Time to ask for a divorce?

Step_Aside_Butch · 2020-09-29T17:48:37+00:00

Don’t ask for a divorce. Just leave your “My Wife: Pros and Cons” list taped to the refrigerator for her to read every time she goes for a snack.

mr4kino · 2020-09-29T17:46:40+00:00

You are lacking leadership and it reflects in her actions.

Since you think you have a genuinely good person by your side, you need to know that this is hard to come by nowadays. So work on yourself, read the sidebar (a couple of times if needed, you need to understand and apply) --> she will follow if you are a good leader.

Now that you talked about her, talk about yourself. We don't know anything. Say are you physically fit? Like muscles and all? Or just the average "not-fat" joe? etc etc etc.

The garden example tells us a lot. You don't care, so why would a woman care? I mean what did you really expect here? She wants to enjoy the garden, not trim the bushes.

part_wolf · 2020-09-29T17:38:26+00:00

Sure, go ahead and ask her if you can have a divorce. Let us know what she says.

Cloudy_Pirate · 2020-09-29T20:30:07+00:00

For Science:

"She" count: 41
"I" count: 31
Frame detected: 0
Leadership detected: 0
Beta traits: 5
Alpha traits: 0

Analysis: Classic Nice Guy Beta Bux

Recommendation: Read the sidebar, STFU, Lift.

Key statements analyzed:

> I get along with her dad but he's very whipped.

> She’s overweight

> She wanted a house with a yard and garden, so we rented a place out of my financial comfort to make her happy

> We went on an expensive holiday but ended up fighting over something minor, and no sex

aLL1HU · 2020-09-29T19:16:10+00:00

I was in the same boat with my wife - it was all my fault.

As I got better myself and got better at leading - she got better. My relationship with her and my kids, my health, her weight, my sex life, and my finances are the best they've ever been and getting better so long as I keep improving myself.

I'm glad I didn't get a divorce, lose a ton of money and effort, only to end up repeating the cycle that I created.

OP - read the sidebar and start posting in OYS. Improve yourself for 6 months to a year and then reevaluate.

Or, cut ties now before kids get in the picture, read the sidebar and start posting in OYS. Improve yourself 6 months to a year before deciding if you want to get married again.

Or, cut ties, do nothing to improve yourself, and end up in a similar situation with a different woman.

It all starts and ends with you.

red-sfpplus · 2020-09-29T19:13:21+00:00

I dont even ask for anal, let alone divorce.

HornsOfApathy · 2020-09-29T17:22:36+00:00

Approved for science.

Edit: OP banned for 30 days for being dumb. Science experiment completed. Data added to internal report.

InChargeMan · 2020-09-29T21:13:34+00:00

TG;DR

All I saw was no kids. No kids = dating with slightly more paperwork. I have no advice, just pointing this out for frame of reference.

Sepean · 2020-09-29T18:05:45+00:00

Sounds like she fails the when to next your wife test https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/37l2q0/when_to_next_your_wife/

And you do too.

My vote is ditch her, ditch old you, read sidebar and build better you.

2020-09-29T18:41:22+00:00

It sounds like you married her without knowing her super well, and now you're realizing that you can do better.

She's not going to suddenly become a unicorn so if that's a problem for you then divorce her. If you're on the fence about the marriage, then don't start having kids as that will just make divorce way more complex. If you believe that you have the potential to grow as a person enough that the things she does that you don't like will bother you less, then you could probably make the marriage work.

You sound kind of butt hurt and like you still have a lot of progress to make with red pill. You don't mention your physical stats or what sidebar reading you've done...

marv86kw · 2020-09-29T20:38:17+00:00

Kids will be the nail in the coffin, it won't grt better, it'll get worse. Umless you fix yourself.

راح تتحسف قد شعر راسك

Rifleshoot · 2020-09-29T20:38:24+00:00

Look at your pro list and look at your con list. Just about every one of the cons are things that YOU can lead her to change. But to lead her forward, you have to set the example, and therefore the standard. You are Egyptian, a place that is, from my knowledge, more traditionalist. So women in Egypt have the benefit of culture reinforcing domestic responsibility. Canada has no such cultural motivator. So, you have to do a little extra work. Step up your own game and get her on board to do the same. Start cleaning the house yourself, and tell her to help you. Go to the gym and tell her to come with you. Work out with her. For cooking, find a recipe and tell her to cook it for you. Your wife suffers from a lack of direction, and it is incumbent upon YOU to provide that direction. That is leadership.

BobbyPeru · 2020-09-30T00:02:07+00:00

I thought no way could this post be worse than the first one I read posted today... I was wrong.

Hit the sidebar, lift, and start doing OYS posts. You need to have a basic understanding of MRP before you start making yourself look like an ass on here. It’s such a train wreck, I wouldn’t even know where to start

SorcererKing · 2020-09-29T17:46:13+00:00

So much incongruence in this whole thing. Which of our Good Samaritans will write you 2000 words to explain?

foomanchu1999 · 2020-09-29T23:12:48+00:00

Sounds like an average North American Woman. She is not going to change permanently for you. If you are an average guy stay in the marriage. If you think you are an above average person, leave the marriage. You maybe unevenly yoked.

Perfectinmyeyes · 2020-10-01T12:55:46+00:00

I'm not a regular poster here, but did you read this forum before posting?

It's filled with comments such as what you have been given.

Not really sure what you were expecting...

I connected with your story - reminded of me a bit as far as the woman goes.

You asked the question wheather you should divorce.

Only you can answer that.

The question you should ask yourself is how can you let go of whom your wife is and will be and defining yourself on this.

business---travel · 2020-09-29T19:26:00+00:00

I'm 27M and she's 28F

You already fucked up by getting into a relationship with a woman older than you, followed by putting a ring on her finger. You are out here writing long lists about "The Wife"; however, your wife is approaching the wall and probably wants to jump back on the cock carousel because of your lack of leadership. Your wife signed up for a HVM, a captain, and a man with vision, purpose, and drive - not this...

Your wife is a pure reflection of the man that you are, which means your lazy wife is a reflection of her lazy, skinny fat husband. Your wife is approaching the point where fucking other men going into her 30s is a good option for her before she completely slams into the wall, not to mention getting access to your resources on the way out; regardless, if you two don't have kids. Divorce your wife? Sure, go ahead. But, the next woman you get into a relationship with, god forbid live with and wife up will act exactly the same as your ex-wife.

Go ahead and divorce your wife. But, you need to fix your shit. That's where the work starts. See that sidebar over there? Not sure how much of it you have gone through or internalized yet, but start from the beginning. While you are reading through the sidebar (books, OYS, links, videos, etc.), you will be lifting heavy on a consistent basis and cleaning up your diet. The 60 Days of Dread is your roadmap - start there. This isn't all on your wife. Take some responsibility and get your head out of your ass, you good beta male provider.

light-----------dark · 2020-09-29T19:02:54+00:00

OP, I haven’t read one thing about you. . Do you work out? Have you read the sidebar?

Leaders lead, and their partners will happily be guided. Your story tells me that you’re lacking leadership. On other other hand, sounds like she has some inherently questionable characteristics / traits - it will take extra effort for you to even lead her to a better way of living. If this serves you, do it. Sounds like more work than it’s worth though.

Also, you think she could be a good parent, but she can’t even take care of her house and home?

OP, don’t have children with this woman. You’re better off cutting the cord and spending your time learning how to become a man.

becoming_alpha · 2020-09-29T19:08:41+00:00

What are you doing to lead her? What does your fitness look like? What are your lifts?

Even without your responses, I'm going with lack of leadership.

capn_barnacles · 2020-09-29T21:20:10+00:00

All of those things that you don't like seem like a lack of leadership on your part. And I say that speaking from personal experience.

What are you bringing to the table? Would you be happier without her, or are you just going to find someone else just like her (or worse).

As I have been told by multiple people in the last 2 weeks, that's taking the easy way out. Work on yourself for about 2 years, then re-evaluate.

justpickanyusername · 2020-09-29T22:53:42+00:00

she hasn’t lost the weight she’s been wanting to lose ever since we met.

This might be my favorite. What the hell were you expecting? You married an overweight girl, who has always been overweight, and magically think she is going get super lean and sexy because your "married"???

Tyred_Biggums · 2020-09-30T03:23:28+00:00

Husband is planning long term and sees red flags that could become bigger problems in the future.

You do this before you get married. Dumbass.

arm_candy · 2020-09-30T15:42:39+00:00

You should divorce her. She can do better.

Title	Time to ask for a divorce?
Author	Grocery_Murky
Upvotes	7
Comments	45
Date	September 29, 2020 5:03 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askMRP
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