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The Curse of Man

by italianorgan on /r/TheRedPill
22 October 2018 11:16 PM UTC

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Title The Curse of Man
Author italianorgan
Upvotes 714
Comments 97
Date 22 October 2018 11:16 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/53007
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/9qj63d/the_curse_of_man/
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113 upvotesJupoiUrzici1 year ago

A shiver went down my spine as I was reading this. Beautifully written!

8 upvotesIwassleepingawake1 year ago

Hahah was gonna comment that too, well written OP

6 upvotesHtowngetdown1 year ago

Goosebumps here. He’s speaking to me/us

53 upvotesswampbastard691 year ago

Its despicable toxic masculinity like this that has this sub rightfully quarantined!

great writing, please post more.

21 upvotesAreOut1 year ago

this post is obviously so racist and misogynist as well...

77 upvotesWe_Are_Legion1 year ago

I liked this. Sometimes motivation is needed.

It somewhat describes my own waking up.

9 upvotesjackandjill221 year ago

This sounds like people who have a video game/weed addiction.

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7 upvotesjackandjill221 year ago

People don't usually discuss this part. I respect you.

These were never problems I had. I'm an only child that hates dating so being dragged down by shitty circumstances never happened. After adapting to no-one giving a fuck I just dominated & now it is what it is. I respect people who had to have that cathartic moment, that catalyst in that deep dark place that made them wake up & aspire to be more alive.

20 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

OP is the lost bob dylan of our generation. Get a pen and a guitar, my dude. You are very, very good at writing. Its a skill that can be learned, and not taught.

Edit: there are at least 3 things i would steal, shamelessly , now i have to look at everything in your comment history.

37 upvotesavatarofapharaoh1 year ago

Ignorance is the curse of Man.

64 upvotesJaxx_Teller1 year ago

Inb4 the squares start declaring that this isn’t about sexual strategy so it shouldn’t be on here.

54 upvotesitalianorgan [OP]1 year ago

I thought that would happen, their life revolves around sex and women

62 upvotesJaxx_Teller1 year ago

Dumbest thing about this place. There’s a whole fucking spectrum of existence through an RP lens that deserves much more discussion and reflection. But hey instead of furthering the community lets just continue to beat a dead fucking horse.

11 upvotesChaddeus_Rex1 year ago

This post is good because it talks about the mindset of a man. He endures pain.

For a man to live is to endure.

29 upvotesitalianorgan [OP]1 year ago

And yet some of the people who claim to be "red pilled" are closed minded just in a different way

7 upvotesTurkerthelurker1 year ago

I find the phrase of "enjoy the decline" to be a good example of that.

On a personal level, we advise one to embrace reality, accept the blame that only the individual can improve their own situation, and acknowledge that personal responsibility and a mission are what give men's lives meaning.

But when it comes to the level of society, the advice is essentially "fuck it, that's out of your control." What if enjoying the decline accelerates the decline? How does that play into personal accountability? What if the decline can be reversed, it just takes us personally making it our mission to reverse it? Obviously there's a place for the redpill, as it really is required reading for a guy to break out of the bluepill programming received since birth. But after a little time, one should get over the anger and see that isn't just sexual dynamics, but a re-occurring theme of divide and conquer. Of pitting people against each other. Of collapsing western society.

I get that the deck is stacked against men, and there's a long way to go to repairing the schism between the sexes, but it isn't irreparable. If one truly enjoys the decline, great for you I suppose - I wish I did too. But for the most part, the men I talk to don't enjoy the decline - they are just as lost and confused as the women that fell for feminism - even after swallowing the red pill.

10 upvoteslook_good1 year ago

What if the decline can be reversed, it just takes us personally making it our mission to reverse it

there’s a familiar rap quote...”don’t save her, she don’t wanna be saved”

try to be the hero if you want...just know heroes get shit on

6 upvotesTurkerthelurker1 year ago

I’m not talking about playing captain save a ho. The goal is still to become a rp man with abundance mentality. If you can truly enjoy the decline, go for it. I’m speaking to those that don’t enjoy the decline, or don’t take pleasure in the idea of enjoying the decline.

I’m talking about those whose “mission” is opposed to “enjoying the decline” by sheer conflict of interest.

4 upvotesZephyrBluu1 year ago

I assume by "enjoy the decline" you mean the decline of intersexual relations.

It might take a while but the way I see it it can self correct in 2 ways. Either women get too fucked off with beta men or beta men get too fucked off with women.

I honestly don't know what will come first. 90% of young girls are fucking 'thots', vapid and blatantly hypergamous but dudes take it like a dildo up their ass and the chicks seem happy with their bitch boys so idk.

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1 upvotesmarkinsinz71 year ago

I believe they have adapted their views to the times. While sexual strategy is still primary lots of other ideas are coming up. The first and foremost purpose of the sub remains sexual strategy - to show men the true nature of women and how to proceed. Ofcourse things have changed along the way , haven't they u/redpillschool? Lately it's a mix of everything and just generally viewing the world as it is and how to navigate it.

-11 upvotesTheRedPike1 year ago

It's called "staying on topic." You have to do this otherwise people start wandering off into the weeds yapping about all sorts of shit. There are plenty of other places that have topics related to red pill awareness. Some of them on reddit and deal with everything from general politics through mens rights. Or you can sit on the edge of the abyss any watch /pol/ shake the very core of modern progressive thought. I visit these places from time to time and enjoy other topics.

That is not here. This place is about sexual strategy. Enjoy that here. Enjoy other stuff elsewhere.

Shit-ace the concern trolling people or Imma gonna get trigger happy.

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2 upvotesTheRedPike1 year ago

Tantrum removed...

4 upvoteslook_good1 year ago

“Self-improvement for men” minus sex = MGTOW. Rather than bitch here those chubs need to hang out there

3 upvotesTheRedPike1 year ago

They talk about the good old days of TRP, but this has actually been a problem for quite some time.

12 upvotesstrayaura1 year ago

Its ironic that a sub dedicated to men becoming better men, and having better, more fulfilling relationships with women is so vilified.

11 upvotesWiseMonkeyGoodMonkey1 year ago

It's not at all ironic. Better, stronger and more fulfilled men are far harder to control or manipulate.

9 upvoteswendysNO1wcheese1 year ago

There are many different aspects to trp and each post is about one. Some try to encapsulate all. Many here know which posts deserve what comments. Comparative to almost any other subject or group, this place has a lot less contrarians/naggers. Every single place has those people as well as those that take the comments of those one or two people and make it seem like it's almost the status quo. So they go on and then make a comment about them making a comment. People then all agree because they want to fit it and feel better than those that are being reprimanded. It's really fucking tedious. Just like my comment.

7 upvotesitalianorgan [OP]1 year ago

I agree, it's just that some people don't see the big picture

5 upvotesDark_Lord_A1 year ago

And the really sad thing is that most of them are still too scared to approach women.

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6 upvotessprtramp1 year ago

And why did he said that about Nietzsche? I am going to start reading "The antichrist" do you recommend me something else before reading it? Also its my first time in TRP

8 upvotesdongpal1 year ago

you think people state their reason why they said something? you can have the most brilliant idea, a person calls you dumb retard, downvotes you and gets upvoted. and you dont even know why. as I just said many years ago, it should be not possible to downvote stuff without writing a reason

6 upvotesDeadlybeef1 year ago

it should be not possible to downvote stuff without writing a reason

It shouldn't be there at all. Most people are retards, and they take critique as a personal attack, and not as an opportunity to better themselves. I can't count the number of times I've elaborately researched stuff, put it into a post, for it to get downvoted without any counter argument. It's a sad reality, where every idiot thinks he is right, without even losing a second at researching the given subject. Fuck ignorant people.

4 upvotesMoDuReddit1 year ago

I saw that post. It was shit and mental masturbation. TRP is not your diary.

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2 upvotesFirstLastMan1 year ago

I refer back to that post sometimes. It was fantastic.

12 upvotesNormalAndy1 year ago

Really good! The champion’s destination should be victory.

8 upvotesRaizzen1 year ago

Goosebumps man. Thank you for this you lovely thing you.

8 upvotesSquareL11 year ago

i was going to sit at my computer and waste another several hours today. This actually motivated me to get off my but, and start that slow crawl up my inner mountain.


1 upvotesGainster19901 year ago

Depend what you would be doing at the computer.

Online course for a degree, learning a language, reading a book pdf, YouTube tutorials are all beneficial.

Just so long as you weren't planning on pulling the stomach off yourself for 8 hours on porn.

20 upvotesKinkysMT1 year ago

Sounds like my story. Very well written.

17 upvotesdone_diligence1 year ago

Wow. Stunning. It resonates.

9 upvotesTechnical_Progress1 year ago

Very well written. This is the best thing I read all day! Thanks for sharing it

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Just yesterday I passed my checkride and became an instrument rated pilot. It’s generally considered the most difficult. I passed with flying colors, no less.

I started work on that rating in 2012 but college, work, and (most importantly and with most effect by far,) my slide down that very slope you speak of put an end to that.

After a year at a lucrative but soul-sucking job I realized I was probably not gonna make 40 if I didn’t change something.

I left it, and in the skies, my home all along, is where I forge that better man. I’m the happiest I’ve been in a long, long time. Since I became a pilot, really.

I generally just drink black coffee for breakfast and maybe have eggs, some meat, and vegetables.

The weight is sliding off little by little, and I could happily keep this routine up for the rest of my life. I should start lifting to really top it all off.

These posts are the best, tbh. Women can only fill one void and it’s not nearly as big a void as will be left if you focus only on women. Focus on you.

7 upvotesjappycontin1 year ago

That was beautiful. Made me feel the fury.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Wow, this was extremely well written and motivational. Thanks a bunch, OP, actually needed this!

8 upvotesArnoldBateman1 year ago

I would love to see more of this

7 upvotesEkhochambeer1 year ago

Great post man. Saved in case I need some motivation.

15 upvotestheseeker241 year ago

Exquisitely written, please write more posts in this style of prose.

6 upvotessuckisuckilongtime1 year ago

Man that first part is me word for word, I’m really glad I read this.

6 upvotesUnbreakableFrame1 year ago

Do you do birthday parties?

5 upvotesStarfuckingman1 year ago

Why was this removed? Mods?

4 upvotesawaken4711 year ago

Saved this post, really good writing!!

3 upvotesphillysteak5271 year ago

Beautiful man! Love your writing style.

5 upvotes_A_L_3_X_1 year ago

great writing.

that was just the kinda thing i needed right now.

5 upvotesperuvianlurker1 year ago

I needed to read this ty, and more.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Definitely needed this. I've been going back to the ex-GF and hooking up with her because the self-doubter in me believes I can't find anyone else for that matter.

4 upvotesDDXIII1 year ago

Really well written. However, I'd interpret the end differently:

  • The coward is alive. Even though he may be starved until bare bone and covered in thick chains. He is watching you and feeding on leftovers, unfullfilled conquests. And he constantly begs you to stay just a bit longer. He isn't trying to escape by this point. After all, he didn't change much - sitting around, doing nothing, powerless. You may ask "What could it hurt to listen to him a bit longer?". Until you realize: The prisoner always talks about being free, happy and having no responsibilites, as he sits there alone. The difference between you? You are standing straight as you saw past the first hill. The key was never the issue.
6 upvotesnem2k1 year ago

You stop again and again, and relapse and fail, but every time you stop, you last a little longer, and the man inside you comes closer and closer to breaking his chains.

Thanks, needed this today. Felt like giving up over the past few days, and skipped lifting yesterday because of it. But I'm ready to get back on horse tomorrow (no excuses for not lifting tonight - I'm meeting a friend at the gym tomorrow instead)

3 upvotes344354as1 year ago

Can you believe it took me thirty years to realize that having nowhere to be is the opposite of freedom?

11 upvotesdongpal1 year ago

I dont understand the point or intention of your post. What is the pain you talking about? The chains? What is the problem here? My comfortable life?

11 upvotesAreOut1 year ago

Yes. You have to get out of your comfort zone because you can do better.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Posting on reddit all day and never pushing yourself, basically. You’re only ever in the internet. You don’t learn much, don’t do much, and don’t live much. It’s hell.

5 upvotesdongpal1 year ago

Why is it hell? Why do I have to "live much" and "do much" to feel good? What if I feel good when I dont do anything important and I can just relax and do my internet stuff without pushing myself? Why cant I just play video games all day long?

4 upvotesRedUtopia1 year ago

It's probably for people who want more in life

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Because it consistently is either a cause or symptom of depression and emptiness and you being a nihilist edgelord won’t change that the human psyche is grievously damaged by such a lifestyle in the vast majority of cases.

2 upvotesChaosblade14091 year ago

Awesome post. Keep it up!

2 upvotesDeontologicalSanders1 year ago

Which is the curse?

2 upvotes11-Eleven-111 year ago

Played to this song

2 upvotespresto_manifesto1 year ago

This community is quarantined: It is dedicated to shocking or highly offensive content.

People can be pretty fucking gay on this sub. but this isn't gay, or shocking or offensive. Maybe it would be to those who want very much for you to keep yourself (yes yourself, if anyone else was holding you down they stopped a long long time ago, confident that you were irrevocably vanquished and locking your own leg irons, forever,) in a prison loop. I can see why certain types of people would wish to "quarantine" posts like this, because let's face it: if every born leader beaten down by the slow drip of mediocrity and disappointment, were to suddenly all start moving forward with purpose again, the smug ratfucks of the world would be revealed as useless and false as everyone already knows they are, if only subconsciously.

2 upvotesLoze11 year ago

Needed to read this today. Thanks, OP.

2 upvotesSuspiciousBed1 year ago

This is beautiful man, and vividly captures what I and I’m sure a lot of other young men are contending with

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Absolutely great writing, OP. I love the message and the way you delivered it. Keep up the good work brother

2 upvotesOlram_Sacul1 year ago

Look guys, nothing makes sense. Every system, every theory, is just a way to cope with the fact that we are born alone and we’ll die alone. What’s in the middle is only a pasttime. Try to make the best of the time you’re given.

2 upvotesmarkinsinz71 year ago

It's tricky though your message is meant to create action but it's super dopamine hitting too resulting that you could write more n more good shit but it's just different or similar ideas rehashed beautifully with a way of inspiring and provoking your readers or target audience with a considerable force but yet not enough to get them to do shit. It's an ironic thing if you get what I mean

2 upvotesEatMyDragon1 year ago

The best fucking post I red in a looong time. Well done

2 upvotesdr_warlock1 year ago

Motivational speaking mumbo jumbo.

2 upvotesNapalmZombie1 year ago

Very well written, thank you.

2 upvotesCanookAround871 year ago

It should be noted the falling hurts more than the climbing in the big picture.

2 upvotesJefeOfAllTrades1 year ago

This was a very inspiring read. Thank you

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4 upvotesDamiensLust1 year ago

this is pseudoscience, your brain & body have massive amounts of dopamine and it's very easy to synthesize from even a shitty diet. "dopamine deficiency" is known as parkinson's and is pretty obvious & distinct though people on reddit like to take their depression symptoms and try and trace what neurotransmitter they must be "deficient" in based on nothing but intuition and it has about as much scientific backing as homeopathy.

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1 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Could you stop using "god damn it" and "damn" because saying a similar thing as "god damn it" means something like "god/evil spirit(s) pretending to be "god(s)" (in Christian belief) to be allowed to (by someone(s) saying those three words etc.) condemn some humans and spirits by alleged god to suffer eternal punishment (eternal torture) in hell (definition of damn) it"

Torture is a too evil crime.

These things below are related to those things above:

Jewish talmud exposed


Evil spirits, very evil and corrupt secret societies and rich jews control almost all of the governments in this physical world




1 upvotesuntonyto1 year ago

Great writing, I can totally identify the chained hero

1 upvotesdovahkiindolores1 year ago

Thank you - exactly what I needed to read.

1 upvotesCarthaginians1 year ago

I laughed out loud out of joy and connection at this part - I just imagined pump up music and the narrator's voice gets more intense

"You wake up. It’s 6am, and the hour matters. You wouldn’t sleep past 6 for anyone or anything..."

1 upvotesL0neWolfAlpha1 year ago

Great story, I felt like I was reading a story about my own life.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

You didnt just write this lol I read it years ago. Give credit to the original author

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