the subculture now, but 5 -6 years ago before it got high jacked by grifting and hit mainstream media there was some eye opening interesting content that wasn't just about women, but perspectives about life.

For sure yes , average women want the absolute top guys , and online dating has given them sexual access to such men, but at the same time we a men have so much access to knowledge and information regarding sexual dynamics, whereas as in the past men were kind of going on a hunch, or maybe had some half backed theories , had no spaces to discuss them.

I don't hate women, I just now have a better understanding of their behaviour and patterns. Yiu can even see a lot of it play out on this sub.

Gold_Supermarket1956 · 2024-10-07T04:48:41+00:00

Lol dude, being redpill just means you're aware of female nature and that you will never be loved unconditionally

operajunkie · 2024-10-07T04:51:26+00:00

You’re right we’re all terrible please stay away from us.

Rocketskate69 · 2024-10-07T05:09:46+00:00

It’s really funny when people poorly use pop culture references to prove a point other than celeb culture is weird.

Any rich person and their relationship is usually an abnormality. They delve in the true outliers of wealth and beauty that every RP guy in this sub thinks the average person deals with.

For average women and men, like you and I and the majority of people, we behave normally. Attraction comes in a variety of ways and also not the only thing that makes a relationship last. It’s not as simple as many of you pretend it is. You only wish it were that simply so you could make sense of something you don’t quite understand which is unfortunately socialization

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-10-07T05:24:31+00:00

Red pill talks about women like they are all under 32, have at least a cute face and nice swimsuit body.

Single women need affection and intimacy, they could want the top 10% if men all they want, those guys don’t have enough time to get to them. Most women got to date outside too 10% of men.

ThatBitchA · 2024-10-07T04:48:01+00:00

I am genuinely terrified of marriage cohabitating being in a relationship or having a child with a woman.

So don't. Nobody is forcing you.

which in turn makes almost everything impossible to enjoy when you have a red pill perspective.

Seems to be their intention. To make men miserable.

So even if her attraction I'd there today it can just as easily be gone tomorrow.

Same with a man's.

Suspicious_Glove7365 · 2024-10-07T04:35:22+00:00

All I’m reading here is the predictable drivel of a man who is taking himself out of the dating pool so that women don’t have to find out your red flags later after they’ve wasted a lot of time on you. Bye, won’t miss ya.

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catdog8020 · 2024-10-07T05:26:36+00:00

What

ExcelsiorState718 · 2024-10-07T05:56:00+00:00

Red pill helped me and my wife improve our marriage immensely. Not saying I subscribe to everything or want a threesome with Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan, but coming from a religious background, many of the ideas go hand and hand with my religion. The red pill movement and all the relationship podcasts as of late have brought these ideas into discussion. Wife and I started engaging and trading videos back and forth. We are intelligent enough to take the good out of red pill ideas and toss the stuff we don’t like. There were a lot of hard conversations but also mutual understanding in regards to gender roles and us wanting a more traditional marriage. We both recognize the issues with modern dating and relationships and how it affects both genders, but disproportionately men. I did go through a stage of anger as we were adjusting, but affirming my masculinity and not having a fight for leadership in our household also gave me the courage to not be a fake hard macho man and I try to provide more emotional support.

I think the problem with the movement for young men especially is that there aren’t always a lot of realistic solutions sometimes and the issues plaguing society that red pill exposes are actually getting worse. So, it’s very easy to be angry and just stew in the negativity and anger and resentment instead of engaging the real world.

Personally my main issue with red pill dating sphere is that while I wholeheartedly agree with traditional gender roles (probably more extreme and old fashioned than most), I also recognize the value of a husband who loves and cares for his wife as an independent person with her own agency, thoughts and ideas. Some within the red pill movement go way overboard with the “look at all these dismal dating statistics women are subhuman tools for breeding and if you’re having issues getting a gf you’re a weak man.” Well of course that’s going to make a lonely man feel ashamed and angry and resentful and influence his interactions, or lack thereof, with females.

catdog8020 · 2024-10-07T06:43:25+00:00

Why is it that no one gets the red pill and it’s philosophical tenants are not based on the three stooges woman haters club and/or Andrew Tate or incels - it’s the complete opposite. It’s really based on research from current dating trends and evolutionary psychology which is evidenced based. Its also about adapting and overcoming adversities in the dating and marriage arena due to the inequalities men experience in modern dating and marriage. It’s also about advocating for men’s rights when these rights have been stripped away from men due to sexism and draconian rulings from our current family court system that exponentially favors woman (why is this bad?). Its goal is to provide an awareness and education not hate. It also provides a pathway of opportunity to become a better man through physical, mental and spiritual Enlightenment. Within this scope, it also encourages an understanding of existentialism and philosophy (especially German philosophy like nietzsche, etc). This, in my opinion is where the darkness comes from an understanding of the horrible nature of people, society, religion, men, woman and relationships. I don’t agree with all the concepts such as blaming feminism, being celibate, going your own way by avoiding and/or decentering from woman, etc. My main reason for being a mother fucking red pill man advocate is that if there isn’t a mother fucking balance in the dating fucking market and marriage it can have dire consequences for the fucking:

1) quality of life in men 2) qualify of life in woman 3) men’s mental health will suffer from lack of sex and intimacy leading to depression, suicide and inappropriate aggressive behaviors

I have personally first hand seen the horrible inequalities in dating for men from my personal research. Not all men but a large proportion of men are suffering and it fucking sucks bad. We need women and it’s extremely unnatural the way things are going. My suggestion is not to decenter from woman but to recenter toward woman. It’s about finding the right fucking woman where there are none. Men need legalized prostitution, more dating opportunities, access to passports at a reduced rate so they can find ideal woman overseas if needed, etc. Ironically, I am not a fucking republican and hate Texas because it’s too law and fucking order and also ironically I am a supporter of pro-choice legislation, reproductive rights and subsidizing childcare or free childcare so woman and men can work if they want to. I know i may sound like a walking contradiction but i am what i am - unfortunately a Human being and a man. What do yall think? There are many truths in this dark life we live in. Peace and love always rule.

Redpill-mind · 2024-10-07T04:37:32+00:00

Once you're Redpill aware movies music literature and every aspect of life is altered you no longer care to go to a friend's wedding because you know they are making a terrible mistake you can see through the simpish romcoms and dramas that pander to the female consumer,women make up 70% of the consumer base so nearly everything caters to them which in turn makes almost everything impossible to enjoy when you have a red pill perspective.

Speak for yourself lol

SaBahRub · 2024-10-07T05:00:10+00:00

Thinking that women want a tiny minority of men kinda ruins more things than the red pill. Even they aren’t so crazy

WanabeInflatable · 2024-10-07T05:23:01+00:00

Red pill is somewhat akin to rabid feminist view that is obsessed with crimes and wrongdoings of men. Women who "understood the true nature of men" fear and avoid men. Like TRP rabid feminism is fact based, just these facts seem to be from a pre-selected subset of facts. TRP and rabid feminism both ignore the facts that don't support their picture.

In case of OP: I personally know many women who a very much in love with their at best mediocre husbands who are very far from handsome standards, earn barely enough for survival and are certainly not dominating violent brutes. My modest experience with women before getting married also totally contradicts BS about women wanting only 2%

Bloody_Mandrake · 2024-10-07T05:48:55+00:00

It's around 3 AM now in this side of the hemisphere (or at least when I hit the reply buttom) and while I write this I can hear the grunts and moans coming from my Chad neighbour's apartment, he's banging a brand new chick.

I'm not into voyerism or anything, and pretty much the whole building can hear them anyways, but the funny thing is that if pretty much fit the Terpers description of the dating market.

The dude is a player. A pal may be 7-8 years younger than me. Prototypical Chad. +6 foot (noticeable shorter than me, but I'm 6.3') very handsome lad in the face, good chin, quite jacked indeed. Is an awesome lad to hang out with mind you, a but dumb in the head but very funny and with a positive mindset overall. But yeah, he's a player, and he plays these gals really hard.

The girl he's banging now is a foreign student. I know because I can hear her talk (and scream). I ran into her this morning while I was taking out the trash...

Now, this shit gets funnier and funnier.

Usually this guy tends to bang normal, average looking gals. Not INCREDIBLY pretty, but not ugly at all neither. Just middle looking girls... 6s and 7s let say.

It makes sense, I was doing the same when I had his age, the 6s and 7s are the sweet spot between "easy/pretty" scale. The hotter the gal is the harder is to make her put out, so you lower in the hot range in order to attain something that doesn't take too much effort. That's how the casual sex scene works right?

Well... This gal... The foreign one... It's a 4 dude hahaha.

The dude is DEFINETLY banging her because of the exotic aspect of it. Like... Not in my worst times I would have dared to go that low kid you not.

And this dude is a 9 without effort, when he's sick. No homo shit but this dude is a very particular kind of dude.

And I heard her talk about "their countrymen" yesterday...

Man... Oh man...

When she goes back to her country dudes are gonna have a hard time meting her in the middle you know hahahaha...

"Men in my country lack game in the sack unlike you", "Men in my country are not as hawt as you", "Men in my country are shorter than you", "Men in my country don't eat pussy like you"...

Man this lady is tearing apart the reputation of her folks hahah.

She's a 4 shagging a 9, and the way she talks... She's heating everything he says without realizing she's just a fetish.

And that's the lesson.

I do not agree that much with Terpers, but yeah, whenever a woman bangs a man above her paycheck (and they do it more often than you think) that man becomes her new bar.

Title	The red pill ruins everything and, also women actually want less than the top 10% of men.
Author	ExcelsiorState718
Upvotes	5
Comments	108
Date	October 7, 2024 4:28 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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