QFTRP: Why are single mothers vilified on TRP for choosing the wrong mate, but divorce raped men aren't?

buttlollipop · 2015-09-18T00:27:46+00:00

1) Men don't have the choice to abort the baby

2) Copypasta from my reply when you said this in the other thread: all TRP did here is reverse the stereotypes of wider society, which is that single mothers are heroes but single dads are deadbeats.

NightwingTRP · 2015-09-18T00:30:29+00:00

Because divorced men don't get money from my taxes to help them through their fuck up.

dragoness_leclerq · 2015-09-18T00:46:03+00:00

Look, if the divorce system was as ridiculously lopsided in favour of men as it is women, then I'm sure plenty of men would exploit it, just as women do.

I would never vilify all single mothers & haven't come across anyone else who would. That seems bizarre

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-09-18T01:16:10+00:00

I don't know what trp has been saying, but a single mother is a woman who chooses to carry children to term without being married or I guess today without at least being significantly involved with the father (living together LTR "marriage-lite"). A divorcee is a divorcee and a widow Is widow.

It is the deliberate single mom who is scum. Divorcees are probably scum, and widows aren't scum unless they killed their husband

Are single moms vilified for "choosing the wrong man"? I have not seen this in the man o sphere , I've seen this sort of analysis of them in the man o sphere

snbdmliss · 2015-09-18T06:33:56+00:00

Seriously! Why aren't TRP men given more grief for choosing shitty women? They choose these shitty woman, they know they are shitty women, ignore neon red flags all over the place, and then they are actually surprised when they act like shitty women?!? Ugh.

[deleted] · 2015-09-18T12:44:53+00:00

Divorce raped men are blamed for their part; but you have to understand a few things.

Most men making their way to TRP had not been previously trained to find red flags or look for green flags. That's changed over the past 10 years as more and more info is getting out about TRP and about women's mating tactics.
Women are very, very good at concealing their mating strategies. Women have been known to lie, and lie convincingly, about their attraction to a man to rope and deceive him into a marriage. In much the same way a man will show provisioning or will lie about willingness to commit in order to get sex, a woman will lie about her attraction to a man and will have sex with men she wouldn't otherwise, in order to get commitment. A woman can confuse even herself at believing she's attracted to a man when in fact she's not, or she's experiencing some other emotion (desperation, baby rabies, hopes of finding a husband around the same time as her friends are) as attraction.

Both of these are decreasing (or so it appears to me) as the lies are being exposed.

dragoness_leclerq · 2015-09-18T02:23:27+00:00

Because, for some odd reason, single mothers are always portrayed as women who carried an "oops baby" to term against the "father's" (likely some mere fling) wishes and/or with a man she knew wasn't going to stick around.

Meanwhile men who are "divorced raped" are portrayed as noble, loving husbands who simply fell victim to unscrupulous former sluts who were just looking to take everything they earned, steal their children from them and hop back on the CC.

You'll notice, in both scenarios, men are somehow the victims and women are "evil".

[deleted] · 2015-09-18T00:28:02+00:00

They only care about double standards when it comes to feminism .

OlBastard · 2015-09-18T00:44:21+00:00

Aside from the obvious disparity in reproductive rights, single mothers are a subset of women. Women are the focus of TRP. I'm not planning on banging a single father.

[deleted] · 2015-09-18T13:02:02+00:00

Well the woman has zero responsibility and EVERY chance to turn back.

She's not held responsible for anything. Her consent to sex IS NOT consent to motherhood. She can abort, use BC (which men do not have access to and is opposed by feminists for some off reason), and when it's born, she will be given all the money she needs to live and housing. Oh and if she gets sick of it, at ANY time she can just give it up for adoption.

Yet for the man, he has ONE orgasm. And it's his consent to 21 years of financial servitude in which up to 68% of his income can be stolen from him. From one orgasm, that may not have resulted in sex. Even if there was spermjacking and deliberate fraudulent activity, under the guise of "for the children" is used to rob him. He had no say in the matter. No mention of the mother who brought a child into the world, had no means to care for it, and every chance to turn back and STILL has the chance, she's not responsible at all.

And of course in the divorce, the mother (even if she can't provide financially for the child) is seen as the better option? Shouldn't the person will the final (and every other) say in the child's life be somewhat responsible for it? But nope she is 0% responsible.

Oh and if you don't pay the exorbitant fees for the woma-uhhh child...for the child....then you can go to jail and get brutally ass-raped.

No no but SHE'S a hero and he's a scumbag. Right...

[deleted] · 2015-09-18T13:33:00+00:00

It's true, it tells single mothers to take personal responsibility for their choices, but gives a place for stupid men to act as if they did not fuck up.

GaiusScaevolus · 2015-09-18T13:53:13+00:00

I don't think it's choosing the wrong mate who then walks out on you that gets condemned. As you point out, choosing to commit to the wrong partner is stupid regardless of gender. I'd call them stupid, and think it's annoying that my taxes pay for her bad decisions, but generally, yes, it's stupidity equal to wifing the wrong woman.

The one's that I think are shitty people are the women who settle down and have kids, then after a length of time they get bored and decide they're 'not haaaaappy'. So they file for divorce, or cheat on him to make him file, then demand full custody despite making ~20% of the family income, but then demand child support/alimony while fighting visitation. Those women are selfish home-wrecking scum.

Cyralea · 2015-09-18T16:04:29+00:00

Because women initiate divorce 70% of the time. And that's just the paper value; some percentage of male-initiated divorces were coerced by a manipulative woman who blackmailed their partners with threats of taking them through divorce hell.

If a woman is single with child, 70-80% of the time it's because she chose that life willfully. Nevermind all the women who chose got knocked up outside of marriage and still chose to raise that child without a positive male influence in her life.

[deleted] · 2015-09-18T16:34:11+00:00

Because women are put on a moral high ground. We are expected to be the ones who are more sensible and less risk taking and the ones who know better. This isn't always possible because today women lack good role models.

foxmulders · 2015-09-18T00:20:21+00:00

I thought single mothers were vilified for the incredible irresponsibility of both conceiving and then carrying to term on accident.

Also for ruining good pussy by chubbing up and having rugrats around.

thereddespair · 2015-09-18T21:48:42+00:00

coz some trp guys are already too damaged by the treatment they got from women that any more pressure from blame directed towards men can break them... so get into this delusional nonsense for self preservation of sanity

Title	QFTRP: Why are single mothers vilified on TRP for choosing the wrong mate, but divorce raped men aren't?
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Date	September 18, 2015 12:11 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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