Men are validated most from being valued for how they look.

William_Howe · 2019-07-02T20:50:31+00:00

Incel content, removed.

Aaren_Augustine · 2019-07-02T19:37:01+00:00

Being valued for looks is just one source of validation. And yeah I guess it's a pretty strong one.

stephcurryftw · 2019-07-02T19:09:50+00:00

The pinnacle of human achievement: getting something you want with little to no effort.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-07-02T19:23:01+00:00

awesome incel whine

wtknight · 2019-07-02T19:19:36+00:00

This is like saying that women would rather have sex with a perfectly constructed statue of a man with a metal penis than an actual man. Of course personality matters. Looks are just what gets a man in the door. They don’t close the deal. A woman would rather be with a plainly attractive guy with charm than a super attractive man who is a whiny sniveler.

Orange_Paisley · 2019-07-02T19:26:49+00:00

I've always been more validated for people telling me that I'm smart than that I'm pretty so I guess my parents raised me wrong.

goneaway2thewind · 2019-07-02T19:55:25+00:00

The peak male experience is actually having a woman loyal to you and reciprocates the effort and love you give.

Gave up on that dream a long time ago

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Tyler_Gatsby · 2019-07-02T19:57:24+00:00

Being a good looking man who gets flirted with and doesn't have to learn game or do anything to improve his attractiveness is the peak male experience.

Not imo. Imo the peak male experience is either she makes you believe that you you really may be the best lover she's ever had, or getting a woman off to the point she can't handle anymore.

You get a woman off to her max, she looks at you differently, in a figurative and literal sense. There's a level of apprehension there, or intimidation when she looks at you and thinks of sex. It's like how people look at roller coasters, or jumping off a high dive. There is nothing manlier feeling than owning that ass in the bedroom.

diffdedbed · 2019-07-02T20:22:37+00:00

In short, men are validated by being capable of having casual sex with hot women, and if you're not hot yourself that's impossible.

Lol, I'm not hot, I'm very average outside of not being fat. (fat is average these days).

I might not be able to snap my fingers and get 10's but I've had my share. I don't have to fuck all the women in the world, just some of them is good enough.

I don't get this crying by men over this. We all can't be hot, almost by definition. Its ok.

Here is my sexual validation. When you stick your fingers in in foreplay and shes already super wet, she's turned on. She can't really fake that one, shes into it, congrats! I'm not super hot, I've had very hot women that way for me.

Your experiences may vary.

statusincorporated · 2019-07-02T20:26:51+00:00

In short, men are validated by being capable of having casual sex with hot women, and if you're not hot yourself that's impossible

Lol yeah, if you want to have casual sex with 8's on the regular, you pretty much have to be a male 10 --- at least in her eyes.

Personally, IDGAF about validation of my looks. When I'm single I just want to get laid and pull. Whatever means to that end is whatever.

Maybe not every guy can be a male 10, but every guy can take himself up by 2-3 points by lifting and losing bodyfat.

And I never said impossible. Let's say being physically attractive explains 85% of the variance in men of getting casual sex. That's a .92 correlation. That means on average you'll do better than 96% of men in getting casual sex.

Let's be simple and say the other 15% is explained by personality.

That's a .38 correlation. If your personality is better than 98% of guys...you'll do better than like 77% of men in the casual sex arena. To get to the same level as being very physically attractive, you need to have a personality that is just...overwhelming...

We're talking Charles Manson, Jim Jones charisma here.

That's why it's useless to talk about for the most part. But if you lift and work on your personality...your results will improve. They just won't improve that much from your work on personality.

Being a good looking man who gets flirted with and doesn't have to learn game or do anything to improve his attractiveness is the peak male experience.

No, AINEC. If you're any bit intelligent you'll get bored of casual sex pretty fast when it becomes easy.

You'll move on to the next thing: love, i.e. relationship skills.

Women aren't going to casual sex with you forever. Some will do it longer than others, but generally 1-4 months is around the time they'll start saying 'look dude, are you going to be my bf or not.'

The peak male experience is taking what you've been given and forging something better.

pnadlerlaw · 2019-07-02T20:43:57+00:00

I agree with this, except to say that it’s easy or that men don’t do nothing.

I wouldn’t say drinking 3.5 liters of water per day, being fat adapted and on a ketogenic diet, doing a 5/2 fast and then defaulting to a 20-4 fast as your normal mode of living, periodization 3 days a week, 5x5 3 days a week, HIIT, restricted blood flow training, increasing your grip strength, and paying for quality free range eggs and chicken, wild salmon, and avocados (all while saying no to cheesecake, bagel with cream cheese, ice cream, chocolate, milk shakes, dairy in general, and alcohol) is ... “don’t do nothing” or “don’t even try” or “easy.”

You have to have the money to pay to be and stay BIG, and you have to have the time to train. That means you’re at a certain level of living and lifestyle. So, in a way, a man’s body “is” a proxy for a lot of things, “including” socioeconomic status.

Everything else is just BS by attractive women who feel ashamed for some reason to simply just say they like fucking hot guys (maybe b/c it would ruin their back-up plan if shit hits the fan and they need to settle with an average guy), or unattractive women (so they don’t mess up their chances with average guys).

Women want to be fucked by a man. Not a Senior Vice President of ABC Bank. Not the Chief Technology Officer at Megahard. Not some fat orange fuck that owns real estate. They want to be fucked by a 6’ beefy smooth-skinned dark and handsome dude with a beard, abs, and thick veins on his forearms. They want to get that feeling in their body when they see him. They want to feel like a woman. They want to feel physically overpowered by his masculine presence.

Men want to feel invited and welcomed, women want to feel dominated and overpowered.

So, validation about a man’s physicality probably is more of a compliment to a man than how smart he is, how handsome his face is, how well he dresses, how funny he is, how “generous” he is, etc.

rus9384 · 2019-07-02T20:59:38+00:00

women will stonewall you for a 10/10 if you're looking for hookups no matter how much game you have.

False. Full stop.

katymarx · 2019-07-02T19:44:40+00:00

Are you that same incel with a different username posting the same garbage? Literally everyone has told you repeatedly that looks are important but it's the hot guy w game who gets the fux, not necessarily the hottest.

kurwajebanamac · 2019-07-02T19:11:58+00:00

Is this a premise, a discussion or a CMV?

WhatIsTheMeaningHere · 2019-07-02T19:12:58+00:00

Nah, imagine being good looking and then some women is bored during sex with you

Sexual prowess and big dick > all.

WhatIsTheMeaningHere · 2019-07-02T19:25:40+00:00

I have a feeling that a lot of men's anger towards women comes from their inherent accessability to sex without having game, without proving their worth, and without playing a horrible numbers game. Which is kinda what OP is describing.

Here4thebeer3232 · 2019-07-02T19:36:04+00:00

Being validated for your apperance is not that impressive. It certainly is nice to have your looks complemented dont get me wrong. But comments about things I have no control over affect me less than things I do have control over. Like, "congrats on the face" isnt going to validate me as much as complimenting my choice in outfit or actions.

But in terms of validation, I've literally had conversations and discussions that were more validating than casual sex. One is skin deep and with a stranger, the other is deeper and about who I actually am as a person.

iceicle999 · 2019-07-02T19:08:20+00:00

Yes. But even the pro-women people sometimes do not want to admit this, preferring to see sex as some sort of cosmic empowering voodoo bullshit thing. Men want to fuck, men want to be wanted, bonus points if the women are hot. Nothing else to it, holy shit.

[deleted] · 2019-07-02T19:36:05+00:00

Having power over other men is most validating thing in universe

Title	Men are validated most from being valued for how they look.
Author	WhatIsTheMeaningHere
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Date	July 2, 2019 7:04 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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