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LTR acting suspicious

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December 9, 2019
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So my LTR started acting bitchy around 30 days ago. First I tangled it with dread but it came back and I could tell she was off. For the last month I’ve had a weird gut feeling. So last night we were laying on my bed and she was opening her snaps, but now not all of them. I found it suspicious so I started paying notice. I saw this one guy who has her 3rd bestfriend and they had a streak of roughly a month. Next thing I checked was that she had followed him on IG around that time as well so he was a new person to her. Then I started remembering as well that the way she talked to me on snapchat was different than before around those 30 days.

I’m having a really strong gut feeling that my LTR is talking to this another guy aka cheating on me. Am I overreacting or should I listen to ny gut?


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Title LTR acting suspicious
Author Nfuckedmeup
Upvotes 88
Comments 129
Date 09 December 2019 04:51 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/298498
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/e8ch3u/ltr_acting_suspicious/
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[–]1Opperkech69301 points302 points  (9 children) | Copy

"When there is doubt, there is no doubt."

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev57 points58 points  (1 child) | Copy

Came here to post this.

[–]babybopp13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any takers for ten bucks that he will be back here in a month crying?

[–]poortrait10012 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Robert de niro In ronin.

[–]1Opperkech692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't remember. Second thing they teach you. ;)

[–]doesntpostnuttin9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Woah this is a good saying I like it a lot

[–]imahoaxandacoach1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn that is a really good saying.

[–]suckisuckilongtime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like this saying it’s very true

[–]FattiesMakeMeGag118 points119 points  (34 children) | Copy

Your LTR has snapchatted a guy every day for 30 days lol. The relationship is over.

Confront her about it, you'll receive some trickle truth and her tell you "you're being controlling, I'm allowed to have guy friends."

Your only other option is to check her conversation between them and they might only talk through snapchat so the convos don't get saved.

Best option is to leave and vet girls better next time.

[–]theeverydayhustle12 points13 points  (30 children) | Copy

I'm curious, what's the exit strategy that's recommended. Just disappear completely n suddenly the very next day? Or...?

[–]muricanwerewolf155 points56 points  (22 children) | Copy

Break up as soon as you can, for your own peace of mind. You can either ghost or give her the heads up. If you do the latter, which I prefer, I’d suggest not bringing up the cheating at all, just a neutral “this isn’t working for me”. She’ll probably try to pin down why, but I suggest giving her nothing. Her hamster will be trying to get some purchase to spin this breakup into HER rejecting YOU, if you give her nothing but the fact YOU are dissatisfied with HER it will blow her mind and send her into a negative spin.

Expect her to reach out the next time she feels alone and needs some validation, which you can parlay into easy sex.

[–]theeverydayhustle18 points19 points  (13 children) | Copy

Expect her to reach out the next time she feels alone and needs some validation, which you can parlay into easy sex.

Wow dang... 👍

[–][deleted]  (12 children) | Copy

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[–]strainer1235 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy

Yeah me too, I start to think she has particles of dick and semen still inside her, if a girl fucks me and tells me she fucked another guy even if we're not dating I'm done and stop seeing her.

[–]muricanwerewolf120 points21 points  (4 children) | Copy

They all have that bro. She’s not your girl, it’s just your turn. A guy she barely knows but still sometimes thinks about fucked her in the bathroom of a frat party. She’s sucked off a guy she didn’t even like that much, and couldn’t tell you why. The woman you have fallen in love with once had a three some with a guy you’d have assumed she’d have found physically repulsive. The girl you’re waiting until the third date to take home booty called her ex as soon as she got home from your second date.

The guys who act as if each girl they’ve wrangled into their arms is a unicorn are absolute fools to me. You think these women are different than all the rest, because you’re the one fucking her, because she blinked her beautiful eyes at you and said “I think we should be exclusive”. Get real. You’re not special. You’re not the first or the last. It’s just your turn.

[–]strainer123-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

I know, I don't think any woman is just mine after I took the red-pill, I just don't like them fucking around "while" we are fucking around you know, just while we're still on the honey-moon phase, after that ok, go on, fuck other people, I'm not gonna fuck them anymore so go at it, fuck 5 people at the same time for all I care, I'm not going to be one of the 5 though.

[–]muricanwerewolf12 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ah, you’re a serial monogamist. I don’t bother with that only because it’s never worked for me, they still fuck other dudes, they’re just sneaky about it. Whereas if I make no demands and seem adverse to any sort of commitment they sometimes will ironically only have time for me.

[–]MagnetoWned1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

spot on

[–]strainer1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like to bang chicks for 3 months in a row then leave because anything longer means they'll cheat anyway and I can't deal with it mentally, but I understand your thinking, reverse psychology might work hahaha

[–]theeverydayhustle4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I get what you mean. But I think it can be expected that most girls have fucked around? At least that's what I feel, not much diff

[–]PinacoladaSauce3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah definitely. Just based off the percentage of girls in relationships that I’ve fucked it kinda opens your eyes in that girls can’t be trusted.

[–]strainer123-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes, I just don't want to picture and think about the molecules of cock I'm licking while I'm down there so I don't even bother, not to mention the danger of getting an STD, I like going raw so the purer she is the better.

[–]failingtheturingtest5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

So the 100 guys she fucked before she met you don't have dicks, or is it the one she fucked after meeting you has a dick that dissolves in pussy?

[–]strainer123-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They do but the dick molecules and semen is already mostly absorbed or gone, if the guy just came into her 3 days ago there's still cum in there and it disgusts me profoundly.

[–]theeverydayhustle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm guessing you don't do plates? Honest question. Pretty sure the guy is saying to fuck her conveniently like a plate and not get back tgt w her into relationship

[–]johncillo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. OP, gtfo. You might say: “but these are only suppositions on her behavior” yet you mentioned she is acting differently towards you and out of respect for yourself you deserve more from a LTR, now go back to your old girls and slay them. This isn’t working for me is a great line, look out for yourself.

[–]Zanford5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Listen to this OP, this guy knows his shit.

If you bring up the cheating before, it's an admission that she was the higher value partner who thought she could do better (was branch swinging or readying to). If you act dumb to it, she can only conclude that she wasn't hot enough / your time was more valuable / you met someone better etc. This deflates her ego (the closest thing you'll get to 'getting back at her', if you care about that) and gives you the best chance of using her as a footstool or drought-breaker easy lay in the future.

[–]imtheoneimmortal1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

He doesn’t have to officially break up He doesn’t have to explain to her nothing

Just like her or many people don’t explain shit to OP

[–]muricanwerewolf1-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

What? Are you drunk?

[–]imtheoneimmortal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The gut is always right We rarely listen

[–]Nicolacho7-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Idk. I’m weird and I only like saying the truth. I feel I would just say that I don’t feel as loved anymore so I gotta break up. I would say that yeah I saw those messages but the biggest factor was your behavior it’s been for a whole month.

And never message her again.

[–]muricanwerewolf15 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s your call, though I don’t know why anyone would think there’s any benefit to unboxing your emotions to a woman who has shown she regards you with contempt.

[–]FattiesMakeMeGag6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Simple breakup text. No anger in it. Just letting her know it's over and end of discussion.

[–]theeverydayhustle2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Cool, and if she asks why? I'm placing my bets on a double blue tick

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Only you are the judge of your actions. So give her the answer you feel capable of giving. It doesn't matter in the end, as you should only invest in going forward. Just understand when a woman asks for closure, she's asking because she wants to make you feel worse, not make herself feel better (typically). My bet is, this chick will know exactly why without any reason.

[–]theeverydayhustle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Noted boss 👍

[–]ArnoldT10005 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ghost and anal only plate

[–]Enlightened_Chimp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao

[–]strainer1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you don't live with said person you can just stop talking to them.

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Verification isn't necessary. Her actions outside don't matter as much as her actions towards you. She went cold. Fight ice with indifference. The reason doesn't matter although it usually means she has her eyes on another. It's not your job to fight to stay together. She wants it or not. Just venture elsewhere.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hm

[–]VividFall70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is this satire?

[–]DefJ45644 points45 points  (18 children) | Copy

Always trust your gut. Time to gtfo.

[–]audacious_wirble16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is what I was looking for. Never doubt your gut... ever.

[–]SerialATA_Killer13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

brb buying $100k of bitcoin

[–]CSauceHockey7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Motherfucker this made me laugh

[–]xnesteax4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

My gut told me this too.. That's why a I bought a shitton of it lol.

Get rich or die trying

[–]dtyler8613 points14 points  (13 children) | Copy

All right all right, here to collect your down votes:

Going to have to step in here and call bullshit. In this particular case, the consistent streak on Snapchat with OP, yes I happen to agree. But fear and anxiety lie to you. Your brain implement these things historically to keep you safe. This really depends on the person though. Four years ago I had not flown on an airplane in about eight years entirely based on fear and anxiety from a previous horrible experience. Now I fly every few months, recently got scuba certified, on Saturday I went scuba diving with sharks, none of this would be possible if you really truly “trusted your gut“.

I’ve question friendships with men and my LTR and she has straight up shown me her phone, showing me her text interactions and everything completely checked out and I felt like an asshole. I see people posting “when there is doubt, there is doubt“. I’m not all knowing, but for those of the guys on this thread that are younger, this just sounds lazy and ridiculous. I’m 33 and I’ve seen every possible nightmare scenario there is, OP should be very cognizant and probably next his girlfriend, but to everyone else reading this? Trusting your gut ALWAYS is about the stupidest thing a grown man can do. Every leap of faith I have taken in my personal business ventures went entirely against my gut; and every last time I’m glad I did.

[–]jonsmif97975 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

When there's a change in attitude, that's usually when the doubt starts. We instinctively know that she no longer puts us as her priority, and we feel that she has replacement for us.

TRP suggests breaking up not just because of the actual actions, but also because she has lost respect and admiration for us. Even if cheating doesn't happen, the LTR doesn't feel good, and we men deserve better (abundance).

[–]dtyler861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well said

[–]fretty5550 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Ok but how do you know that saying all of this and doing all of these so called things AGAINST your "gut" wasn't your actual gut telling you to do that?

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Going with our “gods“ which is not actually a gut at all it’s a perceived intuition, would make us as emotionally driven as much as the women most people come here to lambaste. In all situations it seems men apply logic more so than emotion which is why we are not women.

Taking a calculated risk or even looking at the numbers and realizing something as irrational as a fear of flying, the stark difference of numbers between swimmers and scuba divers being attacked by sharks are all things that can help someone overcome their “gut“ feelings about them, whether they are perceived or real. Which is basically what I’m trying to say in my initial post. I see what you mean. I’m sure in everyone’s good they probably realize the fear of certain situations is often worse than the situation itself

[–]fretty5551 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don't think there's a gut/irrational fear of swimming with sharks. Even by using logic and rationality it's pretty obvious that if you go swimming with sharks there's a slight possibility that you might get ate. Obviously it's up to you to do these things though, I personally would not go swimming with sharks to conquer some sort of fear because I'd rather keep my chances of death to a minimum. I do like to do things such as driving riskily at high speeds or hydroplaning down hills on purpose for that adrenaline rush, just because I'm relatively in control of what happens to me in those situations.

[–]dtyler861 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you can pick the sharks you can sort of determine the level of FML you are going to experience. Hammerheads, sand tigers, sandbar sharks and reef sharks aren’t so bad. It’s the lunatics that go diving with tiger sharks and great whites that have to transcend sanity lol

Hydroplaning down a mountain? Bigger balls than I’ll ever have.

[–]fretty5551 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL yeah tiger and great whites just look murdersome.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

What the fuck are you even saying? Dude shut the fuck up with that weak shit. Comparing planes to girls in relationships. Nobody cares you get air sick. His girl is snapchatting a dude for a month and acting sus about it, there's no way around it. Couple that with her change in behavior towards OP since the last month she first connected with that dude online, and the story is evident.

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Right on bruh.. scuba diving with sharks, flying around the world for work, freaking out with a “gut” feeling your girls Snapchat friend is her new Chad-bro-thundercock? Right. They’re not all the same thing, nor should they be treated like it. Homeboy could be her fucking cousin. Instead of nexting in the name of TRP, maybe confront the LTR and find out instead of trusting the ole infallible gut

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You're naive and childish in your belief. A girl isn't gonna hide her cousin's snaps from you, and sure as he'll isn't gonna magically call a new guy she just met a month ago her cousin and become "Snap best friends" in such short time. How old are you even?

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You clearly have never dated a Latina. How old are you?? I’m guessing the ripe bold age of 24?

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Just as I thought, naive and childish. Poor attempt at a deflection.

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m 33. Too old to give too many shots what a troll with a small penis thinks of my life choices. So let’s have it? 23? 36?

[–]oscarboy31138 points39 points  (7 children) | Copy

Do not confront her. Do not show that you're jealous or anything. Your LTR snapchatting a guy for 30 days straight is indeed highly suspicious (not even acceptable). At this point, she's already done with the relationship but just doesn't have the courage to tell you. So yeah, just break up with her. As a high value man, you cannot stay with someone who disrespects you like that ... sorry mate.

[–]i-am-the-prize14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

At this point, she's already done with the relationship but just doesn't have the courage to tell you.

nah, chicks don't need courage. she's:

1) confirming the new branch is indeed stronger than her current branch before she lets go of the current branch

2) milking any BB the OP is providing and double dipping in the meantime, lots of ego validation with double dipping.

[–]EarlOfJerusalem8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

nah, chicks don't need courage.

Your two points are correct, but this isn't true. Women hate ending relationships. Many will try whatever they can to get you to break up with them, when it's they who no longer want to be in the relationship.

That's always their first step.

[–]i-am-the-prize3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

10-4, I've seen this:

" Many will try whatever they can to get you to break up with them, when it's they who no longer want to be in the relationship..."

[–]Zanford2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

on 2), maybe she's hoping OP gives her a pricey Xmas gift before she swings, and/or she likes the idea of having 'a boyfriend' during the holidays and isn't sure about the new guy yet

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ah, right "CUFFING SEASON". good catch.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This^ everyone else saying soft next are cucks. Why stay with someone who you know is emotionally cheating on you (or worse) and is knowing she is doing it herself.

Have self respect, and game other broads.

[–]PhaedrusHunt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a high value man, you cannot stay with someone who disrespects you like that ... sorry mate.

OP should get this tattooed in reverse on his forehead so he sees it every time he looks in the mirror

[–]Hexo919 points20 points  (7 children) | Copy

Went through something similar. It’s not worth stressing over I can tell you that. The doubt, worrying, and constantly questioning the trust will fuck you up.

[–]i-am-the-prize6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

YUP, hopefully he's already articulated some boundaries so a reminder statement of fact (vs. a new ultimatum) doesn't come off butthurt.

"When I have a GF I don't have ongoing DM 1 on 1 convos with other women, and as a reminder: I'm not exclusive with women who flirt with or have ongoing 1 on 1 convos with other guys", and leave it at that, head to the gym because you want to, not because you're angry.

Any shittest reply "what are you jealous?" "are you threatened?" just ignore her, and broken record - your simple and truly baseline boundary which isn't controlling nor needy, just reasonable.

Stand your ground, don't be needy. Be OI and NGAF. Either she will come into your Frame and decide you're the prize and worth it, cutting out her shit, or she won't. That's the beauty and simplicity of it.

POLARIZE - you're better off knowing she is NOT LTR material sooner rather than later, every single time. It is never better to find out later. Never.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

just reasonable

Seems kinda beta

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Seems kinda beta

maybe you're so stoic that you don't mind your LTR going out to lunch "as Friends" with her Ex? or is that where you draw the line?

Point is, for most guys, there IS a line "somewhere"... and that's not being Beta.

The key is to just be clear on where yours is, and set the boundary early enough in the LTR stage that there's no misunderstanding, or better yet, you're not trying to change behavior later. The Beta part to be is reactive, and mate-gaurding, and after-the-fact butthurt. If you are clear about your boundaries, you Lead. You set the Frame. She can join/follow or NEXT.

Example: for all her AWALT faults, my LTR doesn't push these types of boundaries with social media. She's the one who mentioned to me when she joined FB and her ex tried to friend her, and she said to me: "I didn't think it was appropriate, so I blocked him" maybe it was a mild shittest, but I saw it as an FYI and her being proactive in letting me know she cockblocked him. Why did she do this? Because years before, we had a convo about talking/meeting up with Ex's and how it was out of bounds - for both of us - in the same week both her ex and my ex reached out to each of us respectively/coincidentally so it was the 'first time' we had the topic come up, and we set a boundary. So even tho FB didn't exist when we had that second convo. The concept behind the boundary did.

And since then I've used that type of language above: "my LTR doesn't do XYZ" and left it at that. no 'threat' no 'explicit ultimatum' just: the way it is. She can draw the conclusion she wants form that, which is simple, these are my rules if you want to be with me - I am the Prize after all - fall in line, or don't.

I've given this advice to one of my teenage sons. It worked well.

  • his 'steady' GF after a ~150 day streak on snap, messed their streak up
  • she blamed being tired after sports and falling asleep before she got on her phone that night.
  • then he found out she snapped another dude - an orbiter who has feelings for her - that night, when she supposedly fell asleep and missed his message/streak
  • he made the mistake (BETA move) of complaining about her snapping with a known crusher of hers, she did the classic girl thing:
    • He's just a friend, don't you trust me? and then, immediately pivoted to:
    • Aren't you secure enough in our relationship to not let this bother you?
    • (she's 15 and pulled both of these classics out of her ass on him...)
  • it's not his first GF and he's gotten physical with a few chicks already, and he hadn't even banged her - but this is the first time he's been truly jealous, and he was very uncomfortable in his situation.
  • I advised him to use that line: ("I do not DM with girls who have crushes on me when I'm in an LTR/steady with someone. I expect my steady to do the same for me" -- then STFU) I had to take his phone b/c she started hemming, hawing, hamstering -- and he was dying to reply and DEER. I literally sat on his phone while it blew up.
  • Finally she went silent.
  • then 2 days later "I see your point, I wouldn't want you doing it, I've told him I don't want to DM him anymore"
  • then he returned his attention, cooly. (reward good behavior)
  • it took all of his strength (with me over him) to not reply to her and stick to a boundary. His mistake was not stating it immediately upon seeing the behavior or earlier, when the topic of 'exes' or crushes comes up (and obviously complaining 'beta-like' when she acted in a way he disapproved of)

you can't VET her so well that shit won't come up - or put another way, people change, so vetting is for the "version of her in front of you now" Boundaries - they are something that can span time and something a Leader sets and enforces by withdrawing attention/demoting if crossed.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Noice, thanks for the practical example, I really only said beta cuz you old fuckers say to set boundaries and never provide actual examples

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

us old fuckers are lazy and wrongly assume others have seen what we've seen, so often do cut corners projecting our own baseline knowledge levels onto others.

all good young pup.

the main take-away is: set boundaries early. it's hard to do because (the BP/normie you) wants to be liked and wants to like her and wants things to work out ---so doesn't want to rock the boat and make conflict "too early"

But relationship equity is not real. It not only gets harder later, there is no 'credit built up'

You set your Frame and establish yourself as high value when you set boundaries -- that's the ironical thing - they're easier to set the more you set them (if 'reasonable') since you've already established that you have boundaries. Not finally deciding to have a boundary --- she says: "wow jimmy grew a spine and now after 6 months doesn't like me snapping other guys - is it because my new DM buddy is taller and cuter than him that it finally bothers him?"

THAT is reactive and Beta and butthurt and will not end well (for the dude)

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think it's really a skill thats practiced. I wish someone would write a book of boundaries. I genuinely believe it's not good that guys like myself go out there without a mentor like you to avoid the time wasted with learning those first few common boundaries + dread responses

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

have you read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" and "When I say No I feel Guilty" ?

they are recommended RP reading. they are not specifically only about male/female sexual dynamic. they are about assertiveness in general terms and boundaries. they are fantastic books.

assertiveness counseling is not unocmmon, shrinks have a lot of clients who come to them to help "not get walked all over"

it's hard if you're psychologically high in Agreeableness, and/or if you're self-esteem is low. 'fixing' those is the foundational step.

also see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRioML0boA

you said "dread responses" - you mean a girl dreading you? (making you jealous?)

[–]1Red_Pill_Brotherhood14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good chance shes cheating. Very least she is being disrespectful and enjoying the attention of another guy on a platform that deletes evidence.

Dump her. "This isn't working for me anymore. We're done. Best of luck."

[–]babybopp5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She might not be cheating but OP is witnessing the initial stages of the classic branch swing happen before his eyes but has no clue. She is perusing other possibilities of other dudes. She is browsing. She doesn’t value OP.

She might not be cheating but don’t ever stay with a woman who is branch-rowsing.. he is on borrowed time now.

[–]ApdoSenpai8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t mention it and just end it. Vet better next time. Good luck

[–]KrissVectorEOC8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wonder what snaps they've exchanged while you aren't there or maybe she went to the bathroom with her phone and came back to starfish while she was thinking about Mr. StealyourHo

[–]Snowaey6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sry bro, your LTR is a hoe

[–]iphone50005 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your best bet is to end things and cut her off. She may come back to you, but if you wait for her to do it then you're for sure screwed.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

So my LTR started acting bitchy around 30 days ago

So in the LTR game, you should always adhere to the 2nd date rule. A bunch of things may be going on, like her wanting you to kill the puppy, she's got a side dude, etc, but the biggest issue you have is you let this get too far. Bad behavior should never be tolerated beyond the 2nd date.

What does that mean? If you were on a second date with this chick and she started acting bitchy, would you have put up with that shit? You wouldn't then, and you shouldn't now. Don't conflate dread with bad behavior. Dread will induce things like comfort tests, but it won't generate outright disrespect. With dread, she'll be worried about you, with disrespect she'll disrespect you.

Bitchiness is a reflection of lack of frame. Bad behavior should always be dealt with on the spot and with clear boundaries. She acts bitchy, you remove her access to your time. In the end, you filter her out faster and it never gets to the point where you're sitting around after a month wondering what the fuck happened.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How the fuck do you set boundaries ffs. How do you phrase it?

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It depends on your leadership style and the situation. I would say a big portion is consistency in reaction and matching actions to that. Don't blather on with words, be a man of action.

I was dating my now wife and had to leave to go do some things around my place. I invited her to come but she refused as she had to get up early for her second job. I was like "ok, cool see ya."

She gave me a very terse, "fine"

It came out later that she was super mad at me (I knew it), but I told her I don't deal with bullshit. If she was mad, she should have said it. She apologized to me after it dawned on her. I was clear on what the boundary was, and I had already shown her how I would enforce it.

Other times if she's being super bitchy I've straight up told her, "Hey I can see you're going through something, so I'm going to do XYZ. Call me when you're ready to talk." and left to go do something.

Nothing is free in life. Reward good behavior with your time, and remove yourself from bad behavior.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ask her about it. Be prepared for trickle truth and emotional manipulation.

Stick to your guns. Whether she admits anything or not, tell her to gather her stuff and get out.

When she protests saying, "you're breaking up with me?!" tell her, "you broke up with me."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Real question is where are you that snap chat best friends are still viewable

[–]EarlOfJerusalem1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

It just shows you on Snapchat with emojis. You can see what they all mean in the settings.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Ain't no body got time for that

[–]EarlOfJerusalem2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why ask then?

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao

[–]MyNameIsDaza3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry mate

[–]Tiberiuss72 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

.next()

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

it was just for shits and giggles

"just for shits and giggles" means "I take no responsibility for my actions".

[–]Zanford1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go with your gut. And by 'go' I do mean 'go', aka ghost.

Do not give her a butthurt exit speech about how betrayed you feel, how could she do this blah blah blah

[–]flatox1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Drop her ass like she never existed and never look back.

[–]Aesthetik_11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just tell her straight up if she wants to see somebody else she is free to do so.

It’s better and less painful to cut her loose now than to see her slowly swing over to some dude.

What ever you do, you must not get emotional / look hurt in front of her. I have had chicks contemplate a branch swing, but by the sheer way of delivering that talk and my nonchalance about it made them reconsider.

Of course now you know better than to further invest in her I hope.

[–]The_Belony1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

LMAO U didn't look at the kid's pic on IG and think that he looks kimda young? Cmon man

[–]Nfuckedmeup1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Private profile and around 800 followers and the profile pic wasn’t of him but instead of some outfit lol

[–]eatclentrenhard690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's a difference between paranoia and instincts. It sounds like your instincts are correct here.

[–]thisismyfirstrode00 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ghost.

[–]catsdontsmile0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think she's cheating on you emotionally, but not sexually yet. The reason she's treating you like shit is because she wishes she was cheating on you with him. Relationship is doomed.

[–]Spaghetti17760 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nice detective skills bro. Probably saved yourself a 3-5 month decline to a dying relationship. Time to go. Do anything you can to fuck her life up without breaking the law if you feel so inclined. Better luck next time, the best predictor of her future is her past. Never forgive a woman for a whore past, there is no end to the stories I could tell you of men ignoring this to their own detriment.

[–]abomba240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Man I know this sucks but this comes across so pathetic. You know the answer here, this is all shit counter to your mission

[–]IceBear---690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cum on her face or make her swallow one last time and ggggGhost that Ho!

No need to break up with her formally, that's only for women who have shown you respect....and this situation of yours is NOT respectful from her end.

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just know that if you’re 17 or 18 and in an LTR, that LTR is about 30 days away from being over after it began.

[–]StellarMemez0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

after your edit: If she really didn't care about this dude then she would have opened them in front of you just like anyone else. Actions not words. She made excuses AND cried because she knew she was doing some bullshit. You should have established a firm boundary, and end the relationship if it gets crossed while keeping your options open.

The fact that it's her friend's boyfriend doesn't matter. They would do it anyway. The fact that he's younger doesn't matter. grown ass female pedo teacher fuck their students, don't they?

Also this relationship is 99% going to end when you go to college anyway. this behavior is a red flag for any serious relationship when you are older.

[–]Nfuckedmeup0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don’t know if it was intentional that she doesn’t always check all her snaps when she’s with me me since there’s like 50 of em unopened. And honestly I don’t see the kid as any threat, it’s just weird but funny imo.

[–]PandaLitter3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's going to cheat on you with a 14 yr old lol

[–]NoVirtueSignal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Demote to plate, or next.

[–]rizzyfromthe90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why is your gf snap chatting a 14 year old ? Creepy af

[–]trancedj0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All I read was the first 3 sentences.

“She’s never yours, it’s just your turn.” And your turn is up. Move on.

Good luck.

[–]ZedBaby0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Word of advice kid, stay away from social media

[–]fretty5550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In the end as long as you have control of that pussy nothing else matters.

[–]VividFall70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

IME, if you worry about it, it's nothing. It's only when you let your guard down and become comfortable does shit happen.

[–]VividFall70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Also, don't listen to most commenters here. Snapchat streaks are the cool kid shit all people do now. It's not even texting, it's just sending pictures to everyone you want on streak. Nothing suspicious.

[–]boyleaaron0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Go Mgtow. Watch Coteries mateguarding complex and Human's she's not yours... You will be sorted if it happens again 👍

[–]strainer1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Listen to your gut. She's cheating. Ask to look at her PMs on various social media sites, whatsapp, if she refuses you know whats up.

[–]rappidrabbithump-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who cares? Just keep your options open the same way she is. If you have more girls snap chatting you than she has guys you don’t really need to worry either way if the LTR ends. Keep that abundance up no matter your relationship status

[–][deleted]  (2 children) | Copy

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[–]1Red_Pill_Brotherhood1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Moronic.

[–]Lateralanouncer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It the first thing woman do. Call text the person they suspect. I think it would put her in line. Or make her leave. Win win.

[–]prince0verit-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT. It was just your turn.



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