Kill the puppy?

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March 5, 2018

Massive beta blue piller for years, unplugged about a 16 months ago. Lift four times a week but still weak as fuck. Age 45, 179 lbs (down from 215), 5'11", lift four times a week. BP 5x165, DL 5x265, SQ 5x225, married 17 years, read everything in the sidebar and lots of posts.

As of 8 months ago we have sex whenever I want. Also, spontaneous, unprompted weekly BJ's and up until tonight the wife has said our relationship is the best it's ever been. Great dates, lots of fun, great sex, overall really enjoying the wife until tonight. Tonight, I think this woman may have a deep layer of rage or is just fucking crazy.

Working my plan. My stay plan is the same as my go plan.

Tonight we had a nice dinner on the patio with the kids (teenagers) until shit went sideways. I think she drank to much wine but who knows. At one point she accused the boys of being potential parent killers (think Mendez brothers). I shut that conversation line down as it upset the kids and was a shitty thing to say. I told the kids that isn't a possibility and their mom watches way to much news. I then excused the kids and changed the subject.

About ten minutes later we started discussing summer vacation and she brought up her desire to take a dog with us that pisses in the house. I said that's not going to happen and that I found the dog in a room earlier today that is off limits to it. I didn't know who left it but that room smells like piss now even though I couldn't find a spot. (I hate that dog and she knows it)

Wife then starts saying I get on to her to much and I wouldn't like it if she did the same. She then quoted me getting on to her about the potential shooter accusation and the dog pissing. Instead of deering I got up and started clearing the table and took some dishes to the kitchen.

Next part is seen by one of the boys....On my way out the kitchen door to get another round of dishes she blocks my way. I went around her so she grabbed my hoody (it was slightly chilly out) and yanked hard so it choked me. I turned around and brought my forearm down on her hands to break the grip and stop the choking and walked away. She threw a serving bowl at me and hit me in the back and then ran at me and started pulling on my hoody.

I broke her grip again and went to walk around her. She grabbed me again so I grabbed her hips and moved her to the side and started walking out of the yard towards the street. She once again started pulling on the hoody. I told her to let go and quit being a mean drunk. I would discuss things with her when she was sober. She kept attacking and pulling as I walked down the driveway. I finally let her have the hoody and walked down the street.

After walking a ways, I realized that she would probably do something shitty with my toothbrush and other personal items so I went back to the house and gathered that stuff up. (She keys cars when people cut her off or drive to close to her while she is cycling. My toothbrush to clean the toilet, etc. )

When walking out of the house after packing up my toiletries wife said "I'm done. I just need some money for a lawyer. "

I didn't reply. I just left for the hardware store to get some stuff for a home repair project and decided to type this.

We have three more years before the youngest will graduate high school. If we divorce the spousal support will make it so I can't keep the house and stay in the district. It's a great school district and I would like the kids to finish up there.

Any thoughts? I had hopes that this marriage had turned around but there seems to be a huge amount of pent up anger in my wife and a large dose of crazy.

I know I'm not perfect so advice will be appreciated.

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Title Kill the puppy?
Author tbicwtfh
Upvotes 12
Comments 95
Date 05 March 2018 03:04 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]fuckmrpRed Beret32 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

Bro you drove shirtless in the cold, to the hardware store, with your toothbrush. This kind of shit only happens around crazy bitches.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

fuck, now I have to read this thing... BRB

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is funny as hell!

I had a t-shirt on but my toothbrush, floss, and razor were on the passenger seat beside me. Thanks for the laugh. Or should I be crying right now?

[–]weakandsensitive8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy

16 month, fresh account, and in an abusive relationship where violence is accepted to a woman who keys cars.

fuck your standards are low.

i'd say this is a troll post, but it's too shitty for even that.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hit the nail on the hand, was scrolling to find out when someone was going to point out this is assault.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy


I've let her and many others treat me pretty bad over the years. Slowly dragging myself out of the garbage but I'm in deeper than I thought I was.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

see this is part of MRP

standards. what do you want ?

And, what do you find acceptable as treatment of you ?

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know why I haven't looked at this before today. I was focused on sex, fitness, body fat %, financial, not deering, etc. I need to go back through the sidebar with my standards in mind.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

It is not enough to suddenly establish standards and boundaries. One must be worthy of having those standards and boundaries respected.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

The biggest thing is coming to the realization standards cannot be met or qualified while on auto pilot

Roosh- "There is no growth in the comfort zone, and no comfort in the growth zone.”

Always gotta be working on being better @ all things, even making mixed drinks.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Funnily enough, having this exact sentiment with a flaired guy at the moment.

Everyons is so worried about scripting the life out that they underestimate their ability to improvise and thrive regardless

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Biggest part of the journey is to learn to go with the flow, at the moment, or not.

Being comfortable in ones skin, is so uncommon these days, I see more and more packs of men circle jerking the hell out of each other instead of relying upon their own thoughts.

The very ideal of where we stand today as a society, is not based upon our political system or the media, technology or the likes, but the horrific ideal of instant gratification and what it’s done to the central cortex.

Gone are days of putting in the work to gain experiences, grabbing hindsight or the like. Fuck, just google it.

Ugh. Fuck. Hey, bro - do you lift ?

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I know.

I like how the purple. Girl is putting it.

Flailing about

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know I'm not perfect so advice will be appreciated.

My only question, are you willfully ignorant? Or truly not understanding this whole situation? Do you actually have a way out, or do you want a pretty lie to hang your hat upon?

I will also say it's a great analogy in your post. That dog you hate, and refuse to deal with is pissing all through your house and breaking boundaries. Is that on purpose? Or do you not see that you have two dogs pissing in your house?

and FWIW, sober wife should be ashamed, and apologize in front of the kids for her behavior, and explain it while she does. Your first step here is to keep the kids from having a woman-complex because of their drunken psycho mom. Give that a try, then clean up the piss and stop sabotaging yourself.

[–]JudgeDoom695 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Tomorrow morning she will be hung over and apologetic as hell, if she even remembers what happened. You may need to remind her about her drunken violence in front of your children.

If you decide to keep her around, you'll need to set a firm boundary about drinking. She's a violent drunk and she can't handle her alcohol.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If we continue I'll put some alcohol boundaries in place. My other options are looking much more appealing right now.

[–]2ndalRed Beret4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

I was miserable in high school. My parents were always fighting. Always.

It was never physical between them fortunately. But they never attempted to hide it from me.

They fought constantly. Divorce was always threatened, particularly by my dad, with my mom shouting "please, stay for him [me]!"

Great. I was what was keeping them together, keeping this destructive behavior in the house. How's that for a fucking complex? I wanted the exact opposite.

I used to dream about them getting divorced. I loved spending time with each of them when they weren't together. I would dream about my dad finding an apartment somewhere that I could visit half the time or whatever. It sounded pretty nice.

I learned that this is how marriages were, that adult problems were solved by petty arguments and butt hurt stomping and yelling, tears, pleading, begging. Guess how I acted in my relationships and eventually in marriage?

I wish my parents had the strength to understand how destructive their behavior was to me as a kid, and make the right decision. The decision to either grow the fuck up and learn how to model appropriate behavior, or get divorced.

Fortunately I found this place and understood that it was my sole responsibility to build the type of relationship and marriage and family that I wanted.

I wish my dad would have done the same.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Thank you for your post. I fall on the other side due to my parents divorcing and the consequences of that divorce wrecking my brothers life.

[–]2ndalRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

think about the consequences of your marriage and how it is wrecking your kid's lives

[–]2ndalRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

btw i am not advocating you get divorced

i am advocating that you shit or get off the pot

want a normal marriage? great. that is your job to create it

want an amicable divorce? great. that is your job to create it

just fucking do something - either fix your marriage or get divorced. don't let things continue on the way they have been.

[–]creating_my_life6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Any thoughts?

I'd get the fuck out if it was me.

Strategically, she's fucking wacko. Find a lawyer, start getting video, and shoot for full custody to save your kids.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Agree. I'll speak to a lawyer this week and get a few camera's setup.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Add a pocket voice recorder to that.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Check with your local laws first, some states are two-party recordings.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Correct, but I'll add its better to be safe than sorry

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Only you can determine whether or not drunk violence is a boundary worth filing divorce over.

Honestly, you might want to talk to a attorney regardless. I have no experience where you're at, but it sounds like you are in serious danger for potential domestic violence charges. They might be false, but you should protect yourself regardless.

Also, she sounds crazy. I mean, really crazy. Sorry dude. Do what's best for yourself and your kids.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'll speak to a lawyer this week. It's time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How do you feel about wearing an ankle monitor? 95% of police officers will look for a reason to make you the aggressor in any domestic violence situation. This is a direct threat to your life and liberty, sir.

An ounce of violent crazy woman is all it takes for you to be staring down the barrel of a felony domestic violence charge.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Go is the new plan. I just need to figure out the kids. Lawyer visits are scheduled this week.

[–]FoxShitNasty830 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I feel for you and I know it's tough with kids but I hope you follow this through for both your and the kids sake. Start again and try not going for the crazy ones. By all means fuck them good but don't let them know where you live, or your real name or let them anywhere near your toothbrush.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have attracted crazy in the past. Usually the people you attract are attracted because there is something familiar or a weakness they can instinctively exploit. I don't think I'm nuts and know I was pretty weak.

After I figure this out, I've decided plates are it for me.

[–]RuleZeroDADRed Beret2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

Mmmmmm Hon, have you tried this new 'taint flavored toothpaste?

She had better be the best fuck ever, because your tolerance for High School crazy girlfriend bullshit borders on fiction.

As it is, no kids, GTFO.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Three kids, need to take it carefully.

I'm now thoroughly ashamed about how much I have put up with over the years. The fact that people think this is fiction or a troll makes me fucking sick. WTF have I been doing for the last year and half?!?! Obviously not MRP.

[–]RuleZeroDADRed Beret0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Remaining in the frame of a violent alcoholic definitely means you need to start from square one.

What attracted you to this mess? Are the three kids all yours?

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Great sex, knocked her up, got married, history.

The oldest are definitely mine. Look just like me. Since finding MRP and reading Rollo I have wondered about the youngest.

[–]RedPillCoach1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Great sex

Classic BPD tactic. They are like trap door spiders.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. Woke up to an amazing blow job after this fight. I saw it for the BPD trap it was.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

great sex at start, alcohol problems, can't regulate her own emotions.

This woman is a borderline personality disorder. Get out now.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I did a couple one on one calls with Athol Kay when I started this MRP journey. His diagnosis without actually talking to her was BPD. He also said if I get divorced it will be hell on earth before, during and after. He counseled waiting until the kids get out of school. No physical assaults were occurring at that point.

Reading "walking in egg shells" helped a lot with dealing with her as well as unplugging and getting rid of very strong oneitis.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You're in hell on earth anyway. Might as well end a bad marriage while you're going through hell.

This woman is going to try to murder you and/or the kids. Today it's drunk out of control violence. Tomorrow she'll pull a gun on you. Get out now.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. Plan is in progress.

[–]FlyingSexistPig1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy


Kill the puppy now. When she assaults you, call the police and say that you have been assaulted, then LEAVE the house, and tell them that you'll meet them somewhere to file the assault paperwork.

You need to get you and your kids out of that situation ASAP.

I have to ask. How did it get this far?

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It got this far because I was deep blue pill beta bux for many years. I thought my BP manners caused all the issues. And truthfully, the BP actions, excess weight and lack of ownership caused 95% of the problems.

[–]BobbyPeru1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

About ten minutes later we started discussing summer vacation

After what went down, you thought it was a good time to discuss vacation plans?

She keys cars when people cut her off or drive to close to her while she is cycling. My toothbrush to clean the toilet, etc.

Sounds like you stuck your disco in crazy a few hundred times.

Why would you want to stay with someone of this type of character? Forget the school district at this point - get yourself and your kids out of danger.

Your numbers are not that horrible for a 45 yr old who started 16 months ago. Maybe it’s time to exercise that go plan.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Vacation logistics seemed like a safe topic.

The passive aggressive car keying started in the last few years. I don't understand it and told her I'm not bailing her out if she gets thrown in jail for doing it. Key the right/wrong car and you get into $1000's in damage repair.

Sucks to throw in the towel after all this work. I have stayed this long because I was a beta bitch and figured my beta ways caused a lot of the prior insanity.

Daughter called while I was out and asked me to figure out how to stay in the school district if we get divorced. I'll start trying to figure something out.

[–]BobbyPeru1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Vacation logistics seemed like a safe topic.

Physically leaving was the best move

Sucks to throw in the towel after all this work

You did all you could. Ever heard of the sunk costs fallacy?

You have to protect your kids at this point. Keying cars is a symptom of deep issues.

I'll start trying to figure something out.

Good. Do what you can, but it shouldn’t be part of the stay/go decision

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are right. Thanks man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

First, you still believe that you can have a logical discussion with a woman. This seldom works.

Second, having a logical discussion with a drunk woman. Well, that's a double.

Sounds like you've been planning your divorce. Now you need to get your mindset straight, whether you stay or go.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This post and the responses are helping me see how much I put up with and allow to happen. Mindset straightening is started but I have a lot to do. Thanks.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You intrinsically knew to go rescue your tooth brush from this woman. The only people who would even think of that must be married to crazy.

If she's this vindictive, a divorce is going to be nuts.

Did you tip your hand and apply to much dread in a past exchange and she made these changes out of fear or obligation and now she's cracking?

I feel like there is more to the story. Also, has she poopbrushed any other people or do you just find pubes on your brush once a month?

Do tell.

[–]matrixtospartanatLVRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Have her tested for menopause.

Some of them go batshit crazy.

Full blood work-up.

No, it’s not an excuse. But a potential reason and will give you the impetus to lay down the law.

After that shit show I’d announce you are the proud new owner of a Burger King franchise and from now on you are having it your way, or she can GTFO.

And for the record, if YOU had behaved that way toward her, YOU would be in jail while she was seizing and liquidating your assets.

Life is too short.

I held onto the first wife for 6 non-fucking years....for the kids.

My only regret....

I wish I’d left the fucking cow 5 years sooner.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think menopause is at play here but there are deeper issues. I met with a friend this week that's known me a very long time and he confirmed that my crazy bitch radar was never installed.

I have to go very slowly and carefully here. The assault accusations everyone has mentioned are a real possibility. When I kick off the divorce I'll need camera's, voice recorders and who knows what else to make sure future made up charges can be proved false.

[–]RedPillCoach2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Any thoughts

Since you asked, I wouldn't get divorced just because you are not happy. That is feminine and what women do. A "family alpha would fix it.

Ample research shows that 70% of people in unhappy marriages who manage to stay together are happy 5 years later.

Also, kids in High School are a very difficult time. I have personally witnessed people getting divorced while the kids are in High School and it drives a wedge and destroys the relationship with the kids. They resent that their parents couldn't wait just a few years so they could finish High School and not spend those years trapped in Drama and Hell.

If you can send them an email in their first semester of college it is much easier on them.

I told her to let go and quit being a mean drunk. I would discuss things with her when she was sober. She kept attacking and pulling as I walked down the driveway. I finally let her have the hoody and walked down the street.

Get this on tape and protect yourself- especially the part about being a mean drunk! The domestic violence allegations will fall like rain if the divorce goes forward and this is golden evidence for any court that considers fault. Most No Fault States still consider "fault" in the division of assets and this will keep you out of jail. Make this a priority to get her assaulting you on audiotape or preferably videotape.

[–]fuckmrpRed Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

My gut tells me that 30% includes the people who shit dip toothbrushes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

4 out of 5 dentists recommend....

[–]WesternhagenWinner2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is beyond him not being happy. His wife is crazy, alcoholic, and violent. Accusing the kids of being potential killers right in front of them? Getting belligerently drunk and trying to yank him around? That shit is flat out not acceptable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. This is game over territory.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

My parents divorced when my brother was a freshman in high school. It royally fucked him up. Drugs, almost didn't graduate HS, no college, more drugs, prison, probation, more prison, and all kinds of other mess. I tried to help my mom but she babied the hell out of him and dad was around once a month. I've also seen lots of other kids lives go off the rails after divorce while in high school.

It seems so risky to eject now when I can possibly deal with a crazy ass woman for three years and eject when they get to college.

I'll get the cameras setup.

[–]stonewall19790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're missing the point. You need to call the police and report domestic violence, start a trail now, before she calls the police calling DV on you for knocking her hand off your hoodie. Cops don't care about who's right out wrong, just answering the call and protecting the victim who called first. Get Child Services involved since it was done in front of children. Find an attorney, a men's rights attorney, retain them quickly and Khan s for laws in your state about leaving or staying in your home, spousal support (with the police reported DV & Child protection services reports), if it's legal to record her with out her consent.

Lastly, you are not your dad or mom. What happened to your brother will not happen to your kid because you've seen it, know what to look for, and are aware of the danger. Get the kids in counseling now, preemptively. They'll be so much better off with you, in a good relationship, so you can properly look out for them.

[–]WesternhagenWinner0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My parents divorced when my brother was a freshman in high school. It royally fucked him up.

Before the divorce, was it a classic "high conflict" marriage (shouting, hitting, etc.) or a low-conflict "someone's not happy" marriage?

How old were you? How come the divorce didn't fuck you up royally?

My parents marriage was high-conflict, and their divorce when I was 5 fucked me up pretty good, mainly because my mom was a rage-filled, self-absorbed alpha widow who didn't have the first fucking clue how to raise a boy. Oh well!

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Low conflict. Mom got fat, Dad lost his job, mom harpies him, to gain back self respect he cheated with another woman. She kicked him out and cried to me and babied my brother.

I was 17 and had one foot out the door. Looking at my personal history, current post and the responses here, I think it did mess me up just in a different way. Low respect for myself, low self esteem, deep blue pill conditioning from both of them. I'm sure there is more there and my eyes are closed to it.

[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Everyone has givin you the advice you already need, but I got one more thing. My wife can become a real mess when she gets drunk. I have a firm boundary of only allowing her to drink beer.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the advice.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Brother, I guess you are so deep in it you cannot see how fucked up this situation is, or you have grown accustomed to it, which is just as wrong.

I am not going to rehash the good advice already dispensed here, just going to tell you to stand back and look at it from a distance. Hell, even the Bluepill brigade will tell you to leave her ass.

Make your plans, and execute them. If you do it over a period of 1 month or 3 years does not matter, just make your plans to exit this toxic relationship.

Best short term advice, AA meetings.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for the advice. You guys are helping me see how screwed up my situation really is.

[–]470_2_700_nm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t think your numbers are that bad.

I do think your wife is a crazy vindictive bitch, from what you have written.

I also think you need camera’s for documentation of her domestic violence. She may destroy you in court otherwise if it comes to that.

[–]WesternhagenWinner0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How do you even have a dog that pisses in the house? Huge failure of leadership there.

Why do you even have alcohol in your house given that you know she is a mean drunk? Huge failure of leadership there.

Get rid of the dog and the alcohol.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I haven't considered getting rid of the dog due to her strong feelings for it but it does show a clear lack of leadership and a deep level of weakness.

Mean drunk comes out to play every three to six months or so with super shitty shit tests and trying to pick fights. I can handle those like a ninja. This was a new level and why I posted. I see now that a leader would have said I more alcohol a long time ago.

A man that respected himself would have never gotten into this relationship and definitely would not have stayed.


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

File a police report and have her charged with assault. But if you can’t do that, at the very least, get rid of any alcohol in the house and don’t buy anymore. Maybe even kick her out of the house? I don’t know. She sounds like she’s hit the wall.

[–]Reach180Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"Everything was perfect until yesterday, when out of the blue my wife accused my kids of plotting our murder and threw dishes at me."

k. Are you just bullshitting us, or are you bullshitting yourself too?

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bullshitting myself. As I said above I knew I was climbing out of the garbage but I didn't realize how close to the bottom of the pile I was. I have a long way to go and eyes are opening wider.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

when you actually have an hour to yourself, re-read your post and ask what you could have done differently to keep the escalation from happening

Also, do you not see the disparity of "this is your life" and the dog in the house pissing everywhere and ruining it ? Is this for real ? Why are you allowing it ?

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thought a lot about this and reread the post multiple times over the past few days. That guy is such a weak bitch. I'm reworking the plan and mindset to build a stronger guy that actually knows what he wants, what his standards are, and how he will use the last few years of his life. I thought I did that before but I was fooling myself.

[–]Wulfwinterr0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Kill the puppy. When your wife tries to strangle you, and you have to guard your toothbrush to keep her from cleaning the toilet with it, it's time to gtfo.

By the way, she was strangling you with the hoodie repeatedly because she wanted you to hit her. Why? So she could use it in court to divorce-rape you. She's practically begging you to kill the puppy.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She told me to hit her during the shit storm. I declined but see the trap for what it was now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, kill that puppy. She is borderline psychopathic. She accuses your sons of being parent killers. She goes from weeping and crying that you get on her too much, to grabbing a hoody so hard it chokes you, you stop her, she keeps going, and throws a serving bowl at you and hits you with it. You're so concerned about her mental state you took your toothbrush with you when you left the house.

The puppy's dead. Bury it. See a lawyer today. fight like hell to get custody of your kids.

This is classic borderline personality disorder. She will ruin you and your children. you need to protect yourself and your children.

[–]mrpthrowa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

here is what you should do

get another place, call it a love nest or a man cave or whatever

go to it when you want, fuck other women

go to the first house whenever you want and see the kids

[–]gettingmymojobackRed Beret0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Here’s what I don’t get,

Why not just get the fuck out of there and buy a new toothbrush on your way back?

They’re worth what, like $4 bucks?

Your wife is acting like a complete psychopath and you’re worried about a toothbrush?

I smell troll. Something smells shitty and it’s not your toothbrush.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's a sonicare toothbrush. The toothbrush heads are expensive and so is the body. Razor is a Phillip's one blade so expensive head and body as well.

I think the situation is so fucked up you can't believe it's real.

[–]gettingmymojobackRed Beret2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

I’ve got the same toothbrush. $20 for new heads.

I wouldn’t be thinking about saving $20 while my wife is acting like a fucking lunatic.

If this is real, you’ve got bigger fish to fry than worrying about saving your toothbrush. Such as asking yourself why the fuck you are staying with a lunatic that puts your shit in the toilet?

Have some self respect man. She doesn’t respect you because you don’t respect yourself.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Have some self respect man. She doesn’t respect you because you don’t respect yourself.

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[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Agreed. I don't respect myself and probably never have. I thought I was making progress but I know now that I am a long way away from where I need to be.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You know the stages of knowledge, right? I think it goes something like this:

  1. First you don't know what you don't know.

  2. Then you don't know what you do know.

  3. Then you know what you don't know.

  4. Then you know what you know.

  5. Finally, you know what you know and don't know.

With this post you have reached level 3. Gratz.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks. I'll have to dig deeper into this. I think there may still be some level one stuff here.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

First, you are an idiot for not knowing your wives alcohol tolerance and the fact she is a mean drunk. I am sure this is not the first time you have seen her drunk. Your negligence allowed this whole thing to happen.

Second, I struggle to find a scenario where I would allow someone to physically hurt me, throw a glass bowl at me or choke me where they didn’t either get hit back, or I got in their face and made it clear that if they did it again, they would get hit.

Male or female. I don’t fucking care, its a hard line for me. You DO NOT hit people. Period. If you do, you are getting hit back. It is how I was raised, and how I raise my kids.

Gut punches don’t leave bruises.

[–]2ndalRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I hear you, but this is bad advice.

One gut punch in response and you lose any leverage in the divorce that seems very likely about to happen. Kids are watching, too.

GTFO seems like the exact right response to this specific situation.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy


But maybe the advice will help someone else. Point is, do not let someone develop a history of physical abuse.

Smash that shit on the first incident.

[–]2ndalRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]PersaeusRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep , you want to act like a man I will treat you like a man. Always has been always will be

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I was raised to never hit a woman. Deeply ingrained. It took everything I had to walk away and not lay her out. I think I would have spent the night in jail if I would have thrown that punch.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

And I was raised to let no person, ever physically disrespect you by hitting you, or causing physical harm.

If you are not man enough to get the point across you will hit someone - WITHOUT actually hitting them - then that is your source problem.

But, to each their own. I could argue that your logic is flawed from my point of view (and your personal experiences), but there is no point.

Hopefully you can figure out a way to get it worked out.

[–]tbicwtfh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You were raised better, no doubt about it.

I think the biggest part of this is I don't respect myself and allowed this shit to happen. Respecting myself is the way out and I'm starting to see that path.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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