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Should I cuck this guy?

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April 6, 2019

Was seeing this girl for about 6 months or so, she wanted commitment, I didn’t want to commit, ended things because I started for feel guilty for stringing her along even though I was pretty clear with my intentions.

A week or so after ending things shes still hitting me up for sex while at the same time posting stuff on her social media about the guy she’s with now (Instagram photos of dates and such) I know the guy and I honestly thought he was gay.

Anyways she tells me she hasn’t slept with him yet (wouldn’t matter if she did) but that she misses the sex with me, I can fuck her if I wanted. So basically should I let this girl have her beta boyfriend, who will go on dates with her and give her the commitment I wouldn’t, and keep hitting it on the side? Or just stay out of it? This isn’t a moral question more of a should I get myself involved in this drama question.

Anybody’s experience involving sleeping with girls with boyfriends, uncharted territory for me

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Title Should I cuck this guy?
Author Edg3head-41
Upvotes 71
Comments 146
Date 06 April 2019 12:32 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]FanaticMind72 points73 points  (14 children) | Copy

Bruh if she wanted to cheat already then she'll cheat anyways, if you care about the guy tell him. Although if he is enough of a beta he will let her get away.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don’t think I’d bother telling him, I would either just fuck her or not, if I’m not sleeping with her I have no skin in their affairs

[–]bitopansad36 points37 points  (3 children) | Copy

Naah, fuck it. Don't tell him. If you go tell him, his knee-jerk reaction would be to make you the bad guy and crucify you. Let him deal with her and her carousel when he comes to know about it. He'll be redpilled in no time when he'll see this story unfold in front of his eyes.

[–]LiftOrGTF07 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

He'll be redpilled in no time when he'll see this story unfold in front of his eyes.


[–]bitopansad1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe yes, maybe not. Either way, not his job.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

My thoughts exactly

[–]TitsAndWhiskey5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

By the time a girl starts bringing this shit up, she's already had more pipe laid into her than Alaska.

Do whatever the fuck you want to do. Dude is already cucked.

[–]Sonny_Luna0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

By the time a girl starts bringing this shit up, she's already had more pipe laid into her than Alaska.

Fear based thinking.

[–]FanaticMind-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Literally exactly what I said..

[–]TitsAndWhiskey0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Had already vs will

[–]FanaticMind0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You can't know, she might have something with op specifically.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In this particular case it does seem she wants me in particular not just any dick, I have been fucking her for 6 months and she’s been pressing for an LTR the whole time I’ve just been keeping her at an arms distance until I felt I couldn’t keep the plate spinning anymore and thought it was time to let it fall. She just so happened to find someone new rather fast and then continued to hit me up asking to come over or if she could

[–]failingtheturingtest-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Take your blue pill advice elsewhere. It's a great moral stand you think op should take, and is exactly the example of "how to make a decision that only has downsides"

[–]FanaticMind0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Take my comment and read it again smartass, I didn't even tell him what to do.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K1848 points49 points  (16 children) | Copy

Depends on a few factors. How is your abundance and other options? How much do you want to fuck her? How cool are you with fucking a dude's woman? (Though, if they haven't fucked yet, it probably isn't going to go too well).

For myself, it all depends on what suits me at the time. I have no problem fucking a woman with a 'boyfriend', especially if their thing isn't that serious or hasn't been that long.

There has been about half a dozen posts on here in the last month or so, with this exact same pattern. Girl is fucking the Alpha. Girl wants the Alpha. Alpha shows he won't commit. Girl and Alpha both next. Girl finds a beta to quickly LTR her. Girl realises she really wants the Alpha dick. Girls hits Alpha up again.

I think the girl always wanted the Alpha dick. She leaves, because society and her pre-frontal cortex tell her she should demand commitment and respect. Doesn't happen, so she fulfills that conditioning by grabbing the Beta to get the LTR. Her hindbrain and instincts win out, though, as her primal desires scream 'JUST FUCK THE ALPHA, PLEASE!'.

This is a short-timed boomerang. As women do, they TRY to run on what their brain says, but eventually primal feels win out. I never really take their interim beta boyfriend seriously. He doesn't realise he's just part of her emotions sorting themselves out. If she doesn't fuck you, she'll be branch-swinging from that dude asap, anyway.

It's her awakening to the fact that bluepill is a lie, and she'd rather non-committed alpha cock.

If you do fuck, don't feel bad. She's unconsciously rejecting her own blue-pill and discovering the alpha cock carousel and hypergamy is more fulfilling.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

My abundance is pretty solid at the moment, I’ve hooked up with 4 girls since ending things with her, and I had girls when I was with her obvious hence not wanting to commit. In terms of the dude that doesn’t bother me, he’s doing the lame shit with her I wouldn’t (like go and watch her practices and such) so I mean he seems like your prototypical blue pill chump. In terms of it not going well, she says that she thinks she scares him which would make sense to me because from much of what I hear about the guy everyone thinks he’s gay. I could go without fucking her, but her place is on the way home to mine so it makes for a convenient lay. It wouldn’t hurt to have as an option. I thank you for your answer, it’s seems to reaffirm what I was thinking.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K1813 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

From all you've said, she'll be swinging in no time flat. You're the nearest alpha she has, so you're her safest option.

Just get in, get out, and let her deal with Billy.

If you want to hit it, there is no reason not to. If it were me, I'd be gaming and creating more options. But when I just need the release in the mean time, looks like I'd be taking a little longer to get home.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think this simply comes down to what you believe is right or wrong in your gut. Based off my personal experiences and values, I'd likely pass on this one to avoid causing this dude unnecessary hurt (assuming they're actually dating?). I'd let some other dude do that, especially since you got other girls to fuck with. But again, that's my view -- what's yours?

[–]bestsparkyalive4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Now this comment is fucking awesome.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Glad you're able to get something out of it.

[–]pridebrah1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

There has been about half a dozen posts on here in the last month or so, with this exact same pattern. Girl is fucking the Alpha. Girl wants the Alpha. Alpha shows he won't commit. Girl and Alpha both next. Girl finds a beta to quickly LTR her. Girl realises she really wants the Alpha dick. Girls hits Alpha up again.

Yep. I posted one of those threads a few months back and you actually posted a reply. For a quick refresher, my LTR cheated on me with a beta after I wouldn't marry and then trashed him and came back wanting to fuck me. Now she's trying to stay away (from sex with me) to 'protect her feelings' while talking to another beta. The kicker is she will occasionally text me about how she misses our former sex together including a couple weeks back when she said she woke up horny and masturbated to the thought of us fucking. She's been radio silent for a bit now, so we'll see if she comes back around wanting sex again eventually.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think I remember that one. Was it you who private msgd me about it?

Yeah, it's a really prominent pattern. I look at it in a few ways.

1) Women trying hard to reconcile and resolve their emotions. Wanting to resolve the need for long term commitment. Often doing what society/parents/friends say to do. Grab that beta LTR.

2)Women running on deeper biological,emotional and psychological motivations.

3)Women, in their own way, rejecting the Blue Pill. Many won't gain self awareness like a male would. They lack the ability for real self reflection. Ultimately, every part of them says 'I want that fucking alpha'. They run on it, and most just say 'I'm confused'.

It's complete red pill proved positive. Women want dominance. Women want a strong man who puts himself first. It's in her subconscious, and manifests once she gets a taste.

Women can't override base primal desire the same as a man.

If feminists and society on a whole recognised this, this game would be much better. Women would be aware of and admit their nature and desires, and we would be teaching men to be leading and dominant. We'd be teaching strong, healthy masculinity. We'd be in accordance with nature.

So many are miserable because we're told not to be human.

I digress, but this pattern is women coming to terms with Red Pill. The smart ones will embrace it.

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This explains a lot of mixed signals from some girls.

Both for those trying to advocate a "beta strategy" and those who advocate an "alpha strategy". Both of them experience the same sort of "hot girl who can't make up her mind and conflicted between instincts and rationalizing" situation.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K181 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, and the difference with being red pilled is you can gain an ability to take an objective step back and understand what is happening without being emotionally invested.

She just do'n what girls do. They have their process of rejecting the blue pill, too. They just aren't as aware, and they do it from an emotional drive.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very good stuff ^

[–]Throwaway_Acc28 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

Any dude that identifies as an alpha has never got even close to a pussy 😂 This shit is hilarious

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I agree. Gotta dumb it down to suit the Red Pill lingo.

I think the term Alpha totally missed the mark with what Rollo was trying to get at.

Most dudes on this sub are trying to work out how to get over a oneitis, yet alone being able to handle broader definitions of a strong, healthy male.

[–]Throwaway_Acc28 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

I think their whole alpha/beta talk promotes toxic masculinity and kinda objectifies women. So it's pretty sad to see people use that kinda lingo.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I see your point. I agree with the use of Alpha not being the best term. I don't agree with 'toxic masculinity', though. I'd go off topic, but I think toxic masculinity is a bad term in general, because I don't think masculinity is toxic, or can be toxic. The issues that appear as 'toxic masculinity' are other core issues.

It's why I like No More Mr Nice Guy. It doesn't go into 'alpha' bullshit. It goes into a deeper exploration of a strong, healthy male. More comprehensive than a lot of guy's superficial understanding of Red Pill and Alpha.

I just use it on this sub, because most younger guys aren't ready to go deeper.

By the right man, though, women love being objectified.

[–]Throwaway_Acc28 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Toxic masculinity for me is men criticizing one another for liking usually feminine things and forcing each other to go do "masculine" stuff. Or calling each other pussies and other insulting terms for being sensitive/in touch with their emotions, etc. Even no more mr nice guy mentality is pointless to me. Any generalizations like that is imo shitty and useless in the real world with real people.

Nah, maybe some might enjoy adding it into the foreplay and making it seem like she's objectified but I can tell you firsthand women don't like men treating them like a piece of meat outside the bedroom.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The book 'No More Mr Nice Guy'. Not a mentality

[–]Brownbearjeww11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy

Am I the only person seeing this to be very rhetorical? I feel OP knows what he wants to do already.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

Like I said I was interested in hearing others opinions and experiences, I have decided nothing at the moment

[–]Brownbearjeww2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That’s totally fine, if I were seriously asked this by a close friend, I would tell them to either commit or back off. The girl seems to want connection with someone, and you’re in her spotlight right now. There isn’t anything wrong with you doing what makes you happy tho.

[–]xddm2653-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wym, this girl is getting all her commitment from this other guy, and still able to fuck OP's shredded cock. Shes the biggest winner out of the 3

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

You can let the beta know the truth, without having to sacrifice your pleasure of sex. That is the honorable thing to do.

[–]xddm2653-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

No it's not. Their relationship isn't your business. The honorable thing to do is deliver 7 inches of steel to a vagina that requests it

[–]EvolvedVirus-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

No that would be the very definition of the dishonorable thing. The honorable thing is to make their relationship your business because you know more about it than the guy does.

Dishonor at its core involves deception, you're being honest and delivering dick.

[–]xddm2653-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nosy much? No relationship is your damn business unless it's yours. You sound like the friend that tries to dictate everybody's love life

[–]EvolvedVirus1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What in the word? Are you on drugs or something why are you being protective of a girl and whiteknighting a girl you don't know so that she can deceive some random guy? It's quite bizarre you don't even know the girl, why are you protecting her deception and dishonor?

Watching the world idly and passively is not alpha, it's pacifism and fear. There are very select few motivations for stabbing someone in the back (the poor beta getting deceived; or because you're whiteknighting the girl). Cowardice is dangerous.

Now if the beta is an asshole, that's a different story, screwing him over is great. We are men, we're not parasites trying to screw each other over (unless they did something to deserve it).

[–]xddm26531 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not sure how its whiteknighting more than letting people live however they want. If anything, "honor" is a whiteknight concept. Like what the fuck does it really mean? Why does your code of morals impose over her way of life?

I dont believe in relationships so. If a guy wants to fuck as many girls as possible, or a girl wants 2 guys to fulfill 2 different needs, I see no problem.

[–]boy_named_su6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck her if you wanna, but never LTR this cheating whore

If you have true abundance though, you could just hit up single bitches

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol well duh, she had too many red flags before this which I why I never committed before. And as much as I agree with your statement of abundance, this girl would be for convenience sake. For example if plates flake or are busy I could literally just stop in at her place on the way home. She wouldn’t be a high priority item

[–]failingtheturingtest5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck me this comment thread is full of Blue Pill moral spouting, autists and zero fucking actionable advice.

What is the goal here?

Spending a little more effort you would have her replaced, so consider your question to be "why THIS girl instead of the next girl?"

A) they are not dating. It's plausible he's her gay friend who's going places with her and she's using him to bait you. Otherwise, he's an orbiter that she's agreed to go to places with so she can use him to bait you. Either way, it's simply bait to APPEAR like she's not trying to get you to commit anymore. What will be her next bait for her next agenda? "You don't need to use a condom baby, I'm on the pill"

B) regardless off the fallout, this is inviting drama. Is her pussy worth the drama? She's 100% lying to you and/or him. She's trying to manipulate you and him. So even if nothing goes wrong, you're already lining up to fuck a known manipulator. Is that worth some pussy?

Any effort spent trying to hide this, make excuses, arrange secret fuck sessions, etc. would be better placed just cultivating more/other plates.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is a lot of truth to your points especially that she might be trying to manipulate me to get me back 100% that’s in her wheelhouse. However, the only effort I would ever be exerting on this girl would be responding to her texts to fuck with “come over” I would not reach out to her, I have other women already and other prospects to develop they are my priority. Sex with her would only occur at a convenience to me, on my schedule, if I don’t have any other girls available. And I always use condoms I even go as far as rinsing them out 😂

[–]_Anarchon_68 points69 points  (7 children) | Copy

Why are you asking nerds on the internet if you should fuck a girl?

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 55 points56 points  (3 children) | Copy

More or less asking to hearing peoples experiences seems like a rather reasonable thing to do. Most people gather data and make an informed decisions

[–]2000ber19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm with you. Nice response

[–]EvolvedVirus4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have the power, you have the best of both worlds.

First you can tell the boyfriend all about it, in a nicely, carefully worded letter (preferably anonymous) that won't allow him to tell/confront the girl (it might make the beta dump the girl or look towards other girls).

Continue fucking her. Because you know what, you should enjoy life and if she is willing to cheat on this boyfriend, then this boyfriend should not continue life-with-her. She's just not worth it.

You're teaching both the guy and the girl an important lesson.

It is the moral thing to do: fuck her, teach them both lessons, educate the beta, make it clear in an honest way to her (as you already did) that you don't want commitment.

And what the fuck is commitment anyway? Marriage license signed by state authorities or just being loyal to one girl? Look how loyal she is to her beta boyfriend...

The only way you can be more generous is to somehow convince her to do a threesome.

[–]An_Actual_Politician0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No moralizing here. Only way I'd say to pump the brakes would be if this other guy has a violent side. If he does and he finds out, thats 'beef on sight' mode for the foreseeable future.

Doesn't sound like he's anyone you'd need to worry about from the limited information you've provided.

[–]Ryabemo13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was seriously looking for this comment

[–]DexiAntoniu 1 points [recovered]  (18 children) | Copy

Don't do it man. There's a thing that gets tabooed in this community: the understanding that the ultimate alpha state is one of morality. Don't take part consciously in something that will hurt another person if you don't need to.

You're only bringing hurt to another human being for something which you've decided is not worth pursuing. If you're willing to do that for a bit of action, you're a beta bitch with no options. Pure hedonism is not the pursue of true, virtuous men.

Go on with your life, feel good because you've done good.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

I don’t disagree with you. Like I said part of the reason I stopped seeing her was because I felt like I was stringing her along. She wanted commitment and I wasn’t going to give it. With that said though. If she wants to fuck and I do aswell and she’s getting her emotional needs met, then why not (playing devils advocate) she’s clearly not too serious with this guy yet it’s only been a week or so. Besides she’s the cheater not me. I do appreciate your feedback

[–]DexiAntoniu19 points20 points  (6 children) | Copy

You will participate in the hurting of the other guy. If you're ok with that, then I don't see any reason not to hook up with her from your perspective.

To me it wouldn't be worth it. Opportunities for sex are everywhere, and hurting another person for a specific girl I've already decided I don't need, that's just not me.

That's all the input I have, lol. Have a great one!

[–]empatheticapathetic-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

Redpilling the other guy is a bad thing?

[–]eaazzy_137 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

Showing the other guy undeniable proof (like a screenshot of her propositioning OP for sex) would be redpilling him. Smashing his bitch is ruthless

[–]empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think it’s the other way around.

People have to learn this shit by experiencing it. Telling them and warning them isn’t enough as we all know.

[–]eaazzy_130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

He did experience it. His “girlfriend” is actively trying to fuck someone else. What else does he need to experience? I wouldn’t tell the guy personally since they aren’t very serious, but it’s definitely enough to show him whatsup.

[–]empatheticapathetic3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

He’s not aware of it right? So how has he experienced anything?

[–]xddm26530 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its been a week lmao

[–]illusiveab9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sexual selection is objectively amoral, any man who attaches principle to it is free to determine his fate as far as reason is concerned. I think many truly alpha men would avoid this situation with fair abundance owing to the unnecessary complications it might create.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Don't take part consciously in something that will hurt another person if you don't need to.

Why not?

I'm not even going to justify it, claiming to be doing the guy a favor by "redpilling him" or whatever.

I want to have sex with her. So it hurts another guy, why exactly is that my problem?

There's a thing that gets tabooed in this community: the understanding that the ultimate alpha state is one of morality.

Pure hedonism is not the pursue of true, virtuous men.

"Taboo" isn't the right word; nothing here is strictly off limits unless it violates reddit's ToS. However, the discussion on TRP is amoral, since any particular individual's moral code isn't generally relevant.

Specifically, claiming that hedonism isn't the goal of a "virtuous" man is off topic, because the definition of "virtue" is ambiguous, if someone even wants to be a "true, virtuous man" at all.

Should we start writing articles on how to be a pious Christian too? Or maybe we can ask the mods to pin a post about the road to becoming an Imam.

[–]sandal_on0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Virtuous means simply that one does good, treats others they way deserve and is not a hypocrite (aka 90% of this subreddit) which is counterproductive leader trait.

"Ambiguous", yeah classic western rhetoric to turn good words into useless since they are cucked beyond reasoning.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ambiguous in the sense that it cannot be quantified. If you are going to shit test me you should have the courtesy of putting on a pair of heels and a dress.

treats others they way deserve

No one deserves to get treated like anything. You get what you get.

It's more productive to consider how you can incentivize others to behave in a way you want rather than to demand it as a right.

[–]sandal_on0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I assume you're influenced as most here by western thinking, that any opinion is valid and there's no right or wrong after the removal of bible. That includes that definitions are different by different standards (good, bad).

Opposed to the western foundation, there's good, there's bad, there's invalid and valid opinions according to pure logic.

I'm not opposing however your last statement since it is true.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's a thing that gets tabooed in this community: the understanding that the ultimate alpha state is one of morality. Don't take part consciously in something that will hurt another person if you don't need to.

Lol what?

[–]satanicpriest134 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah cuck him. But look out for yourself. Record conversations etc. Don't wanna be getting those false rape charges.

[–]dealsleds1 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

It sounds like you’re more into her than you are leading on in this post. Otherwise you wouldn’t have made this post. Hard next her, no contact before you get oneitis

[–]E9er1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

would you look at that.. OP is butthurt. shocker who knew their egos are insecure. that’s why they need this alpha crap. worser than a woman. pathetic, can’t accept he’s in her frame... tool

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not at all, but you have your opinion, I’m just saying I see a lot of people on here just parrot back redpill ideology. They shout AWALT or ONEITIS, but they offer no explanation or examination, which offers nothing to the post, they simply autistically shout out verbiage. If he had some reasoning to support his claim of oneitis I might be more willing to listen to it as a possibility of what’s going on here.

[–]dealsleds1 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

You come on here claiming to be of superior intelligence than I by breaking down my comment when you yourself failed to read and/or respond to the entirety of it. You shout that I’m “a parrot” but completely ignored the statement I conveyed. Looks like you are butthurt by the truth I spouted, or you’re just a shitty ass person for responding with offensive slurs as your defense mechanism. Kindly fuck off, douchebag, this sub isn’t for you. You are not ready.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m sorry what part of your point did I not address? I could do that now for you if you’d like. I don’t recall claiming higher intelligence than you, if this is you trying to be the better man and walking away you should have done it without the insult in return.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

There is always one autistic that spouts ONEITIS like a red pill parrot

[–]FinancialFeed 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

OP no lie this comment makes you look like an ass and completely throws your credibility out the window. Grow up. Are you sure you’re ready for TRP?

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve been around these forums for quite sometime, and like I said it’s a common occurrence for someone to spout off “ONEITIS” with no examination whatsoever, it’s not a catch all phrase like I see a lot of people use it as. Like in this example, the mere act of making a post about a girl means you have oneitis for her? No that’s not how it works

[–]0io-3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you're friends with the beta guy you should have sex with the girl (assuming you like having sex with her.) It's not your job to help some random beta get laid, and he's not paying you anything and would probably get upset if you tried to red-pill him. If she wanted sex with him she'd be having sex with him and not you. She wants you not him.

If you're not going to have sex with any girl who has some guy who likes her but can't get laid... you're making most of the desirable women on the planet off limits to yourself and getting nothing in return.

[–]RedLegendx5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Boyfriend? What’s that?

[–]0io-7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's no cuckoldry without marriage anyway. If this beta guy was her husband, you could think twice about it. Some random guy who "loves her" that she's not even fucking? Lol don't even think twice. Hit it. She was never his or it wouldn't even be coming up. For every beautiful girl there's 100 lonely guys who dream that they're her boyfriend.

[–]UziNidalee6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Definitely. I actually prefer that a girl has her beta cause I've no time to lay around and cuddle and chat shit. Bang with no strings attached fuck her like you own her and he can give her emotional support all he wants

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

That was my thinking, I couldn’t give her those things and it made me feel a little guilty. Now that my role would be just the guy fucking her I think that would work out much better for me

[–]cornylamygilbert0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ya I think the dude might be as gay as you suspect.

the fact that you know anything about her instagram is already in opposition to your ability to remain blissfully ignorant of her personal life and totally damns any plausible deniability that would serve you going forward with this chick.

Digest, pump and dump and pursue new goals. No need to acknowledge her drama

[–]Obnoxiousjimmyjames2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I was the “other man” once. The sex was mind blowing. The fallout was horrific. As awesome as it was fucking her, I wouldn’t put myself in that position again.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

These are the types of experience answers I was looking for, thank you

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[–]Ivabighairy12 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The ride is over. Go ride something else.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well said

[–]screechhater2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just fuck her.

You literally could die tomorrow.

MRP/TRP is ammoral. Enjoy your life.

[–]ChadTheWaiter1002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you don’t do it somebody else will

[–]CaptainBW2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

“Abundance mentality” you faggot. You’re asking this forum if you should involve yourself in drama...just for some old pussy? Ridiculous. No wonder you don’t want to discuss the morality of it all anyway, seeing as your soul is presently lost and confused.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was asking this forum what their experience was in situations like these, perhaps the title was confusing but the post makes that clear. And in terms of morality we can discuss it, but this is not the place for morality, if I’m not mistaken this forum believes sexual strategy is amoral. and yes abundance mentality, why throw away good pussy, I’m single and she’s willing, why not. I always leave the door for plates to come back into my life which is why girls will hit you up years later if you ended on good terms and you left them with a good taste in their mouth. It’s not like I’m chasing this girl, she’s messaging me, she’s offering to come see me, I’m just supplying her with what she wants. It’s no effort to me, I can and still am gaming other girls, so besides alittle bit of my time what’s the harm

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its simple do YOU feel its okay to cuck a guy? If yes do it. If not then no leave it. Drama means nothing

[–]furcryingoutloud1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you're in a relationship with the guy, how do you consider this to be cucking him? If you fuck his girlfriend, isn't she the one doing the cucking?

For me, you have the makings of a perfectly healthy relationship with this plate. Healthy for you. It's a shared responsibility situation. Buddy there gives her the shit you don't care to look after and you give her what you really want to be giving her. Win Win.

Just discourage her from telling him.

[–]Whatdoin271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Someone summed this up correctly already.

"He doesn't realize that he's just a part of her emotions sorting themselves out."

[–]keelo441 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is right up my alley, I fuck women in relationships all the time.

If you aren’t friends with her boyfriend then it’s fair game. Just don’t get too disrespectful with it because you never know what a hurt man could potentially do in the mix of sudden emotion.

I see it as you doing the guy a favor, the bitch ain’t worth a damn anyway & it’s not like she didn’t ask for it.

Just ask yourself if the pros outweigh the cons in this situation (is her sex worth “potential” drama?)

[–]rpsheepdog3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well by definition if you get her pregnant and then let him raise your kid then you are cucking him...

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fair enough but you get the point

[–]rpsheepdog4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, i know what you're saying, I'd say tread with caution, make sure he isn't the kind of guy who will hunt you down for "her honor" or something and try to cause personal damage to you.

[–]dani0981 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. Please update


[–]bruiser181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that’s what I’d do, disregard the beta and keep hitting it.

[–]Stretch_Defcon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't share girls bro, even if it's emotionally

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why do you care what we think? Do you care what the other guy thinks is the real question. Or if you actually have a shot with this broad.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wasn’t searching for approval I’m looking for other people’s experiences in a similar situation to see if I should consider it. Just gathering information, maybe I titled the thread poorly but it got peoples attention and responses, so it served its purpose.

[–]richarddbuckley40 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Depends how fit she is

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This guys asking the real questions ahaha

[–]DREADC0RSAIR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on how desperate you are. I personally wanted to back off on the drama inducing antics. If you don't care about him and you wouldn't mind her turning around and doing that to you then why not? As long as fucking her is that much of a benefit to you.

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why stay involved with a hoe like that if you know the guy

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t really “know” him I know of him, he’s a guy at my work, but a different department and completely unconnected to me. He’s not a friend or buddy or anything like that

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If a hot girl wants to find a lover, she'll find a lover, might as well be you

You could always let him know later, esp if you can do so without it leading to you

[–]Planner_Hammish0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If she's gonna cheat, she may as well cheat with you. Just don't catch feelings.

[–]jenovajunkie0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Never felt right to me, but think of it like this: if it's not you, it'll be someone else who doesn't care as much as you.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

So you’re saying shes better off sleeping with me?

[–]jenovajunkie1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im saying that she is a cheater, the fact that it's with you doesn't matter.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You may if you have other options too. But if she's your only source of sex then don't waste time

[–]BillBundyBishop0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dont do it.

You've already had your fun with her.

Go meet another girl.

[–]tchower 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

I used to fuck a girl with a boyfriend, she was pretty hot and probably the hottest girl I’ve been with, a solid 10+, but when I started catching feelings I cut her off because it was a bad situation to be in with drama, not as much drama as the boyfriend has to deal with though paying her rent. She basically lied about not having a boyfriend, but when she confessed it to me she still wanted to keep fucking but only gave head after she told me so I cut her off after that.

If you don’t catch feelings you can keep doing it because the boyfriend is usually enough of a beta that he won’t care or break up with her. Just don’t catch any feelings or get too attached would be my best advice because I’ve been in this situation before.

[–]pridebrah2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

but when she confessed it to me she still wanted to keep fucking but only gave head

lol...the logic these hoes apply.

[–]tchower0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Lol...There’s even more to the story. She wanted to go back to being a Christian girl again and wanted a Christian relationship with only head, fingering and making out.

[–]pridebrah1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

lmao I don't even know man. I've heard shit like this since high school (knew a girl that only did anal to save her pussy for and I'm still amazed every time I hear the retarded 'boundaries' women come up with so they don't feel like whores.

[–]tchower1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Funny thing is, she had just turned 25 when I met her and I just turned 24. I thought woman matured out of that mentality but I was very wrong obviously. When she told me bout her boyfriend, supposedly he was about to put a ring on her but she’s not ready. It’s crazy these days.

[–]Sonny_Luna0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly, if he is actually gay and using her as a beard, fucking her would be the best for all three of you.

Either way, do it for the experience. Fucking other men's women is taboo and exciting. The novelty fades fast, which is probably a good thing, but try it.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pump, get nudes, send to him.

Win for both of you.

[–]ishitonyoursynth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One day, perhaps in 5 years or so, someone will stab you in a dark alley and you will never know why. Be careful kiddo.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Were it me, I would fuck her.

Guy hasn't fucked her yet? You aren't cucking anybody. Looks like a fag? When people show you who they are...

[–]curious_historian0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Show him the messages and change his life around.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Anybody who’s tried to red pill someone knows it’s not that simple

[–]curious_historian-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

True. But it's a start that won't lead to inceldom.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It doesn't work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This. We men need to start sticking together and lifting each other up. Restoring the patriarchy is noble. "Enjoying the collapse" is nihilistic thinking.

[–]That_Deaf_Guy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's cool and all, but 80% of men are fucking feminine. If he's getting cucked already, I probably wouldn't bother.

[–]indianajonesindiana0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

LOL, she's setting you up. Go ahead and take the bait and watch her claim that you can't move on or that you're harassing her.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Possible yet unlikely since she sent me videos of herself masturbating last night

[–]indianajonesindiana-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

SO what? You and 5 other dudes who think they're her "main man" for sex got the same videos bro. Getting dumped by or breaking up with an alpha and immediately rebounding with the complete opposite with a beta is textbook crazy girl and or hoe behavior. She's playing all of you while feeding her narcissistic ego.

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you are a girls number one option you normally can tell, in this particular case, I believe i am. An no doubt she jumped to this guy because she needed comfort and validation after me ending things with her, I understand that. And all girls are crazy lol, Sure I could be feeding her ego but if I’m getting laid what does it matter

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just fuck a different girl, why invite drama? Let her lay in the bed she made.

[–]flaviotothe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just fuck her

[–]Avskygod0 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Do you want to?

TRP is amoral due to the fact it's merely a tool. What you do is up to you my friend. You don't have a moral center so eroded you are confused, no?

[–]Edg3head-41[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do I want to fuck her? Yea sure why not? But do I want to be the guy that fucks this guys girl, even though she wants me? I’m not sure, which is why I haven’t done it yet. And yes if I don’t do it I’m sure someone else will

[–]_Legendairy_ 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Ethically, just get her to break up with him if you wanna have sex with her.

[–]Protocol_Apollo1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why? She wants a relationship and OP won’t give her it. That would be lose-lose for her, she’s loses a bf and won’t get one via OP

[–]Edg3head-41[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This guy gets it^

[–]resnine-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why are you dealing with this thot? screw her if you want but I wouldn't. FTOW.

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