The Curse of Man

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October 22, 2018
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Title The Curse of Man
Author italianorgan
Upvotes 714
Comments 97
Date 22 October 2018 11:16 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/53007
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/9qj63d/the_curse_of_man/
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[–]JupoiUrzici112 points113 points  (2 children) | Copy

A shiver went down my spine as I was reading this. Beautifully written!

[–]Iwassleepingawake7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hahah was gonna comment that too, well written OP

[–]Htowngetdown5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Goosebumps here. He’s speaking to me/us

[–]1swampbastard6952 points53 points  (2 children) | Copy

Its despicable toxic masculinity like this that has this sub rightfully quarantined!

great writing, please post more.

[–]AreOut20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

this post is obviously so racist and misogynist as well...

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion76 points77 points  (4 children) | Copy

I liked this. Sometimes motivation is needed.

It somewhat describes my own waking up.

[–]jackandjill228 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

This sounds like people who have a video game/weed addiction.

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[–]jackandjill226 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

People don't usually discuss this part. I respect you.

These were never problems I had. I'm an only child that hates dating so being dragged down by shitty circumstances never happened. After adapting to no-one giving a fuck I just dominated & now it is what it is. I respect people who had to have that cathartic moment, that catalyst in that deep dark place that made them wake up & aspire to be more alive.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP is the lost bob dylan of our generation. Get a pen and a guitar, my dude. You are very, very good at writing. Its a skill that can be learned, and not taught.

Edit: there are at least 3 things i would steal, shamelessly , now i have to look at everything in your comment history.

[–]avatarofapharaoh36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ignorance is the curse of Man.

[–]Jaxx_Teller63 points64 points  (38 children) | Copy

Inb4 the squares start declaring that this isn’t about sexual strategy so it shouldn’t be on here.

[–]italianorgan[S] 53 points54 points  (37 children) | Copy

I thought that would happen, their life revolves around sex and women

[–]Jaxx_Teller61 points62 points  (20 children) | Copy

Dumbest thing about this place. There’s a whole fucking spectrum of existence through an RP lens that deserves much more discussion and reflection. But hey instead of furthering the community lets just continue to beat a dead fucking horse.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post is good because it talks about the mindset of a man. He endures pain.

For a man to live is to endure.

[–]italianorgan[S] 28 points29 points  (5 children) | Copy

And yet some of the people who claim to be "red pilled" are closed minded just in a different way

[–]Turkerthelurker6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

I find the phrase of "enjoy the decline" to be a good example of that.

On a personal level, we advise one to embrace reality, accept the blame that only the individual can improve their own situation, and acknowledge that personal responsibility and a mission are what give men's lives meaning.

But when it comes to the level of society, the advice is essentially "fuck it, that's out of your control." What if enjoying the decline accelerates the decline? How does that play into personal accountability? What if the decline can be reversed, it just takes us personally making it our mission to reverse it? Obviously there's a place for the redpill, as it really is required reading for a guy to break out of the bluepill programming received since birth. But after a little time, one should get over the anger and see that isn't just sexual dynamics, but a re-occurring theme of divide and conquer. Of pitting people against each other. Of collapsing western society.

I get that the deck is stacked against men, and there's a long way to go to repairing the schism between the sexes, but it isn't irreparable. If one truly enjoys the decline, great for you I suppose - I wish I did too. But for the most part, the men I talk to don't enjoy the decline - they are just as lost and confused as the women that fell for feminism - even after swallowing the red pill.

[–]look_good9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

What if the decline can be reversed, it just takes us personally making it our mission to reverse it

there’s a familiar rap quote...”don’t save her, she don’t wanna be saved”

try to be the hero if you want...just know heroes get shit on

[–]Turkerthelurker5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m not talking about playing captain save a ho. The goal is still to become a rp man with abundance mentality. If you can truly enjoy the decline, go for it. I’m speaking to those that don’t enjoy the decline, or don’t take pleasure in the idea of enjoying the decline.

I’m talking about those whose “mission” is opposed to “enjoying the decline” by sheer conflict of interest.

[–]ZephyrBluu3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I assume by "enjoy the decline" you mean the decline of intersexual relations.

It might take a while but the way I see it it can self correct in 2 ways. Either women get too fucked off with beta men or beta men get too fucked off with women.

I honestly don't know what will come first. 90% of young girls are fucking 'thots', vapid and blatantly hypergamous but dudes take it like a dildo up their ass and the chicks seem happy with their bitch boys so idk.

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[–]markinsinz70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I believe they have adapted their views to the times. While sexual strategy is still primary lots of other ideas are coming up. The first and foremost purpose of the sub remains sexual strategy - to show men the true nature of women and how to proceed. Ofcourse things have changed along the way , haven't they u/redpillschool? Lately it's a mix of everything and just generally viewing the world as it is and how to navigate it.

[–]modTheRedPike[M] -12 points-11 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's called "staying on topic." You have to do this otherwise people start wandering off into the weeds yapping about all sorts of shit. There are plenty of other places that have topics related to red pill awareness. Some of them on reddit and deal with everything from general politics through mens rights. Or you can sit on the edge of the abyss any watch /pol/ shake the very core of modern progressive thought. I visit these places from time to time and enjoy other topics.

That is not here. This place is about sexual strategy. Enjoy that here. Enjoy other stuff elsewhere.

Shit-ace the concern trolling people or Imma gonna get trigger happy.

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[–]look_good3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

“Self-improvement for men” minus sex = MGTOW. Rather than bitch here those chubs need to hang out there

[–]modTheRedPike2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They talk about the good old days of TRP, but this has actually been a problem for quite some time.

[–]strayaura11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its ironic that a sub dedicated to men becoming better men, and having better, more fulfilling relationships with women is so vilified.

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not at all ironic. Better, stronger and more fulfilled men are far harder to control or manipulate.

[–]wendysNO1wcheese8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

There are many different aspects to trp and each post is about one. Some try to encapsulate all. Many here know which posts deserve what comments. Comparative to almost any other subject or group, this place has a lot less contrarians/naggers. Every single place has those people as well as those that take the comments of those one or two people and make it seem like it's almost the status quo. So they go on and then make a comment about them making a comment. People then all agree because they want to fit it and feel better than those that are being reprimanded. It's really fucking tedious. Just like my comment.

[–]italianorgan[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree, it's just that some people don't see the big picture

[–]Dark_Lord_A4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

And the really sad thing is that most of them are still too scared to approach women.

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[–]sprtramp5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

And why did he said that about Nietzsche? I am going to start reading "The antichrist" do you recommend me something else before reading it? Also its my first time in TRP

[–]1dongpal7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

you think people state their reason why they said something? you can have the most brilliant idea, a person calls you dumb retard, downvotes you and gets upvoted. and you dont even know why. as I just said many years ago, it should be not possible to downvote stuff without writing a reason

[–]Deadlybeef5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

it should be not possible to downvote stuff without writing a reason

It shouldn't be there at all. Most people are retards, and they take critique as a personal attack, and not as an opportunity to better themselves. I can't count the number of times I've elaborately researched stuff, put it into a post, for it to get downvoted without any counter argument. It's a sad reality, where every idiot thinks he is right, without even losing a second at researching the given subject. Fuck ignorant people.

[–]MoDuReddit3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I saw that post. It was shit and mental masturbation. TRP is not your diary.

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[–]FirstLastMan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I refer back to that post sometimes. It was fantastic.

[–]NormalAndy11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really good! The champion’s destination should be victory.

[–]Raizzen7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Goosebumps man. Thank you for this you lovely thing you.

[–]SquareL17 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

i was going to sit at my computer and waste another several hours today. This actually motivated me to get off my but, and start that slow crawl up my inner mountain.

thanks.

[–]Gainster19900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Depend what you would be doing at the computer.

Online course for a degree, learning a language, reading a book pdf, YouTube tutorials are all beneficial.

Just so long as you weren't planning on pulling the stomach off yourself for 8 hours on porn.

[–]KinkysMT19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like my story. Very well written.

[–]done_diligence16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow. Stunning. It resonates.

[–]Technical_Progress8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very well written. This is the best thing I read all day! Thanks for sharing it

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just yesterday I passed my checkride and became an instrument rated pilot. It’s generally considered the most difficult. I passed with flying colors, no less.

I started work on that rating in 2012 but college, work, and (most importantly and with most effect by far,) my slide down that very slope you speak of put an end to that.

After a year at a lucrative but soul-sucking job I realized I was probably not gonna make 40 if I didn’t change something.

I left it, and in the skies, my home all along, is where I forge that better man. I’m the happiest I’ve been in a long, long time. Since I became a pilot, really.

I generally just drink black coffee for breakfast and maybe have eggs, some meat, and vegetables.

The weight is sliding off little by little, and I could happily keep this routine up for the rest of my life. I should start lifting to really top it all off.

These posts are the best, tbh. Women can only fill one void and it’s not nearly as big a void as will be left if you focus only on women. Focus on you.

[–]jappycontin6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

That was beautiful. Made me feel the fury.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow, this was extremely well written and motivational. Thanks a bunch, OP, actually needed this!

[–]ArnoldBateman7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would love to see more of this

[–]Ekhochambeer6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post man. Saved in case I need some motivation.

[–]theseeker2414 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exquisitely written, please write more posts in this style of prose.

[–]suckisuckilongtime5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man that first part is me word for word, I’m really glad I read this.

[–]UnbreakableFrame5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do you do birthday parties?

[–]Starfuckingman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why was this removed? Mods?

[–]awaken4713 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Saved this post, really good writing!!

[–]phillysteak5272 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Beautiful man! Love your writing style.

[–]_A_L_3_X_4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

great writing.

that was just the kinda thing i needed right now.

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[–]peruvianlurker4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I needed to read this ty, and more.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Definitely needed this. I've been going back to the ex-GF and hooking up with her because the self-doubter in me believes I can't find anyone else for that matter.

[–]DDXIII3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really well written. However, I'd interpret the end differently:

  • The coward is alive. Even though he may be starved until bare bone and covered in thick chains. He is watching you and feeding on leftovers, unfullfilled conquests. And he constantly begs you to stay just a bit longer. He isn't trying to escape by this point. After all, he didn't change much - sitting around, doing nothing, powerless. You may ask "What could it hurt to listen to him a bit longer?". Until you realize: The prisoner always talks about being free, happy and having no responsibilites, as he sits there alone. The difference between you? You are standing straight as you saw past the first hill. The key was never the issue.

[–]nem2k5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You stop again and again, and relapse and fail, but every time you stop, you last a little longer, and the man inside you comes closer and closer to breaking his chains.

Thanks, needed this today. Felt like giving up over the past few days, and skipped lifting yesterday because of it. But I'm ready to get back on horse tomorrow (no excuses for not lifting tonight - I'm meeting a friend at the gym tomorrow instead)

[–]344354as2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can you believe it took me thirty years to realize that having nowhere to be is the opposite of freedom?

[–]1dongpal10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

I dont understand the point or intention of your post. What is the pain you talking about? The chains? What is the problem here? My comfortable life?

[–]AreOut10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. You have to get out of your comfort zone because you can do better.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Posting on reddit all day and never pushing yourself, basically. You’re only ever in the internet. You don’t learn much, don’t do much, and don’t live much. It’s hell.

[–]1dongpal4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why is it hell? Why do I have to "live much" and "do much" to feel good? What if I feel good when I dont do anything important and I can just relax and do my internet stuff without pushing myself? Why cant I just play video games all day long?

[–]RedUtopia3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's probably for people who want more in life

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Because it consistently is either a cause or symptom of depression and emptiness and you being a nihilist edgelord won’t change that the human psyche is grievously damaged by such a lifestyle in the vast majority of cases.

[–]Chaosblade14091 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome post. Keep it up!

[–]DeontologicalSanders1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Which is the curse?

[–]11-Eleven-111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Played to this song

[–]presto_manifesto1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This community is quarantined: It is dedicated to shocking or highly offensive content.

People can be pretty fucking gay on this sub. but this isn't gay, or shocking or offensive. Maybe it would be to those who want very much for you to keep yourself (yes yourself, if anyone else was holding you down they stopped a long long time ago, confident that you were irrevocably vanquished and locking your own leg irons, forever,) in a prison loop. I can see why certain types of people would wish to "quarantine" posts like this, because let's face it: if every born leader beaten down by the slow drip of mediocrity and disappointment, were to suddenly all start moving forward with purpose again, the smug ratfucks of the world would be revealed as useless and false as everyone already knows they are, if only subconsciously.

[–]Loze11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Needed to read this today. Thanks, OP.

[–]SuspiciousBed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is beautiful man, and vividly captures what I and I’m sure a lot of other young men are contending with

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely great writing, OP. I love the message and the way you delivered it. Keep up the good work brother

[–]Olram_Sacul1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look guys, nothing makes sense. Every system, every theory, is just a way to cope with the fact that we are born alone and we’ll die alone. What’s in the middle is only a pasttime. Try to make the best of the time you’re given.

[–]markinsinz71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's tricky though your message is meant to create action but it's super dopamine hitting too resulting that you could write more n more good shit but it's just different or similar ideas rehashed beautifully with a way of inspiring and provoking your readers or target audience with a considerable force but yet not enough to get them to do shit. It's an ironic thing if you get what I mean

[–]EatMyDragon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The best fucking post I red in a looong time. Well done

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Motivational speaking mumbo jumbo.

[–]NapalmZombie1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very well written, thank you.

[–]CanookAround871 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It should be noted the falling hurts more than the climbing in the big picture.

[–]JefeOfAllTrades1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This was a very inspiring read. Thank you

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[–]DamiensLust3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

this is pseudoscience, your brain & body have massive amounts of dopamine and it's very easy to synthesize from even a shitty diet. "dopamine deficiency" is known as parkinson's and is pretty obvious & distinct though people on reddit like to take their depression symptoms and try and trace what neurotransmitter they must be "deficient" in based on nothing but intuition and it has about as much scientific backing as homeopathy.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Could you stop using "god damn it" and "damn" because saying a similar thing as "god damn it" means something like "god/evil spirit(s) pretending to be "god(s)" (in Christian belief) to be allowed to (by someone(s) saying those three words etc.) condemn some humans and spirits by alleged god to suffer eternal punishment (eternal torture) in hell (definition of damn) it"

Torture is a too evil crime.

These things below are related to those things above:

Jewish talmud exposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ZU8CVdS9Q

Evil spirits, very evil and corrupt secret societies and rich jews control almost all of the governments in this physical world

https://wakeup-world.com/2015/09/23/death-and-the-tunnel-of-light-the-final-grand-trick/

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/religion.shtml

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/language.shtml

[–]untonyto0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great writing, I can totally identify the chained hero

[–]dovahkiindolores0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you - exactly what I needed to read.

[–]Carthaginians0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I laughed out loud out of joy and connection at this part - I just imagined pump up music and the narrator's voice gets more intense

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"You wake up. It’s 6am, and the hour matters. You wouldn’t sleep past 6 for anyone or anything..."

[–]L0neWolfAlpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great story, I felt like I was reading a story about my own life.

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You didnt just write this lol I read it years ago. Give credit to the original author



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