Is it an insult if a woman falls in love/wants a relationship with you?

SerpentCypher · 2020-04-14T12:00:22+00:00

What makes you think women don't want relationships with alphas? They absolutely do. If women could tie them down they would. Men don't find a woman falling for them insulting. They find women settling for them insulting. When a woman has already tried to tie down all the men she was attracted to and failed, and decided to let an attainable guy have the honour of dating her by having him jump through hoops she never had the other guys jump through.

It's the bad deal that's insulting. Imagine some car dealership giving a car to an associate for free. Your associate drives the car around for a few years, gives it a few scratches and a broken headlight and then gives it back to the dealership. Then the dealership offers you the car, for the low price of 35 grand. That must be paid in installments throughout your life. Wouldn't You feel insulted?

passepar2t · 2020-04-14T12:29:09+00:00

If she's only pushing for a relationship because you're a sure thing, she's not in love with you.

JesterMcGavin · 2020-04-14T12:04:31+00:00

It's not an insult for me, it's an impossibility.

RepresentativeSwan1 · 2020-04-14T13:59:37+00:00

Yes if she won't fuck you casually but has fucked other guys casually in the past.

kradient · 2020-04-14T13:21:23+00:00

This is where neurotic Internet concept-castles lead you: “girls falling in love with me is BAD because beta???” Get off Reddit, go get some fresh air (but wear your mask).

DicamVeritatem · 2020-04-14T13:33:02+00:00

Totally agree. I can get women to commit, proclaim undying love for me, easier than I can order a pizza.

Getting a woman to genuinely lust for me requires an act of congress.

I’d much rather have the latter.

throwaway1643 · 2020-04-14T11:54:21+00:00

Not an insult. My current girlfriend who wanted a relationship also slept with me on the second date. We just kept going out and sleeping with each other until she said she wanted a relationship three months in, which was perfectly fine by me.

At the end of the day, I don't care if I'm alpha/beta or whatever.

Like most men, I just want amazing sex and/or a relationship with a hot woman. If she willingly offers both, then great!

Barely-moral · 2020-04-14T13:20:41+00:00

Only if that woman rejected me before or if she never dated anyone of my type before.

I take that as an admission that she is not interested or attracted to me personally but wants commitment/beta bucks and sees me as a safe option.

geyges · 2020-04-14T11:47:22+00:00

Yes, its a total insult if she's not attractive.

2020-04-14T12:15:46+00:00

I ask what the con. Women dont love men. They love what men provide.

DerekMorganBAU · 2020-04-14T13:26:16+00:00

For me?

Yes it is without a doubt. But I know I view shit differently.

Not cause I don't "believe in love" or all that, but because of what comes with it.

I dated an ex once that messed around with a gang banger. She never asked him for commitment obviously, and she never hassled him. Never told him to leave the streets alone. Never asked him how many other chicks he fucked. Nuthin. She just fucked him and kept it movin.

For some that's a red flag, but to me I thought it meant she was real easy going...as in she wasn't the type to hassle a nigga.

Nope. Wrong.

While we were dating (more like going out and fucking every other weekend) she got mad that I went to the strip club. She judged me for that shit real bad. I thought she'd be cool with it and would want to come with me hell a lot of bitches love the strip club.

She ain't like how I fucked other bitches on the side, she ain't like that I used to fuck strippers....nothing. Suddenly everything I did mattered and we weren't even official yet.

You know what she told me?

"I've never felt this way before but it's because I love you."

In a weird twist of fate her confession prompted me to date her cause the playah life was becoming too stressful and she was a domesticated type which is a rare breed (loved to cook every day and clean, do and fold your laundry, surprise me with gifts and Jordans, etc)

But because she knew about what I used to do the relationship was dead before it began. If I didn't answer the phone she'd assume I was at a strip club or fucking one of my former hoes. Shit was eerie af. It was like she became a completely different person as we progressed.

I tried to break up with her but then she'd say "No". Who the fuck says "No" to a break up lmao 😂

Finally I cheated on her and broke up with her, then she tried to OD.

Fast forward to present day and she's working and doing better. We talk from time to time and she told me that she's embarrassed by her behavior from back then.

"I loved you and fell in too deep."

If that's what love does to ya'll then you can keep that shit. I don't want nuthin to do with it.

Troy016 · 2020-04-14T14:41:34+00:00

No it doesn’t . But context matters. If you can actually see the love and effort in the women then yea it’s worth it. But if you realize she’s not into and it came out of nowhere , then it could be an insult .

zino193 · 2020-04-14T18:37:18+00:00

Women want alphas they are the prince charming in stories. And there;s a lot of alphas that do commit. Now, if they stay like that after a few years, that's another thing. But Alpha is not only the fuckboi.

A woman asking for my commitment is the most precious thing she can do. The fact that she is talking about it instead of slipping into that role, puts her in such a vulnerable position that just melts my heart. Adding to that the fact that she knows what I think of relationships, makes all her efforts even more special. I think it's quite a compliment and it takes a lot of courage.

040211092616 · 2020-04-14T11:50:47+00:00

I can attest to this. I’ve never gotten asked for a relationship from girls below my league. Only the hot ones have pushed for commitment (a lot of times before we even fuck)

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Rahim556 · 2020-04-14T13:41:48+00:00

Kind of, I disagree with the premise that women don't go for relationships with guys above their league, they will just follow his lead doing whatever. And more often than not they'll just stick around for low-commitment sex until she breaks it off.

I do have experienced going from the AF box to the BB box in a girl's mind though and that wasn't a great feeling.

A buddy and I had picked up a couple of college volleyball players at a bar and I smashed the same night.

Texted her about a week later and she was super direct in wanting to be fucked again, which is a side of women I didnt usually see. Like those Chadfish tinder messages you don't believe are real. When I tried to set up a time to grab drinks and that's when her image of me changed and she mentioned she already has a boyfriend and isn't interested in dates. Never responded to me again lol.

SeemedGood · 2020-04-14T16:36:02+00:00

And by logic if they genuinely think they can get a relationship from a guy, they obviously don’t think of him as alpha.

Emphasis added to stress the giant presumption.

But you may be onto something...

Back when I was a naive fool and sought a relationship with the woman who is now my wife, she was stunned that I wanted anything more than casual sex from her. When I reassured her that I did want an LTR with her, she promptly executed a brutal branch swing. Over time in the relationship my dumb ass was wondering WTF was happening as it devolved from an AF relationship to a BB relationship. The more I did what I presumed to be “the right thing,” the worse our relationship got.

Fundamentally women want to satisfy both sides of their dichotomous hypergamy. They want both a “sexy guy” and a “relationship guy.” And when I use the term guy I’m doing so deliberately in its original sense - an effigy of Guy Fawkes to be first paraded, then jeered at, and finally burned.

Either AF or BB, they will end up jeering at you and eventually burning you because their attraction is dichotomous. As you faithfully fulfill one role you are simultaneously failing at the other. You literally cannot win because you cannot simultaneously be both AF and BB, and women eschew the introspection, objective self observation, and self critique that would take to collapse their dichotomous attractions like septuagenarians fear the Rona.

Thus, marriage for men is reduced to a constant balancing act between being the AF guy she wants and the BB guy she wants while we hope (in vain) that maybe one day she’ll actually be able to simply appreciate you for your being. Don’t think that happens very much in our society, if at all, so I am advising my son against.

Boss123456789a · 2020-04-14T17:59:17+00:00

Well not till this question came up

moodyblues89 · 2020-04-14T18:55:50+00:00

What the hell is this question? Validation? Has this sub been taken over by virgins????

Simp_Gulag · 2020-04-15T07:04:55+00:00

Love is a great word for getting men to do whatever you want them to do. Just saying.

DogPawDog · 2020-04-15T15:55:12+00:00

Depends on the women. If it is a party girl who spent her youth on sex with many men, then yes.

Sid_Insidious · 2020-04-16T07:21:00+00:00

Women only seem to push for relationships with guys they genuinely think they can get one from.

Maybe, but the ones they think they can lock down are usually well out of their league.

Alpha's may pig out BBQ pork from time to time, but they know they're New York steak material and are not going to settle for 5's and porky girls. Women using promiscuity to hit above their weight are as sad and deluded as men who use resources and money to hit above theirs. If you come to the table trying to buy a seat, you're going to get owned.

Man or woman, the mating arena (house) always wins. So, just deal with it.

901735 · 2020-04-14T11:58:45+00:00

Is it an insult if a woman falls in love/wants a relationship with you?

No, not an insult. And if the feeling is mutual, the relationship can be a beautiful thing.

Alpha is just a concept. A perceived status in the safe, relatively stable, but definitely time-wise limited state of the environment. "Alpha today, forgotten tomorrow."

Entering into an committed exclusive relationship makes every alpha the most beta that beta can be from the point of view of the SM, but if he manages, at least for a while, he gets to play (the held by the balls with a tight grip) "alpha" in the couple. "And then she cheats on him, he fins out and he hangs himself." - because he was not being his genuine self, but instead relied on the "alphabetic" "status".

Title	Is it an insult if a woman falls in love/wants a relationship with you?
Author	Torridtwenty
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Comments	49
Date	April 14, 2020 11:35 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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