The importance of low body fat and how attractive ypu could be

reluctantly_red · 2018-04-20T03:43:41+00:00

I've lost over 110 pounds in the last year. The difference is amazing. My face looks 100% better! I'm old (53) but at my new weight I'm getting attention from women 15 years younger -- its really cool.

MattyAnon · 2018-04-20T12:24:50+00:00

Dont know what everyones opinion is on this but personally i think alot of guy that think they are ugly dont really know what ugly is because all their life they have hidden any beauty they may have under all that fat

This is the case. Most men could be a lot better looking with less body fat and especially less facial fat. The classic good looks (chiseled jaw, high cheekbones) are directly related to low bodyfat.

TheBalancedMan · 2018-04-20T03:38:07+00:00

You are correct sir. However I don’t think someone should cut until they have 2 solid years of lifting and are over 16% body fat. I started a cut January 1st, I was 197lbs about 20% bf (post dirty bulk) and have been slowly cutting since then. I’m currently 177 and probably around 14% now but I could be way off. I’ve already noticed WAY more IOI’s from the thotties at college and my cheekbones show a lot more. I’m cutting for 2 more months so it only gets better. Women will always lie and say they don’t want a mate who is muscular and lean. Ya, bullshit. If you’re lean your SMV Increases a lot bros. Get shredded you sikkunts.

Flying_Wingback · 2018-04-21T05:35:58+00:00

“Nothing tastes as good as being skinny feels” quote I’ve read here that has stayed with me

Mr_Badass · 2018-04-20T01:01:15+00:00

Agree. Most women perfer the 8% to 15% bodyfat look instead of 25% bodyfat bulk mode. Being lean makes you look alot younger and you feel lighter on your feet as well.

dumbkidaccount · 2018-04-20T08:10:19+00:00

90 kg to 86 kg wouldnot be that difference. You are being delusional

But you are right about the importance of low bf.

AnthoxanthumNitens · 2018-04-20T08:41:13+00:00

To add to what you're saying: Low body fat, regular exercise and a clean diet are the most important factors to your looks!

I used to be 115kg (253lb) at 188cm (6'2) in high school and I dropped down to 80kg (187lb) when I was 20, but even after losing all that weight I still looked like a sack of shit because I never exercised and my diet consisted of >80% processed garbage .

A couple years later I started working out and my arms and legs got some definition, but the excess fat on my abdomen, chest and face never seemed to go away. I never could figure out why, until a couple weeks ago when I finally decided to cut all the junk from my diet. The fat is finally starting to disappear and I've never looked and felt this good about myself before.

youlovethisish · 2018-04-20T17:21:33+00:00

I have a lot of facial fat, saggy jowls and double chin. I receive zero attention from women. At 17 I was very skinny and guess what? zero attention because I have no cheeckbones, recessed chin, weak jaw and huge forehead.

Hiromant · 2018-04-21T17:35:57+00:00

If you're natty the "cut to 8% bro" advice doesn't work that well. You'll have to lose a lot more weight than you think, you won't fill your clothes and you'll look and feel like a weak little bitch. You'll be tired all the time, your testosterone level will drop, you'll be moody and depressed and your social life will suffer. If you're older than a teenager the gaunt concentration camp face with a fish mouth at those levels of leanness doesn't look that great either.

Nowadays I prefer to stay a bit higher where I still have a flat stomach but I feel big and strong, look good in clothes and most importantly, enjoy life and stay in a good mood. Facial features are mostly about bone growth anyway, a masculine skull has large and sparse features that aren't influenced as much by fat.

asdasda5453 · 2018-04-19T23:46:59+00:00

my traditional neo nazi gf cheated on me when i bulked to 220, then asked me back when i leaned out at 190. not bullshitting either.

ValuePrestige · 2018-04-20T15:58:36+00:00

Not much fat to lose, still no attention feelsbadman

PaulAJK · 2018-04-21T13:52:20+00:00

There's no doubt that a point comes, after you've been lifting for a while, that your SMV will increase far more from cutting your BF% by a couple of points than from putting in a couple of pounds of muscle.

semirelevantknt · 2018-04-23T03:11:28+00:00

I went from like 18% bf down to 8% bf. I remember a girl I worked with told me one day she couldn't understand why but she thought I was getting more attractive every time she seen me.

Only the next day (after ofcourse banging her for the first time) did I realise the only thing that changed was my body fat percentage due to macro counting everyday and doing a well controlled cut.

Although when I got down to 8% a couple weeks later I was told I was too skinny from a few girls at work (they are fat) and my new plate also joined in on the joke. I believe them though because 6'0 165lb doesn't look that big so the moral of the story is, even though having single digit bodyfat % is nice you need the muscle to back it up unless you want to look anorexic or skinny. I'm thinking an FFMI of 22 would be minimum

jimmysax99 · 2018-04-24T23:32:56+00:00

Great post. There is nothing wrong with working out and having muscle, but I think a lot of guys think if they don't have bulging muscles that they can't get women. This is wrong!

As this OP states, being lean and having low body fat will probably help you today more than anything else. Particularly if you are over 30, because most men over 30 are not lean. Women like lean men as much as they do muscular men, maybe even more.

I believe that being lean is the way to go, because I can spend more time on other things like making money vs working out at the gym. But most importantly, when I am lean, I get way more interest from women than when I was more muscular. I can put some of my lean pics on a dating app and women of all ages swoon over me.

The 30+ go ape nuts, but the 20 year olds like it too. If you don't believe this, try it. You will get women to contact you, but you will also get contacts form women that don't have searchable ads. I never dreamed that women would be on dating sites without searchable ads, but they are there. They simply do all of the approaching, and they like lean men, trust me on this one.

To get lean, you have to eat right and be disciplined, but you don't need to spend a lot of time on exercise. Most of the exercise I get now is simply due to an active lifestyle, which is much more fun that going to the gym, at least it is to me. I'm not saying don't exercise, but if you eat clean, you won't have to work out nearly as hard as you think you will to drop weight. Just be active!

I'm sure there are some women that like muscular men better, but I find the vast majority prefer lean men. The more cut the better, but just be lean with no belly or gut and watch how women will treat you.

MaxwellGaine · 2018-04-20T14:52:55+00:00

Abs on a skinny guy are like big tits on a fat chick.

If you’ve got a gut and blubber under your chin, cut.

If your arms aren’t over 14 inches, bulk till you can grab a handful of fat on the belly.

Viramont · 2018-04-20T07:46:49+00:00

Currently cutting on 1700cal from 170ib to 152ib. It hurts when you lose your face and body gains. In time I will be handsome again

dankmiku · 2018-04-20T08:54:42+00:00

I am on ca. 75kg, 195cm and get no attention from girls. Welp Started to work out and it shows already

apatel215 · 2018-04-20T15:21:22+00:00

Dude you have no idea. The more fat you shed the more defined you will be which will automatically raise your self-confidence and you WILL get the attention (whether it comes from people looking at you or actually approaching you). I went from about 210 of mainly fat down to a healthy 180ish (i have more muscle than fat now) and before the change i never would have thought I'd get as many compliments as i do. Cuz not only will you look good (obviously) but people who have seen you before the change will notice the work you put in to get to where you are. You won't realize how good you actually look till you cut the fat.

ManSoldWorld · 2018-04-20T17:13:54+00:00

Dude, it's amazing as hell. Like, ignore the added attention and respect shit for a second; it's also refreshing to walk and not be out of breath from walking at a somewhat fast clip.

13 pounds lost in the last month (161 to 148), and everything feels good.

megamanxtc · 2018-04-20T21:15:58+00:00

every time you're about to eat something, or thinking of eating something, think about what it does for you, or against you.

if it's junk, and you know you can eat a little junk now or cave and splurge later, get the little junk now.

Consider though, how many empty calories/carbs you're taking in, and how much treadmill time that equals. Then ask yourself, is that much treadmill time worth what you're about to put in your body?

Store_Front_Door · 2018-04-20T06:33:33+00:00

Throughout the years and many bulks, I never bulked to more than 17%, because any closer to 20% and my face becomes the perfect moonshape even with a beard. 15 and lower I get that sharp jaw popping out.

ReadyPlayer15 · 2018-04-21T14:24:39+00:00

Thought I don't have alot of experience (I'm 16) over the summer I dropped 40 pounds and it's incredible how much better my life has become

bottar1 · 2018-04-23T15:31:33+00:00

Definitely experienced the same thing. I'm at 156lb 5'11 now about to start a bulk and my BF is about 13-18% at best estimate and I've gotten wayyy more compliments than normal the past few months.

[deleted] · 2018-04-24T06:21:20+00:00

Welcome to the BJJ community, my brother. Oss!

tapu_buoy · 2018-05-23T19:45:42+00:00

Can you or someone please tell/guide/inform me how do I look lean?

I only eat one meal i.e., Lunch well else only snack in dinner and milk in morning. And I do walk for 3.5 kms every evenin really fast.

But I still have that belly fat not so much like I'm not fat but I'm not lean either which I crave to be. I'm 22 yo please suggest some exercise

I had started solar salutations , those felt really good and opened my mind as it releases muscle pressure built during the day but then I started gaining weight what should I do?

ddbsirt · Fri Apr 20 16:34:42 2018 UTC

Jesus christ. How many of these threads are we gunna get? There was one saying this exact thing in the last couple of weeks.

Lazygeniiuss · 2018-04-23T07:14:49+00:00

I am 6'1 165lbs low bf but still ugly :(

Title	The importance of low body fat and how attractive ypu could be
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