Never have I seen a more disgusting thread, only rape apologia and dehumanization.

Mortalcouch · 2025-03-14T20:37:58+00:00

Yeah it's pretty crazy how many people (men AND women) who seem to believe men can't be raped.

There was a local news article recently of a teacher near me who "sexually assaulted" (raped) a 15 year old boy multiple times from 13-15. So many comments were like, "is it really rape? I mean he's a teenage boy, he probably wanted it"

Are young teenage boys not minors?? Do boys and men not get consent?

SparkLabReal · 2025-03-14T20:47:13+00:00

I've never seen someone be so openly sexist in my life, I genuinely gasped at some of this vile shit.

- Saying 10 years olds should get a "high five" for SLEEPING with their teachers.

- Saying men prey on teenagers all the time

- Saying female on male abuse is fake

- Saying all scenarios of sexism are made up

- Calling a victim of rape a "useless piece of shit" who "needs to be more assertive"

- Saying a man raping a woman isn't the same as a woman raping a man

Just what the fuck man

Snoo_78037 · 2025-03-14T20:47:22+00:00

Gross. Since we don't teach men that they're valuable and worthy of protection and that women can be dangerous we get men that don't even recognise they're own victim hood and the victim hood of other men since we constantly yasslight women into thinking they are sweet delicate flowers that could never hurt a fly people will make excuses for them. Chris Brown even bragged about losing his virginity at 8 years old. This narrative of men being the only people capable of rape actively harms people and stops justice from being served.

DecrepitAbacus · 2025-03-15T00:31:32+00:00

I was sexually abused by an aunt whilst seven and eight. Strangely when it became known to others...

No man ever called me a liar.

No man ever called me a misogynist.

No man ever assaulted me.

No man ever told me I "must have wanted it".

No man ever made excuses for the perpetrator.

It was always a woman.

63daddy · 2025-03-14T22:28:08+00:00

Sadly, that’s nothing new. Here’s an article by a prominent feminist written 15 years ago arguing that boys being raped by women shouldn’t be taken as seriously as girls being raped by men.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/29/barbara-ellen-madeleine-martin-comment

Anxious_Data_1709 · 2025-03-14T23:35:20+00:00

That statistic “90% of male rape victims are raped by other men” isn’t even true. It’s annoying that people are still spouting that nonsense. It’s 34%.

Capital_Ad_5003 · 2025-03-14T21:38:56+00:00

Just imagine if a women asked this question…. It would be “why are men like this they are so predatory”

binsomniac · 2025-03-14T22:02:07+00:00

That's awful. But of course they are constantly "Preaching" with equality...🤔 When they dismiss men being victims of women. Making fun, and verbally "bashing" them.

AfghanistanIsTaliban · 2025-03-15T02:40:10+00:00

Surely someone points out that something like 90% of rapists for men/boys are men

[citation needed]

The Sexual Victimization of Men in America: New Data Challenge Old Assumptions

Abstract:

We assessed 12-month prevalence and incidence data on sexual victimization in 5 federal surveys that the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation conducted independently in 2010 through 2012. We used these data to examine the prevailing assumption that men rarely experience sexual victimization. We concluded that federal surveys detect a high prevalence of sexual victimization among men—in many circumstances similar to the prevalence found among women. We identified factors that perpetuate misperceptions about men’s sexual victimization: reliance on traditional gender stereotypes, outdated and inconsistent definitions, and methodological sampling biases that exclude inmates. We recommend changes that move beyond regressive gender assumptions, which can harm both women and men.

Study references CDC data which unfairly splits forced intercourse into "rape" and "made to penetrate" even though most academics say that MTP is a form of rape:

For example, in 2011 the CDC reported results from the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS), one of the most comprehensive surveys of sexual victimization conducted in the United States to date. The survey found that men and women had a similar prevalence of nonconsensual sex in the previous 12 months (1.270 million women and 1.267 million men).5 This remarkable finding challenges stereotypical assumptions about the gender of victims of sexual violence. However unintentionally, the CDC’s publications and the media coverage that followed instead highlighted female sexual victimization, reinforcing public perceptions that sexual victimization is primarily a women’s issue.

so if you count "made to penetrate" as a form of rape, then men and women are victimized in roughly equal number under this definition. Furthermore, it reveals an injustice in the criminal justice system when compared to the lopsided crime statistics.

also according to CDC data, 79% of men who were "made to penetrate" reported female perps.

Sexual Violence:

87% of male victims of (completed or attempted) rape reported only male perpetrators.

79% of male victims of being made to penetrate reported only female perpetrators.

82% of male victims of sexual coercion reported only female perpetrators.

53% of male victims of unwanted sexual contact reported only female perpetrators.

48% of male victims of lifetime non-contact unwanted sexual experiences reported only male perpetrators.

Stalking

46% of male victims reported being stalked by only female perpetrators.

43% of male victims reported being stalked by only male perpetrators.

8% of male victims reported being stalked by both male and female perpetrators.

Intimate partner violence:

97% of men who experienced rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner had only female perpetrators.

WHY is female victimization so highlighted? Feminists attribute this to patriarchy (ie. desexualization of men, toxic masculinity, women are wonderful effect)

But there is a very insidious effect behind some of this. It's that feminists' insistence on qualitative studies leads to circular, unscientific reasoning, as explained by this Canadian psych study:

The gender paradigm in domestic violence research and theory: Part 1—The conflict of theory and data

Abstract:

Feminist theory of intimate violence is critically reviewed in the light of data from numerous incidence studies reporting levels of violence by female perpetrators higher than those reported for males, particularly in younger age samples. A critical analysis of the methodology of these studies is made with particular reference to the Conflict Tactics Scale developed and utilised by Straus and his colleagues. Results show that the gender disparity in injuries from domestic violence is less than originally portrayed by feminist theory. Studies are also reviewed indicating high levels of unilateral intimate violence by females to both males and females. Males appear to report their own victimization less than females do and to not view female violence against them as a crime. Hence, they differentially under-report being victimized by partners on crime victim surveys. It is concluded that feminist theory is contradicted by these findings and that the call for “qualitative” studies by feminists is really a means of avoiding this conclusion. A case is made for a paradigm having developed amongst family violence activists and researchers that precludes the notion of female violence, trivializes injuries to males and maintains a monolithic view of a complex social problem.

The last two sentences of this abstract perfectly sums up my opinion on this topic. Especially the first:

It is concluded that feminist theory is contradicted by these findings and that the call for “qualitative” studies by feminists is really a means of avoiding this conclusion.

ThrowawayGhostGuy1 · 2025-03-15T02:05:50+00:00

If they want to “teach men not to rape,” maybe don’t imply that raping men isn’t bad.

ReceptionInformal749 · 2025-03-14T22:13:17+00:00

Ohh my god, keep your little children safe form the predators like her, the men who fantasize never truly experienced it, which is this from 2X ? Literally

Sewblon · 2025-03-15T01:13:46+00:00

The idea that most men who are sexually assaulted are sexually assaulted by other men is not true. Most men who are sexually assaulted report female perpetrators. Also, most of the male inmates who have sex with female correctional officers are minors. So the idea that they are not victims is very dubious. https://malesurvivor.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/StempleFloresMeyer2016femaleperpetators.pdfAlso, "considered the other way around" by whom? The officers? the inmates? both? someone completely different? A rape survivor blackmailing their rapist doesn't make it not rape. What happens after the fact in sexual assault is not relevant to who is the victim and who is the aggressor.

Also, being hot does not preclude being a rapist. You can't infer consent from your own sex appeal. A grown woman sexually assaulting a teen-aged boy is the moral equivalent of a middle aged man sexually assaulting a teen-aged girl.

The dude said "no" and it happened anyway. So in that sense it is comparable to what women experience.

Finally, the correctional officers are the ones with the authority in the inmate-officer relationship. So the idea that these officers are being manipulated by the boys they have sex with is to me, dubious, especially because the boys are minors. Also, "In prison for years without seeing a woman and managing to fuck a female prison guard" implies agency on part of the prisoner, when most of the agency lies with the officer. So this is begging the question. I have no experience in the prison system. But, I don't believe that none of the male prisoners who get fudged by female correctional officers think of themselves as victims. Some of them are gay. Some of them are ace. Some of them are picky.

Lolocraft1 · 2025-03-15T02:40:47+00:00

OOP also used the term "moids", a pejorative term which is the contraction of "men" and humanoid, to dehumanize men, mostly used by femcels (and shitposters, but that’s another case)

This is the type of people who would probably go apeshit at the mere mention of men’s advocates

FancyGeologist4145 · 2025-03-14T21:38:01+00:00

Bro, gimme the sauce. I’m gonna go cast vicious mockery in the form of perfect logic proving that this bitch is mathematically a dumbfuck

AppearanceFree3827 · 2025-03-15T02:47:46+00:00

A police officer with a vest full of weapons and countless colleagues is "trapped and under an inmates thumb"..

????

wolfeflow · 2025-03-14T22:00:02+00:00

Where did you get this bile from?

nermada02 · 2025-03-14T22:20:17+00:00

Female rap*sh behaviour is so real

Some dont even go that far, but they definely invade ur brain with their games and it feels sickening

Back in childhood I had a babysitter driver who called me "my angel", definely she was feeding on my little balls energy with her witchery! Disgusting. Imagine if a lil girl had a male babysitter who called her "my angel".

WonderfulPresent9026 · 2025-03-15T04:13:09+00:00

The first thing that ever made me really consider mens rights as a concept was when i was in my first year of middke school where one of my teachers at the time (a male one) explsined that in my contry if a fifteen year old girl slept eith s ten year old guy it was still the guy that would be charged with statutory rape because since both are minor and beither can concent obviously the guy is wrong becuase only nen van rape women.

Literally verbatam what he said to our class.

When our class argued back mostly the guys we were treated as if we were just trying to be funny and immature and he just kept repeating that basically men are allways the agressors by nature of penetration so only they should be accused of rape.

At this point i already had plenty of media telling me about how disasvantaged women supposudly were in socity abd that was the first real time i started to question that in my own head.

Latter-Ad-689 · 2025-03-15T09:36:45+00:00

I don't get their angle. Isn't "you should have fought back, you must have enjoyed it" exactly the sort of patriarchal/rape culture talking point feminism claims to be against.

Why would a movement for equality so jealously guard its status as perennial victim rather than advocate for equal treatment. "Stop! Only we are rape victims." doesn't sound all that feminist if you think about it.

Suspicious-Candle123 · 2025-03-15T17:12:46+00:00

"Misandry doesn't exist, guise!"

Also a fun take: "Men act like they don't prey on and thirst after teenage girls all the fucking time"

No, we really fucking don't, actually.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2025-03-15T23:03:17+00:00

If changing the gender makes that its suddenly ok to do it. It literally proofs why no one should take your struggles seriously. If you cant give the same respect you demanding of others. Well why should anyone care about you all together.

And thats the biggest part why women are there own worst enemies. There actions and treatment and acting like hypocrites make more and more people turn against them. And the natural way how women cheer on there own bad behaviors. Just compounds the problem and how quickly the world turns against women as a whole.

Men often just upholding there own moral values. While women much more get swayed by what's socially acceptable to say.

Why and how the growth of disinterest in women by men both there struggles and the wish to date or "simp" for them growths a all time high. That dating apps and speed dates or blind meet-ups are begging for men to take part cause its often now 30 women to 1 men.

But its a natural outcome if you keep demanding more and more respect and things of people while you would never give them the same respect in kind.

And cause women so go out of there way to find excuses for there bad behaviors. People just turn against them and get more and more fed up anything around them.

Cause they scream about equality but would never treat people equally how they demanding of others.

And its easy to see everywhere in real life. On tv. On news. In the paper. In the courts. In the jail sentences. And most of all in the behaviors of women and how they treat guys.

What really makes that they create that the world quickly turns against them.

Cause if a men is overly sexist against women. Other men would often correct the bad behavior. So men are often a lot more grounded cause of it. But cause women celebrating bad behaviors of women and the "you go girl attitude" just make ever few months it level up more and more worse and worse. Till you have the level we are now.

And people love sayings I deserve I deserve. People deserve nothing. Your unwilling to give to others and that includes respect and safety. Why should anyone give you respect if you find you deserve it while you dont give anyone equal respect. And why should you deserve any safety if you actively try and make others feel unsafe.

People are only worthy of things they actively give others in kind.

Love gets love in kind. And hate will get met with hate in kind.

If you show you dont care about us why be all that surprised we dont give a damn about you.

The world is really that simple. People dont forget how they been treated.

And if women read the same thing about them why would they be surprised when men get angry/ discussed. reading those messages.

Why the best thing you can do. Is ban any of those kind of people from your life. And not even piss on them when there on fire. And be as happy and fulfilled as possible.

Winter_Awareness1057 · 2025-03-15T06:11:30+00:00

I wonder what her dad and son or husband (god I hope not) would be suffering

ContributionMean6108 · 2025-03-15T08:48:29+00:00

Rape being women’s thing only is a way for women to maintain some areas of power and control within the patriarchy. It’s essentially weaponized victimhood. Just how there’s so many cases of women who would accuse a black man of raping them and get him literally murdered only to be like years later “oh yeah actually that never happened he just turned me down and I was pissed so I accused him of SA.”

NotBaron · 2025-03-16T04:38:24+00:00

That last comment...damn.

I wonder what would be the reaction if you told this person "women in prison who get rapped by their guards should consider themselves lucky because they have no man otherwise".

Stupid mentality

DrewYetti · 2025-03-15T08:36:12+00:00

Double standards hypocrisy where it’s unacceptable for one sex (women) while it’s acceptable for another (men). So how can these feminists say we live in a “rape culture” where sex violence against women is normalised while sex violence towards men is not take seriously and seen as a joke.

World-Three · 2025-03-18T06:37:10+00:00

This is why female aggresseor rape charges need to be called rape.

Look at the stupid word switch done when talking about juvenile officers raping boys. The fact they can boldly call it sex releases the stigma from the act because if it read outside of direct context it can be misunderstood as legally consentual .

A reason males high five each other about boys having sex with teachers in school isn't because they are proud some adult lady did illegal crap with them, It's mostly because they got any at all. I know in school it felt like some weird world where we were looking at all the girls, and all the girls were looking outside at the 19 20 somethings with cars and a job. You can't compete with that. So little Jimmy getting with the teacher looks like a score because it was considered an absolute drought otherwise. I'm not defending it, just explaining it. Another thing is, boys and men are typically attracted to developed bodies. Teachers are more likely to have that than their peers.

It's a lost cause in my opinion. It is legally permitted for women to call female rape sex, and I feel like the comprehension that is required to understand that it is rape even though it isn't called rape because of pathetic legalese goes right over their heads willingly or otherwise because it empowers them to make the wrong point that women good men bad. If you beat them, they'll change the subject and learn nothing.

Just_an_user_160 · 2025-03-20T20:51:01+00:00

But if you tell them a lot of women have rape fantasies i wonder how they will react.

Black-Patrick · 2025-03-14T22:51:45+00:00

That’s a huge overstatement in the title.

jack_avram · 2025-03-15T13:40:12+00:00

Lack of fundamental human compassion due to indoctrination

Reasonable-Offer8317 · 2025-03-16T00:37:01+00:00

Sometimes I can't believe people like this actually exist, what the fuck?

Ok_Instruction3816 · 2025-03-16T16:31:51+00:00

They want rape to be exclusive to them. Also they apply the case of "we are hot , you guys are creepy" so it's okay when we rape u because we are hot. In their own fantasy, even when a hot guy rape them it is okay.

WaveApprehensive3253 · 2025-03-17T08:41:29+00:00

What the f@&$???

mohyo324 · 2025-03-21T11:58:23+00:00

i think the comments here are not giving this the right reaction
this is ban worthy material and we should report this

that's not a joke at all

sebasgutisala · 2025-03-15T05:32:19+00:00

A male professor told me about his story about him getting touched everywhere and raped by a woman when he was blacked out when he was back in College years ago

pjourneyRB · 2025-03-15T17:44:02+00:00

I was groomed by a teacher throughout the school year when I was 13. She would always arrange for us to be alone somehow. I felt it was wrong so I just avoided her but she kept calling my house (mid 90’s so no cell phones) to talk. It was very weird and I’m glad it didn’t go anywhere past hugs and random touches.

everythingismeaning- · 2025-03-15T21:03:53+00:00

TBH it's a weird feeling. I slept with a teacher when I was 15, legal age of consent here is 16..I pursued her initially... now society will tell me that she raped me...this does not feel accurate at all to me, I lost my virginity to her and it's one of the most special memories I have of trysts with women.

Now the unattractive women who have groped me in public around the same age, that has always felt disgusting to me. I kinda feel like a victim of that even though at the time my friends said I should feel lucky for the attention.

This was all back in the early 00's so different time, different place (literally post 2012 imo). Not sure women can get away with groping children/teens in broad daylight anymore, which is a good thing.

ANobodyNamedJames · 2025-03-17T15:09:22+00:00

Unsurprising, especially given the reaction I was subjected to by professional services when I attempted to reach out over a decade ago. I can't comprehend lacking that much compassion.

Title	Never have I seen a more disgusting thread, only rape apologia and dehumanization.
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Date	March 14, 2025 8:26 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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It is concluded that feminist theory is contradicted by these findings and that the call for “qualitative” studies by feminists is really a means of avoiding this conclusion.