"Don't get married at 23, be selfish, cut your hair, get tattoos and ride, ride, ride that cock carousel!"

DavidTIntellectual · 2014-01-08T18:25:32+00:00

Hangout naked in front of a window.

Then get pissed off when the CREEEEEEEEEEEPY unattractive males ~~look at you~~ rape you with their eyes.

johnnight · 2014-01-08T19:00:50+00:00

I want to see a male version of this on RoK:

11. Promise to marry two 29 year old women at once, drag it out until they are 31 and see how long it takes to blow up in your face.

;)

Savun · 2014-01-08T19:00:30+00:00

Upvoting because I love me some slutty hot 23yr old tatted up women.

I don't plan on marriage (maybe kids) so whatever promotes women becoming complete whores is good for me.

What a time we live in! Instead of asking Mary-sue to be my gal, meeting her parents and maybe get some boob-action on make out point I can instead get my dick sucked by slutty tatted Naomi in a bathroom.

I think an empty jar of Nutella might just make me hard from now on.

Love sluts, slutty slut whore ho sluts.

FUCK I LOVE SLUTS!

Hipster sluts, Geek girl sluts, Born-again sluts, Farmgirl sluts, Milf sluts, Goth sluts, Emo sluts, feminazi sluts, pseudo intellectual sluts, former head cheerleader from high school who just messaged me on Facebook wanting to meet for drinks on friday because she hit the wall and is looking for a stable guy except I'm going to pump and dump her short blonde tight ass sluts.

If slutty women were potato chips they would be pringles, so much variety.

Sluts, just the thought of easy pussy gets me going.

Be Strong! Be Independent! Be Sluts!

2014-01-08T18:38:37+00:00

Eat. Sleep. Hamster. Repeat. Eat. Sleep. Hamster. Repeat.

fruitofmyloom · 2014-01-08T19:49:24+00:00

I NEED to develop MY dreams and MYSELF before I can truly be the type of woman you WANT to marry.

See, this is the problem. Women think men actually care about this shit. If you're so focused on yourself in your 20s, how in the world do we know if you're ever going to focus on the family we create?

Answer: you're not.

widec · 2014-01-08T19:38:24+00:00

This is hilarious.

No man they would actually want would ever take this deal. Because those men can get a better one elsewhere. The only men that will take it are ones that these women never wanted in the first place.

And the thing is, it would work if they didn't go so extreme. Only a handful of women on this planet are still good looking enough at 30 to get the kind of men they want -- and they all look like porn stars. However, most women could get away with doing this in college and then settling down almost immediately after. They'd still have enough of their 'prime' years left to make the deal acceptable to most men.

But do they do that? Fuck no. They run themselves into the ground until they don't have a single option left that won't make them gag.

Edit: To say, there is a reason Kim Kardashian can act like she does. She looks like she does. She has those eyes, those lips and dear god, those fucking tits. Most women don't even have one of those features. But they all act like they have her options.

2014-01-08T19:51:08+00:00

The great thing is that the comments section is filled with people bashing the author and the article for what it is, a sad anti-marriage list.

The author, Vanessa Elizabeth, is a travelling blogger.

Just another hamster trying to validate her own choices through confirmation bias.

Good old soliopsism. Nothing to see here, move along.

Kepaso · 2014-01-08T21:23:54+00:00

Explore a new religion.

wtf

deepthrill · 2014-01-08T19:20:35+00:00

Get a tattoo. It's more permanent than a marriage.

At the risk of revealing a lot of weakness, I feel like I'm having a tiny little panic attack whenever I read things like this. Like a little part of my soul just freaked out and exploded, and now I'm just a little bit emptier than I was before.

The whole article ranges from funny to slightly disturbing, but this one got to me a bit, mostly because I can't argue with it; I hate tattoos, and, while this might not be a popular opinion here, there is nothing I want more than a traditional marriage. And I know I'll never have it, not in this country.

In the 50's, most women were married by 23 (mean marriage age ~21, IIRC,) and in the 2010's, most 23 year-olds have been sucking various dicks for nearly a decade. This bothers me, but there's no solution in sight.

I know the prevailing philosophy here is that a man like myself, young, fit, high-t, gainfully employed, breddy gool, &c. &c. &c. should be out fucking as many nasty young sluts as I want to, but I don't want to do that anymore. In fact, I feel dirtier knowing that I have. I just want to get married and have kids, and this one thing that's so basic, the one thing that has driven the life of nearly every man throughout history, is so far out of reach.

I'm becoming really disillusioned. I personally know guys younger than me who have already been put through the divorce-court wringer, false accusations, alimony slavery. Mainstream media outlets are advising young women -the people I'm supposed to start a family with- to

Disappoint your parents.

to

Date two people at once and see how long it takes to blow up in your face.

and to

Make out with a stranger.

I just don't know what to do anymore; I really don't. This kind of thing makes the world seem so hopeless; but then, the world makes the world seem hopeless.

I might have to unsubscribe from here; I'm not sure this community is doing me any more good. It helped me by leaps and bounds when I first found it; now I just feel so jaded.

Jeez, this just turned into a rant/mopefest. I'm gonna post it. No sense wasting heartfelt writing.

mrpoopistan · 2014-01-08T20:38:27+00:00

Get a tattoo. It's more permanent than a marriage.

Doesn't this just amount to everything that's wrong with modern womenhood?

redpillhead · 2014-01-09T00:49:50+00:00

At least one person gets it.

To each her own, BUT here's a factoid: I achieved every personal and professional goal I set for myself AND got married at 23 (about 50 years before I thought I would). Didn't have my first child until I was an exec and will celebrate 22 years of marriage in July...happily married (most days). So, live YOUR life and let others live theirs. When I made the pros and cons list of accepting the proposal, one of the things I asked myself was, "if I don't marry this man who meets all of my current and projected needs and I see him in the store 10 years from now and he's married to someone that in retrospect I wish was me, would putting off marriage for some imaginary maturity date be worth the loss of happiness?" For me, the answer was "no" and, as a child of divorce, I felt that if I was wrong in saying yes, that could be remedied. I did the only 11 things on your list I'd ever want to (single or married) and I did them while married to a man who would not be available to me had I waited until you or others thought it would be acceptable.

DirtyD27 · 2014-01-08T21:49:28+00:00

Just skimming through a few paragraphs:
22 years old, never been in a serious relationship.
Why the fuck would anyone take any advice from this girl?

nivek7913 · 2014-01-08T18:53:45+00:00

I was talking about this to my friends. There are two girls we know who are total sluts. Over 20 guys each and younger than 21, getting fingerblasted in clubs, etc. They both got a boyfriend since a couple of months ago - and both are deadly afraid of their boyfriends finding out about their slutty past. It's absolutely disgusting. These guys are total beta idiot provider types who buy them gifts and shit. That's why I can't take commitment seriously anymore. If I am to marry a chick, how am I supposed to know she's not been had by 40 plus guys? It's disgusting.

lurkinginplainsight · 2014-01-08T19:07:33+00:00

20,000 likes on facebook. Amazing.

2014-01-08T19:45:11+00:00

Oh man is she in for a surprise. Shes gonna hit that wall so hard a frying pan will be more attractive. I will go to the Philippines though because their women are better imho.

Necromaze · 2014-01-08T18:23:44+00:00

Holy christ this is disgusting. Eat a jar of Nutella (no self control lol), make out with a stranger, get a passport (so you can fuck 10 guys in one vacation), get a tattoo (all classy girls I know have them), date two guys at once until it blows up in your face (be a dishonest whore who takes advantage of men) - sound advice.

PlanB_pedofile · 2014-01-09T03:13:59+00:00

Straight out of the coments

but others are ready and willing to make sacrifices because they have found a life companion. I am still in search of mine, and well over 30,

Gee.... I wonder what went wrong

Archwinger · 2014-01-08T18:56:57+00:00

Articles like this are just more entitlement. Men are guilty of this one, too. The generation currently hitting their early 20s has an entitlement problem.

They think they're entitled to a life of fun, excitement, and adventure. That anybody who would do the normal, accepted, productive things with their life at 23 is a stupid loser -- you need to continue that party you started in college, travel random places using your parents' money, have meaningless sex with relative strangers, eat, drink, be merry, and worry about that whole being a grown-up thing later, even though you finished puberty years ago, have a college degree, and really ought to get a job and start thinking seriously about your future.

Bah! You can worry about your future when it's here. What do you mean you're having trouble finding a mate, a regular job, or taking care of yourself because you never learned basic adulthood survival skills? People don't just hand you the normal life you passed up 10 years ago when you're ready?

nivek7913 · 2014-01-08T20:37:30+00:00

We really need more flair, because this isn't blue pill. We need a hamster flair, that's all this is.

2014-01-08T22:16:56+00:00

This was written by someone that felt jealous everyone was getting married except. She's basically writing to herself in order to not feel bad about being single.

insideman83 · 2014-01-09T01:30:12+00:00

TL;DR - Become a low value woman.

Live by the vag, you can die by it too.

2014-01-08T20:27:00+00:00

Or … ’23 things I do because no one will date me seriously’.

2014-01-08T21:47:13+00:00

This sounds dangerously similar to what my old high school acquaintance, who because a drug addict, used to say to me. "Hey, let's smoke some weed, we're still young! Live a little! When you graduate college, you won't be able to do drugs any more! Let's get blackout drunk over the weekend, you have to try it at least once!" And then of course they go to the peer pressure technique of implying you are a lesser person with statements like the one from the article of "Millennials deserve the opportunity to develop ourselves, alone", as if you are not developing yourself if you don't listen to the advice (typically it's in the manner of "Make up your own mind, don't listen to your parents", even though you are giving your answer). Now, 10 years has passed since high school and that acquaintance bounced around between minimum wage jobs and is constantly doing drugs. No surprise at all.

Most of the things on that list can be done while you are in a relationship or while you are married. The ones that can't be done are all self destructive, and would lead to the partner leaving because nobody wants to have kids with a self destructive person.

Everybody actually knows how to get six pack abs (eat well and exercise) or how to become a multi-millionaire (learn marketable skills, earn money, save, invest). It really comes down to mental toughness and the ability to execute your game plan. It's really easy to go to the gym after work. But can you do it for 2 weeks in a row? What about for 1 year? It's easy to eat clean and healthy for one meal. But what about every meal for a week, a month, or a year? It is really about executing a series of very simple tasks over and over again, hundreds or thousands of times. Very few people can do it, suddenly the 50th time becomes unbearable and they give up. But it is hard to write this up as an advice column, because nobody wants to read it. People want to read about the miracle, happy/fun solution to life, which is really just snake oil. It doesn't work and it'll likely make things worse.

jacobman · 2014-01-09T01:27:14+00:00

I NEED to develop MY dreams and MYSELF before I can truly be the type of woman you WANT to marry.

I don't think she understands guys...

If it's real, that person will continue to be committed to you two months from now, two years from now, and two decades from now.

Yeah... because people love to be in a relationship with someone who rejected them and slept around with a bunch of other people instead for years.

2014-01-09T07:53:07+00:00

This is clickbait. Move along. It is low hanging fruit of the huffpo variety. 30 year old women write this shit to feel better about their poor life decisions. There is no equivalent (why you should get married in your 20s) because the women who chose to do this don't seek validation enough to bother with arguing on the internet.

Vidofnir · 2014-01-09T00:14:12+00:00

A lot of whiners ITT. These women are exactly the kind I like to spin: carefree and easy, and I have no problems with this level of behavior. The only thing remotely objectionable in the article was "dating two men at once", and as already pointed out, only betas would be worried about that. Alpha males will be dating several women themselves.

Isn't the point of TRP to free your sense of self-worth and identity from being tied to women and "what women want"? Getting bent out of shape because a woman wants to fuck around while young is blue-pill: you're still upset over how women "should" behave.

OKJaded · 2014-01-08T20:37:32+00:00

Bring me your tattood up, used up, sluts. I've accepted TRP. To me it's not something I'm going to fight. Instead I will adapt to get the most out of it. Will I ever be loved in the way I want to be loved? It's an impracticle impossibility. Now stuff like this just gets me excited for a new wave carousel riders.

Step right up and hop right on.

RRBeachFG2 · 2014-01-09T03:07:39+00:00

some classic lines here:

Should I be thinking about marriage? I've never even had a serious boy friend? Is there something wrong with me? WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME AND WHY HAS NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT IT FOR ALL THESE YEARS!?

But then I look at my life, my relationships, and my future... and I realize that, I'm fucking awesome. It literally isn't me, it's them.

haahaha

DaedalusFinch · 2014-01-09T13:54:20+00:00

Okay I've had a few litres of red wine (dat metric system) and after reading this I'm just Ernest Hemingway levels of mad. Why? Because this, this kind of thinking and advice, is what's going to lead my friends down the road to being alone for the rest of their lives.

Half the advice is about letting yourself go, living without discipline or a code of any sort and the other half is about being so arrogant as to be proud of eating a ridiculous amount of shitty food in one sitting. Where's the part where she tells you to figure out if you're okay with being married at 23, or being married at all? Where's the part where she advises you to ask you mentors and peers for advice before making such crucial decisions? There isn't one.

I'm 19 right now and yes, I do one day want to get married. Maybe I'll do it before 23, because I understand (unlike the writer of this article) that one day we all need to grow up and you can start now and get a head-start in building a life and a family and making sure that you're the man to raise a child 3 years before it happens or you can wake up one day and realise that you've spent your 20's building nothing.

It hurts to see the people you love make mistakes like the ones she's advocating. Most of them don't deserve it and almost all of them don't know why and won't ever really learn.

Yes a lot of TRPers are going to give me shit for this (because I'm too young to know better or whatnot) but hey, I'm drunk. Which is why I can't stick with a 2nd or 3rd person argument format.

End rant.

EDIT : Paragraphs are important.

thro_way · 2014-01-08T23:49:10+00:00

My post will be burried, but I have to write it anyways... I'm getting closer and closer to my 30th birthday, I feel better now than I have felt for years before, its mainly because I'm well on my way in my carrier (still improving!) and also its gonna be 2 years mark of me going to gym (and it shows quite a bit). Few weeks ago a freshly single older women told me "Why are you acting so child-like? You have a mortgage and great job, why do you do all that crazy shit?!?", at first I kinda laughed, because I know she wanted to turn me to be a good beta-fucking-provider, at second thought I still think the same, but now I know my SMV is raising like shit, 2 years ago she would just let everything I did slide, because I was no one, now ... so what do I want, I want to alter the list from OP post to Red Pill men closing to their 30, BECAUSE WE (as man) SHOULD HAVE FUN TOO!

Get a passport. --Travel, enjoy the world, know dofferent culters so you don't marry a washed up stretched up cunt of feminazi
Find your "thing." --Get better in your carrier and hobbies
Make out with a stranger. --Have one night stands (use condoms!)
Adopt a pet. --Learn responsibility
~~Start a band~~. --Find your tribe of man
~~Make a cake. Make a second cake. Have your cake and eat it too.~~ ---Learn how to cook and learn it well
Get a tattoo. It's more permanent than a marriage. --Get tattoo only if it is timeless design, have it from good tattoo artist --Have a prenup or don't get married
~~Explore a new religion.~~ --Explore new philosophy
Start a small business. --Learn how to run a small business and then try on your own
Cut your hair. --at good barber shop or stylist, wearn clean, stylish dress.
~~Date two people at once and see how long it takes to blow up in your face~~. --Don't be an asshole, if you want to spin plates, don't lie to them.
Build something with your hands. --take on useful skill or hobby, this doesn't include minecraft.
~~Accomplish a Pinterest project.~~ --pathetic
~~Join the Peace Corps.~~ --see 22 and 1
Disappoint your parents. --Do not conform to their pressure on you to marry and have kids, otherwise be the son they can be proud of!
~~Watch Girls, over and over again~~. --Read books, lots and lots of them.
~~Eat a jar of Nutella in one sitting.~~ --Get on Keto
~~Make strangers feel uncomfortable in public places.~~ --Try to be more outgoing
Sign up for CrossFit. --Agree, plus Martial Art/Self Defense
~~Hangout naked in front of a window.~~ --No, you do NOT have a pussypass.
~~Write your feelings down in a blog.~~ --Share your feelings with your best friend, sibling or parents, NEVER in text form.
Be selfish. --Yes
~~Come with me to the Philippines for Chinese New Year.~~ --Don't travel with a women to a foreign country, enjoy it on your own.

IllimitableMan · 2014-01-09T04:13:41+00:00

Written by a hamster, for a hamster. Hamsters - because pet food needs selling.

AlmostRP · 2014-01-09T09:27:33+00:00

Date two people at once and see how long it takes to blow up in your face.

Make out with a stranger.

Yep. This list is stupid.

rapreaper · 2014-01-08T18:30:17+00:00

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Title	"Don't get married at 23, be selfish, cut your hair, get tattoos and ride, ride, ride that cock carousel!"
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Date	January 8, 2014 6:15 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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