The global "male population problem". Apparently there's too many men in the world.

xNOM · 2014-10-07T00:26:27+00:00

Jesus that was awful. Too many young men without wives leads to "crime, unrest, and violence"? Does this have any basis in fact?

dungone · 2014-10-07T01:06:15+00:00

Too much men => Nazis. Got it.

How about this alternative - women not putting out as much as they should => Nazis.

This has got to be among the most specious, cherry-picked piece of correlation masquerading as causation I have ever seen in the financial press.

Dabaozi · 2014-10-07T03:20:10+00:00

There seems to be some outrage over this, but you can't simply deny the problem on the basis that it sounded slightly offensive. If we disregard the presentation or who was delivering it, there is still a core issue that is quite troublesome.

I'll focus on China, since that's an area I'm more familiar with. Due to the combination of Chinese traditionalism and the One Child Policy (itself a fascinating topic that brings a whole host of consequences besides the gender imablance), China is now facing a huge problem of men outnumbering women. In a culture where family is central (China has a very strong Confucian influence), not having the chance to get married is crushing and will definitely contribute to social and economic problems. Keep in mind, most men, especially in the countries like China, aren't too keen to go MGTOW or herbivore and give up on women and marriage. They want desperately to find a wife and have kids, and without that chance, it's hard to predict exactly what the consequences will be (but there will be large consequences that the I don't think anybody really wants to deal with).

On a side note, this gender imbalance in China has also had some very interesting consequences for women. As could be expected, due to the supply and demand differential the general expectations women have of prospective husbands has increased heavily, with the current standard being somewhere along the lines of "he has to have a car and a house before I'll consider marrying him" (no small feat in China). Less expected however (at least to westerners) were the changes the CCP made to divorce laws. Partially in response to women's increased demands of prospective husbands, and thus greater penchant for men being robbed of his pre-marriage house and belongings, as well as the heavily increasing divorce rate (women have more options to divorce and find another husband very quickly), the CCP started implementing "harsher" divorce laws, specifically making it harder for women to receive the husband's property and/or income in divorce proceedings. This of course was met with outrage by women's advocacy groups, who claimed it opened the doors for wives to be cast aside by their husbands for a "newer model," but it is certainly interesting to see how even though women could be considered in an "advantageous position" with regards to marriage, the government has seen fit to impose restrictions on what women can take from their husbands in a divorce, which of course must seem ludicrous to westerners, as the court system there is often heavily skewed in favor of the woman.

Anywho, got off on a tangent there. Bottom line, the gender imbalance is a problem, and while I doubt China is going to devolve into anarchy and rioting like some third-world backwater, there will most definitely be serious consequences.

Santaball · 2014-10-07T02:10:11+00:00

Wow, really. I am amazed at this. So what's the solution? Reduce the male population to 10 percent to be laborers and studs for breeding? Wow, a new low. I'm literally speechless.

mattx4810 · 2014-10-07T02:04:25+00:00

i thought there were currently more women than men in world? i heard it was like 51/49 last.

Flareprime · 2014-10-07T03:55:09+00:00

"Find wives." I hate that. All the choices are crap, I don't want one

yndypyndyntmyn · 2014-10-07T04:46:13+00:00

Maybe that is what feminism is all about. They're trying to drive more men to suicide with their insufferable bullshit in order to lower the "problematic" male population. At last, a final solution to the male question.

phengineer · 2014-10-07T08:42:11+00:00

I love it. Depending which feminist you ask, there are either too many men, or a serious lack of men for them to marry.

TRPACC · 2014-10-07T00:58:04+00:00

I feel uneasy about that.

Hope its just some sort of a one off and not going to be an agenda in the media.

Dickbag69 · 2014-10-07T05:17:42+00:00

some radfems say the male population should be kept at 10% for breeding and manual labor. i'm not sure how happy they'll be with their women's studies majors when there aren't enough men around to do the shitty dangerous work

librtee_com · 2014-10-07T04:08:26+00:00

Outrage isn't always warranted. Selective abortion is a real issue in some countries. This produces more women than men in society. This creates a class of men who can never find a partner. This creates problems. It's not exactly misandry at play here.

Gawrsh · 2014-10-07T06:12:17+00:00

http://www.care2.com/causes/its-a-girl-women-experience-gender-disappointment-for-boys.html

Seventy-one percent of families who use MicroSort want a daughter. For the Ericsson (method) the ratio of girl-to-boy requests is as high as two to one at licensed clinics.

Problem solved, at least for the people who think Nazis will rise with the presence of men, since it seems that not only do mothers want more girls, they are using methods to make sure they get more girls.

Of course another solution would be to maybe focus on helping those unemployed men find work instead of erasing the amount of men in the future, but who wants to do that, I guess, since it's men we're talking about.

AloysiusC · 2014-10-07T09:05:35+00:00

If society raised girls to be as useful/productive as boys, then it would sort itself out. Expecting only men to be workhorses obviously will make poor families prefer to have a boy over a girl - causing the very imbalances we see.

wlxr · 2014-10-07T03:23:34+00:00

Even with China being unbalanced, there are more women in the world than men?

Ciderglove · 2014-10-07T13:36:15+00:00

This does have basis in demographic fact. An overabundance of young men is never a good thing for the stability of a society.

prevolution · 2014-10-07T06:47:31+00:00

Isn't 51% of the world's population female?

WhiteThrone · 2014-10-07T07:44:47+00:00

The only thing missing was a call to exterminate the men as being Unter-Females. Seig Heil, Mein Furher-ess.

Yodude1 · 2014-10-08T21:17:33+00:00

NO. JUST NO. Nature rigs it. What do feminists think? We spliced genes in a lab and then forcefully injected it into women so that for every 100 women born, there are 106 men?

STOP. Men are more likely to die. And by age 60+, for every 100 women, there are only 87 men. How would you like it if we say THAT'S sexist?

Solesaver · 2014-10-07T05:20:51+00:00

I don't think this is a particularly unreasonable conclusion. Young, unattached, discontent men are more likely to foment revolution. Whether this is a "problem" per se is in the eyes of the beholder. That doesn't make it any less consistent with history, psychology, or biology.

Forgive me for lacking outrage at this analysis.

Gawrsh · 2014-10-07T16:30:55+00:00

Or, since this seems to be talking about men without jobs (as in the header is men and jobs) a possible solution might be to help those men find jobs rather than get rid of a bunch of them.

I mean even some of the posters here have an idea that men without women they've married to 'guide' them will run rampant.

But maybe the problem is more that of not being able to work, rather than 'needing a woman' to civilize them.

2014-10-07T09:33:08+00:00

If more men begets social revolution, that sounds like a winner to me.

Title	The global "male population problem". Apparently there's too many men in the world.
Author	marlospkm
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Date	October 6, 2014 11:21 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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