CMV: Slut-shaming also exists because women insist on being considered morally superior

cxj · 2016-08-08T18:08:08+00:00

Most "sluts" are anorgasmic fakers with some degree of borderline traits who love attention. Out of promiscuous women, there are more train wrecks than "Samantha's" in real life. I'm not saying these women should be stoned in some defunct soccer stadium, but denying their real motivations in favor "sex-positivity" is often a disservice to them... ultimately we are encouraging them to act out their attachment problems in hyper drive. The result this schizophrenic dissonance wherein we KNOW these girlfriends aren't actually enjoying this sex, we KNOW they'll be reenacting their abandonment schemas again, we KNOW they'll be crying about it to us for weeks on end. Yet we SAY "you go girl" because to do otherwise would be incredibly insulting to them.

Blue pill types don't like saying this because to them it counts as slut-shaming, and it comes across as an attempt to regulate female sexuality. And they're not wrong, female sexuality isn't shameful and we have no right to judge other women based on their sexuality. Also, legitimately high-sex drive women do exist, even if they are outliers even among promiscuous women. The net consequences of their sexuality on their emotional state relative to the actual sexual satisfaction they receive, on the other hand...
Red Pill men hate acknowledging this because these women are usually their bread and butter and they want to believe these women enjoy this sex, and/or that they somehow "won" it from them. Even if they don't want to commit to these women, their ego is still not comfortable with how meaningless they are to these women.... just a prop in mental model they are replaying over and over, not the subject of lustful attraction.
Red Pill women will sometimes acknowledge but often won't because. 1) Some consider themselves reformed "sluts" and want to paint their born again innocence as a containment of lust, rather than something they were performing for men without benefit and decided to stop. 2) Resisting lust is considered a virtue in the traditional framework, and (unlike Red Pill men) their perception of virtue is one of their motivating factors.

haikufun · 2016-08-08T17:37:35+00:00

Just guessing, but promoting a world where men are judged on how much sex they get and a world where women are judged on how little sex they give away is probably amusing some asshole somewhere. I personally don't care who does the shaming or promoting but this is a recipe for some meta amusement.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-08-08T18:23:18+00:00

women slut shame women because sluts and promiscuous women are the debased coinage of the sexual marketplace, causing sexual inflation and threatening the pussy cartel

DrunkGirl69 · 2016-08-08T17:52:33+00:00

It's MEN that create these images of women being more moral and pure because that's what they want to believe about women. Women say what's expected of them about their sexuality because the consequences of perceived degeneracy are great.

jintana · 2016-08-08T18:14:51+00:00

They want to be seen as the more civilized, virtuous gender that doesn't see sex as an urge but as some kind of spirtual, cherished experience bestowed upon a special man of virtue.

Yeah. I'm a woman and I don't want that.

But sure as shit, RELIGION in society teaches exactly that.

naturally incites irritation in men

You don't know how men naturally feel; you know how YOU naturally feel. And you are totally within your power to change the belief that a woman sleeping with someone who is not you is a bad one.

BiggerDthanYou · 2016-08-08T17:50:25+00:00

This may be true, but those that fight against slut shaming are also those that want to be able to be just as primitive and superficial as men without being shamed for having sex with hot guys just for the sake of having sex.

You are making the mistake of throwing all women into a single bucket. The women that engage in slut shaming aren't the same as those that fight against slut shaming. Those that shame don't see their personal facade crumble, but shame because the "sluts" aren't as virtuous as them. Just like someone that has been told that drugs are like super dangerous will shame others for taking drugs, but that doesn't mean that they are secretly taking drugs.

And today when women slut shame it's mostly a shorthand for "she cheated on him" or "she had sex with a married man" and not "she had casual sex once" anymore.

Men take this image pretty seriously. Breaking with it, by being a slut namely, naturally incites irritation in men

Men that grew up in a slut shaming environment are like that, but that's not true for guys that didn't grew up in the bible belt.

It's not something that is naturally in them. It's learned; otherwise there wouldn't be cultural differences.

[deleted] · 2016-08-08T22:12:36+00:00

I disagree, a lot of women today find nothing morally reprehensible about being a slut.

wombatinaburrow · 2016-08-09T05:12:18+00:00

Wow. I haven't come across that kind of puritanical bullshit since I bailed on the church.

anitapk · 2016-08-08T17:24:20+00:00

Nah, because I don't want it to become socially accepted for a young secretary to try and snatch my man, and because I don't want my future daughter to have to offer anal on the first date to get the attention of her man.

edit: adding that women not only enjoy sex a lot, but they also use it as a powerful tool, which makes it twice as "dangerous"

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digbybare · 2016-08-09T00:07:50+00:00

I think everyone likes to think of themselves as special and superior.

When anyone gets to attached to one thing/group to define their identity (be it their gender, their hobby, their religion, etc.), that desire naturally extends to thinking that that group of people are inherently superior.

It's not unique to women, and it's not unique to gender identity.

fivesixone561 · 2016-08-09T05:21:44+00:00

That may very well be true, but why is promiscuity seen as uncivilized, even though in many advanced civilizations, such as Ancient Greece, sexual promiscuity was very common?

Mentathiel · 2016-08-09T13:46:12+00:00

Being a slut lowers your SMV and especially lowers your RMV. Slut shaming exists to disencourage slutty behavior because it's damaging and peer pressure to be a slut exists in order to lower other women to your level or bellow you. It has nothing to do with feeling superior or inferior to men, it's simply about being superior and inferior to each other.

[deleted] · 2016-08-09T15:31:18+00:00

I don't believe this is the case. Slut-shaming exists because a woman who sleeps with many men has poor judgement, since the biological reason for female low sex drive is to ensure she is picky and makes the right choice to get a child with the best genes. Modern day "sluts" probably get off not by sex but by feeling wanted. It's like they want validation that they are hot.

Title	CMV: Slut-shaming also exists because women insist on being considered morally superior
Author	Ultramegasaurus
Upvotes	21
Comments	75
Date	August 8, 2016 5:19 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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