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Is this what maintaining Frame looks like?

by AltrusiticPound | April 07, 2020 | askMRP

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Situation:

Me, my wife, and my baby are staying at my in-laws in upstate NY. Normally we live in the city. I was still going in to work until last Friday (job is shutting down for a week and I’m taking vacation). Since my in-laws are >70 my wife asked if I would hop right in the shower when I get home. When I got home Friday I went right upstairs and into the shower. I come down and my wife, baby and in-laws are in the living room/kitchen area. In an accusatory tone my wife says, “where are have you been?” I look at her, STFU and take my daughter from her. She looks at me red-faced and repeats, “where have you been?” only this time with an upward inflection like she’s trying to be nice. I look at her and say you wanted me to shower when I got home, so I did. She gets mad at me, gets up and walks out of the room and calls me a piece of shit…in front of her parents and our baby. I don’t respond. I go upstairs and she follows me up. She throws/slams our baby’s chair on the floor and says, “You know, I don’t have to put with your shit.” I said nothing.

I said nothing for two reasons. One, I was absolutely floored. I literally said nothing and she lost it. The second reason I didn’t say anything is because of the STFU mantra.

This is the second time this week I’ve come home and my wife has come at me like a fucking cop. I forget what she said earlier last week, but I answered her question and then said, “it’s good to see you, too.” She gave me a look like I was out of line. It was a mistake to be sarcastic, but I was annoyed and didn’t know how to handle it. We didn’t talk for the rest of Friday night, but I socialized with her parents like it was all good.

The following morning, I wait until our daughter is napping and the in-laws are busy. I sit down next to my wife on the couch and tell I want to talk about last night. I repeat the way the situation unfolded and I repeat what I heard her say. I then tell, in a calm voice, that if she speaks that way to me again I’m leaving. She didn’t seem to care. I asked if she was sure. I was ready to leave and stay at my family’s house. She started talking about why she was mad. She brought up how I used to flip out in the past and curse at her, even how I’ve said “fuck you” to her before. I didn’t deny it, but I didn’t apologize. I just brought the conversation back to the fact that I don’t lose my shit and curse anymore. And since I’ve joined MRP, I haven’t. She listed other reasons she’s been angry with me, like I don’t talk to her that much anymore and I don’t talk about my job with her. She’s right. I’ve seen/read a lot about how stoicism = alphaness, so I stopped complaining. I don’t talk about work, because it’s fucking work and it generally makes want to bitch.

I tried to use negative inquiry, fogging, and the broken record technique to bring it back to what she said the night before. I told her that when she comes home she looks for things that are wrong, she grills me like the cops, and she doesn’t act like she’s happy to see me. She apologized and told she would try and be more pleasant at the end of the day. She straddled me after that and we talked about having sex. She ended up “not feeling well” later that night so sex didn’t happen.

So, is this a small victory? Did I manage to maintain Frame?


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Title Is this what maintaining Frame looks like?
Author AltrusiticPound
Upvotes 17
Comments 45
Date 07 April 2020 11:47 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]0io-Tsundere24 points25 points  (7 children) | Copy

STFU is a good default move, so you probably did the right thing there when it happened.

Talking about the temper tantrum she threw the next day is probably a mistake. Either act like it never happened or that you forget all about it just like you would if a 2 year old threw a tantrum the other day. The right move is just to leave when she's acting that way. Come back in an hour (or three days later) and don't offer an explanation for where you've been.

Let her parents ask her what the hell she was thinking and why she was acting like a psychotic bitch and if you're ever coming back or not. Don't tell her you're going to leave next time, just do it. It's much more powerful. She'll figure out pretty fast that she doesn't talk that way to you unless she wants to spend all her time taking care of your daughter and her parents all by herself.

So, not a win, but it's not as bad as it could have been. You did some of the right things. Holding frame means she has no ability to have a negative impact on your emotional state at all. If she's acting crazy or unpleasant, you walk away from her. When she's being nice, sexy, and affectionate, you spend time with her. There shouldn't be a lot (or any) talking about how you want to be treated, how you expect things should go, what she said or didn't say, why she acted or didn't act a certain way, etc.

Also, remember that your default state is to be in a good mood. When you come home you're in a good mood. If she's acting like a cop you're still in a good mood. If she keeps being obnoxious, you walk away, but you're still in a good mood. So when you walk in you can still say hi to everyone and be friendly even if she's acting crazy. Her parents or a neutral imaginary observer (if the whole thing was uploaded to youtube) should be asking themselves WTF is her problem? That guy was perfectly normal, came home in a good mood, was friendly to everyone and she's psycho.

Think of the woman screaming at a cat meme. Be the cat.

[–]redwall929 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Be the cat.

I emailed myself this selection years ago to look back on from time to time.... can't remember who I copped it from. Sorry that I can't give a nod to the right guy. Was probably stone or bpp.

Growing up we had a cat. Really nice cat, but definitely an "only cat" and it was very cat like in that it had times where it completely wanted to be alone and would get annoyed at you if you tried to pick it up or pet it. Now... we ended up finding this other little kitten and wanted to give it a home.

This kitten had the most solid frame of any living being I have ever seen. It wasn't afraid of anyone... people, other cats, anything. It basically thought it was the shit.

Old cat HATED IT. Swiped the shit out of it anytime it got near, hissed at it if it was even in the same room, would go out of its way to avoid the kitten. What did the kitten do? Didn't even notice. Tried to play every day. Would turn the angry swats of the old cat into a game. This lasted for at least a month. We were pretty certain that we just had two cats that would never get along. But the kitten was so resilient and had a frame of "hey best friend" that was so strong the old cat eventually gave in.

I'm looking at this in hindsight, but this was the most literal example I can think of that I have ever seen of something imposing its frame on something else. Everyday swatted at, everyday hissed at, and never did it think to hate the old cat... never once did it hiss back. Never once did it doubt that they were going to be friends and play together, even in the face of absolute resistance. They ended up getting along great for the rest of their lives. Would it have turned out like that if the little kitten had occasionally snapped and attacked the old cat? We can't know for sure, but I would say I doubt it.

[–]FoxShitNasty831 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it was you that told me to stop chasing the cat trying to fuck it. Be cool calm, friendly and let it come to you. This is true, chasing the cat achieves nothing.

[–]Cl_ARK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

can't remember who I copped it from.

Original story was from a guy who went by druganswer

[–]michelswennson2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love the answer and the constitution of mind that is described. Unfazed.

[–]FoxShitNasty832 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she's acting crazy or unpleasant, you walk away from her. When she's being nice, sexy, and affectionate, you spend time with her.

Lol... yeah this.

[–]HumectantMenace2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Obviously if she's talking like that infront of her parents, then her parents don't have a great deal of respect for him either. If I want my parents to respect my husband, I RESPECT my husband infront of them, never talk ill about him to them.

[–]UnPussified0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“Take a shower!” + “Where have you been?”

Ever thought that leaving the house during this very surreal, ParanoiDemic in New York, is like dangling her parents & your daughter over a cliff, in her eyes ?

As Rich Cooper likes to say, “Guys do stupid shit to complicate their own lives....”

[–]BostonBrakeJob17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

No. This is what allowing a cunt to disrespect you looks like.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you have to ask if you won, you did not.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret26 points27 points  (5 children) | Copy

She apologized and told she would try and be more pleasant at the end of the day. She straddled me after that and we talked about having sex. She ended up “not feeling well” later that night so sex didn’t happen.

Lmfao. Show a half effort of controlling you with that magic vagina - to let you THINK you might have won - but pulls it right back away from beta Billy.

And then you come here asking/thinking you won.

That woman is genius.

You're a blind man.

[–]macheagle6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed.

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Show a half effort of controlling you with that magic vagina - to let you THINK you might have won - but pulls it right back away from beta Billy.

And then you come here asking/thinking you won.

That woman is genius.

You're a blind man.

Totally right. Thanks for pointing that out.

[–]hack3geRed Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not a genius just natural instincts.

I highly doubt she even did this intentionally - I used to think women had some sort of ulterior motive but they don’t.

Gym chick tried to pull some shit once and I just laughed at her and left - I highly doubt she was doing it intentionally since she wants to fuck as much as I do but she couldn’t help herself. She hasn’t done anything like that since then probably because I flat out told her it was unattractive and I made me not want to fuck her anymore.

His wife got feels from the power dynamic shift and then realized later this faggot doesn’t make her pussy tingle. It’s the reason why guys who put in the work get called assholes and then later their wives are gagging themselves on their cocks.

You need to both not be a faggot and be attractive.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

highly doubt she even did this intentionall

Agree.

Still genius instincts built upon years of natural selection DNA to weed the faggots out.

It’s the reason why guys who put in the work get called assholes and then later their wives are gagging themselves on their cocks.

I LOL'd at this.

I met my wife through mutual friends. When I told my buddy who was dating my wife's BFF to setup a meet - my wife said, "With that guy? That asshole?! "

"Uggh. Well... he is kind of hot. Fine."

Yet years later I still failed tests knowing what makes her pussy tingle and was afraid of being an "asshole".

Was just confidence and frame.

Gags on cock now everytime. 10/10 would recommend

[–]hack3geRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Only having frame or looks will 100% get you laid but having both gets you your face fucked off.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Wow, where to even start....

I look at her and say you wanted me to shower when I got home, so I did.

Mommy is glad you’re taking orders so well. Does She tell you when to poop also? Can you see how it’s

A) A faggot move - you should take showers whenever and wherever you want

And

B) A faggot answer (It’s actually a subtle form of DEERing)

it’s good to see you, too.” She gave me a look like I was out of line. It was a mistake

NO - this is probably your best move in this train wreck of a field report. You’re so scared of her disapproval. It’s because you have zero frame, and you are living in her frame. Living in her frame makes you want her approval more than your own. That was actually a decent amused mastery response, and then you flubbed it. Learn how to feel comfortable when she’s in discomfort and angry. It takes practice, but you just have to STFU after you practice amused mastery, fogging, A&A.... etc

The second reason I didn’t say anything is because of the STFU mantra.

STFU is a good rule of thumb in the beginning, but not always. when there’s clear disrespect you have to draw a line sometimes but in a manly way. It’s OK to express anger (if that’s what you’re feeling) in a situation of extreme disrespect. You just have to make sure you’re not acting like a pissy faggot. Learn how to draw lines like a man. After you draw the line, then STFU.

STFU doesn’t mean you become s doormat. All that will generate is more disrespect.

I just brought the conversation back to the fact that I don’t lose my shit and curse anymore. And since I’ve joined MRP, I haven’t.

Wow, have you read any sidebar? EDIT: 1 major basic violation here:

DEERing

I then tell, in a calm voice, that if she speaks that way to me again I’m leaving. She didn’t seem to care.

She didn’t seem to care because she doesn’t care. The fact that she acted this way in front of her parents suggests she’s setting the stage, putting on a show for her parents about how bad your relationship is... not only does she not care, but she’s actively trying to get you to kill the puppy OR showing her parents WHY she’s killing the puppy.

Im curious: how did her parents act during this whole thing? Did they say anything, body language, facial expressions... etc)

How is /has been your relationship with her parents through the years?

stoicism = alphaness,

Mostly true, but only if it’s genuine. You can’t fake stoicism for long . In any case, don’t get caught in the term “alpha”… That’s a mistake many newbies make. “Alpha” is something you become, not a way you act. - That’s an important distinction.

So, is this a small victory? Did I manage to maintain Frame?

No, not even close. Your whole last paragraph describes your attempts to please mommy and relive a conversation you lost as soon as you entered it (based on RP principles alone).

You are So Far off the mark.

You need the basics:

  • Lift

  • Sidebar

  • Build your own frame

  • STFU , but not during extreme disrespect

TBH, this may be beyond the point of no return.

What is your height/weight/lifts/BF%, and where are you on the sidebar readings?

[–]AlohaMaui8081 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

U/altruisticpound

This is your best response here so far.

Pay some fucking attention and answer his questions.

[–]AlohaMaui8081 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

B) Talking about fight club

I don't think he was saying he told her about MRP, I think he was talking to us but just didn't separate the sentence context better for clarity.

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think he was saying he told her about MRP, I think he was talking to us but just didn't separate the sentence context better for clarity.

This is correct.

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

6'1", 190 lbs. Never measured BF, but I've been athletic and physically active most of my lift. I read NMMNG and am reading MMSLP and WISNIFG. To be honest, I've been slacking in my reading.

Mommy is glad you’re taking orders so well. Does She tell you when to poop also? Can you see how it’s

We live in NY and work on Long Island, which is connect to Queens, NY. Queens has the most cases of COVID. Her parents are both over 70 and her father has breathing issues from Agent Orange and 9/11. Me taking a shower was a way to mitigate the risk of exposing them a virus that could kill them.

B) Talking about fight club

I never said "since I've joined MRP I've stopped losing my shit". I said that to this group. I told her that it's been a long time since I've lost my shit.

Im curious: how did her parents act during this whole thing? Did they say anything, body language, facial expressions... etc)

How is /has been your relationship with her parents through the years?

Her parents are both deaf, so I don't know if they heard, but they didn't react. At dinner they acted like nothing happened.

I've had a really good relationship with my in-laws. We've got a long since the beginning.

TBH, this may be beyond the point of no return.

You may be right. I'm spending a lot of time trying to get a new job and get my PMP certification, which could help me a better job with more money. This would help me leave my wife. But, I need to spend more time reading MMSLP and WISNIFG. If things haven't changed in a year I'm leaving.

[–]aita28994 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

No because you showed that what she said got to you.

[–]Praexology5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Is it a small victory? Maybe for you, but one that ultimately signifies a greater defeat.

She's already calling you on your bluff: "I'm going to leave if XYZ" don't tell her. Don't even give her the chance. More importantly: DON'T BE THE ONE TO LEAVE. She can. Don't commercialize your intentions, either do them physically or shut up and continue being a simp.

You should NOT be looking to salvage this relationship. Inb4 "Hur durr but I don't want a divorce because of my child."

Understand I'm not advocating for you to necessarily end the marriage, but it's pretty obvious your relationship has got to go. There is a big difference between a relationship and a marriage. In order for someone to save this type of marriage is for the relationship to die.

Start living as if you were a single dad. That means taking care of your kid-you might get lucky and your wife will babysit. If she doesn't call a babysitter. She gets none of the pleasantries other than being a roomate. Otherwise focus 100% on you and your kid. Get yourself back inline and if she chooses to jump ship LET HER.

Protip:

You have no obligation to spend time with her parents unless you want to.

Protip 2:

Don't have any more goblins with this cloven hoofed succubus.

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I agree with what you say. Financially I can't leave her right now. I have debt I need to pay off and I need a better paying job. I have a plan that I'm following for both.

The following morning I had my bags packed, I made arrangements to stay at a family's members house, and I Was ready to leave. I didn't want to because I want to unfuck myself as a man first. If we haven't made any progress in a year I'm out.

[–]aita28992 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why would you want a better paying job? If you already make more she will rape you. You need a way to make her financially on the same level as you or you go down to hers.

Otherwise you will be paying for her to have your kid hear her back getting blown out by every guy she brings home.

[–]creating_my_life9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

I only have a little bit, so I'm going to shoot from the hip now.

You're a career beta. She knows it. Everyone knows it. Except you. You've found MRP, and now you're a child playing with dynamite. And shit blows up some times.

She's just had a baby. You're in NY. Coronavirus is fucking up the world. She's at HER PARENTS house. (hint: she's not at your extra house in the Hamptons). SHE'S SCARED AS FUCK. And, she has no alpha, no oak, no man around to help her know it's all going to be okay; because that sure as fuck isn't you.

She's not afraid of losing you. You're not worth keeping. She can get another beta like you in a heartbeat. She knows this because she has her orbiters in tow. She also knows no other woman will fuck you; and she trickles out just enough sex to keep you from being too whiney.

You have about ONE FUCKING DAY to grow a sense of masculinity and start leading this family in ways you don't know how. Every damn person in that house should be fucking thankful that you have Shit Under Control. You don't even have your own shit under control.

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You're a career beta. She knows it. Everyone knows it. Except you. You've found MRP, and now you're a child playing with dynamite. And shit blows up some times.

100% accurate.

She's just had a baby. You're in NY. Coronavirus is fucking up the world. She's at HER PARENTS house. (hint: she's not at your extra house in the Hamptons). SHE'S SCARED AS FUCK. And, she has no alpha, no oak, no man around to help her know it's all going to be okay; because that sure as fuck isn't you.

She had a baby a year ago. The idea to leave the city and go her parents' house was my idea. She wanted to stay in the city, so she does have someone she can rely on.

[–]Whatev221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to give her a daily, disciplined routine so her hamster isn’t just running circles all day. Plan the next day every evening.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

“my wife has come at me like a fucking cop.”

Because you’re acting like a weak faggot and she lost all attraction to you. She hates you because you aren’t providing any feelz and tingles for her. She keeps shit testing you and continuously fail them.

You want her to be happy when you come home? Become a strong attractive man.

Start reading ===>

[–]RedPillGlasses2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Probably hates her entire life. Who the fuck wants to live with their parents? How are you going to have hot monkey sex when either you’re 1 year old, or your 75 year old mother, is going to hear you?

Bad call to move in with parents OP.

[–]wkndatbernardus3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Hey guys, my wife pimp slapped me in front of her parents but I just STFU and walked away. My frame is rock solid, amiright?"

[–]man_in_the_worldRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I said nothing for two reasons. One, I was absolutely floored. I literally said nothing and she lost it. The second reason I didn’t say anything is because of the STFU mantra.

Did I manage to maintain Frame?

No. You can't maintain what you never had.

You're only at the beginning of Phase 1: "Stop operating in her frame." But that is where this very long journey for you must start. Carry on!

Here are some more thoughts on frame.

[–]part_wolf1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yikes. Let's unpack this.

I answered her question and then said, “it’s good to see you, too.”

This is an unforced error. You're broadcasting to your wife that her emotions are bothering you. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I then tell, in a calm voice, that if she speaks that way to me again I’m leaving. She didn’t seem to care. I asked if she was sure.

The fact that you're trying to gauge her potential reaction is broadcasting loud and clear that you're highly dependent on her emotional state. In other words, you're in her frame. Do not ask if she's sure. She's probably smart enough to shut the fuck up and hide her true intentions from you anyway. You are clearly not. So, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

You also need outcome independence here. Wife has a bitchy attitude? So what, remove your attention and find something else to invest your attention in. Like your mission. Or lifting weights. Or reading the sidebar.

Boundaries must be defensible, and she *will* test them. If she crosses the line - and she probably will - them you are either forced to leave or risk looking like a huge pussy who can't defend himself. Is either of those things what you want?

Perhaps there's also a bit of gaslighting 101 happening here. Here's what that cycle looks like:

  1. She pushes your buttons because she knows you'll snap eventually.
  2. Eventually you get exasperated and you snap - "Fuck you, honey."
  3. She's holding a fresh new hand of victim cards that she can play whenever she wants.

If this rings true, you've got a whole list of things to work on. By opening your mouth, you are giving up your personal power over how you allow your wife to interact with you. Perhaps you should consider SHUTTING THE FUCK UP.

She brought up how I used to flip out in the past and curse at her, even how I’ve said “fuck you” to her before. I didn’t deny it, but I didn’t apologize. I just brought the conversation back to the fact that I don’t lose my shit and curse anymore.

That's better. After you pointed out that you don't do that anymore, did you SHUT THE FUCK UP?

She straddled me after that and we talked about having sex.

Don't talk about sex. Initiate physically and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

So, is this a small victory? Did I manage to maintain Frame?

Not really, but keep working at it.

[–]FoxShitNasty832 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Too late, wife found out about fight club and he went rambo

[–]part_wolf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just read his follow-up. What a shame.

Leaving this here so other retards can learn from this guy’s mistakes.

[–]JasonStar791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She straddled me after that and we talked about having sex. She ended up “not feeling well” later that night so sex didn’t happen.

This answers it right here. No victory – she played you like someone with zero frame. Keep working on it.

[–]rotkohlblaukraut1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A little late to the replies here, and a couple guys (bobbyperu, mainly) already nailed the main points. But two things stod out to me that weren't mentioned.

One, when she asked where you were and you replied "taking a shower like you said to" or whatever the phrasing was. That answer sucks because it sounds either victimy ("look at me taking this abuse but it's really you at fault") or passive-aggressive. You were wherever you were because that's where you wanted to or needed to be. Better answer is just "taking a shower to make sure I'm clean" which displays that you are doing what you need to do, but not adding the stink of blame shifting or sounding whiny. Plus, it acknoweldges that she's pressing the attack and you're on your back foot trying to defend her attack. I.e she has the winning frame here. This is why DEERing is bad.

Two, your sarcastic response "nice to see you too". Not that terrible in and of itself, but be careful with sarcasm in general. Even though it's popular in the UK, and lots of people talk admiringly of a having a "sarcastic wit", it's not really an attractive way of speaking. Generally it's more of an insulting, demeaning, passive aggressive way of communicating than anything else. Keep track of how often you bust this out as a mode of speech, and keep it in check.

[–]SepeanRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maintaining feels more like a blowjob. Like actual lips and tongue on your dick.

Get out of this shit about talking and explaining to her what she did wrong. It sounds like you made some progress with your frame, but this need to DEER and communicate needs to go, bro, it is holding you back.

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

need to DEER and communicate needs to go, bro, it is holding you back.

I honestly didn't think I DEERed. When she wanted to talk about me I brought it back to her.

[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Financially, I cannot leave my wife yet. I'm hoping to by the end of the year. Normally, she doesn't talk shit, but when we meet at the end of the day, after work, she always comes at me like I'm one of her employees. I've brought it up to her one other time (last December) that I don't like her attitude when she comes home.

[–]Smuggler-Tuek2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretend she is a 2 year old talking to you. How much do you give a shit now? How do you handle it now?

[–]tspitsatgp0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Jaysus.

Where’s the fun? Your wife’s coming at you with a temper tantrum? Have fun with it, don’t be sarcastic, be fun Daddy.

Your wife says you don’t talk to her anymore? You know it’s possible to talk without complaining. If you are incapable of opening your mouth without being a little bitch then sure maybe going full autist mute is the right path.

When you get home: bring energy, bring fun. Imagine yourself as a weather system, when you walk in the room the sun starts to fucking shine. A little puddle of mutter from a temper tantrum evaporates pretty quickly when it’s sunny.

[–]AltrusiticPound[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When you get home: bring energy, bring fun. Imagine yourself as a weather system, when you walk in the room the sun starts to fucking shine. A little puddle of mutter from a temper tantrum evaporates pretty quickly when it’s sunny.

Sounds like solid advice. I will start acting cheery AF when I get home.



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