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Discovered LTR's cheating activity from 2017

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May 7, 2020

Nexted her immediately.

I had access to her mail, so i easily got into her Facebook...

Checkin wassup, found, some hooking up in 2017(in college) with several guys that year. And it was said to be our best year together.

Thing is, during that time, that month, i had a gut feeling something wasn't connecting... So big lesson is, your gut feeling is almost never wrong.

One thing i admire about the bitch is, she would defend her innocence with her life. I never seen someone defend her herself so much like that. This has blindsided me a lot of times when i suspected something.

Today, i hit her with screenshots, she tried running it down, but she couldn't shake them off, line by line for the conversation, she chocked .

I wasted, college fucking and my time , but that is alright. I cry not. Things are looking good for me past school, i have had offers coming in, now i am just picking the one's with high value.

I am quite happy with this breakup, because man, i have been wanting out, i just needed a legitimate reason for leaving now i finally caught the bitch.

Anyway, i am yet another victim, 5year LTR, i met TRP, 3 years ago. Count me out in exclusive dating, this bitches got none to offer other than pussy.. So not like i lose anything.

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Title Discovered LTR's cheating activity from 2017
Author Soms619
Upvotes 288
Comments 143
Date 07 May 2020 11:30 AM UTC (10 months ago)
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[–]TRPCops[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child) | Copy

Fyi since this isn't a question it belongs in regular TRP next time

[–]coldestmichigan181 points182 points  (32 children) | Copy

Be like Pete

[–]CDBaller119 points120 points  (5 children) | Copy

Pete's a fucking boss.

[–]biscuitchapo101 points102 points  (4 children) | Copy

Breaking up with her in person? Badass. Kissing her on the forehead as a final goodbye? Badass. Leaving in a jiffy and not wasting anymore time? Badass. Using experience to his advantage? Badass. Pete is a bonafide bad mofo.

[–]Fredfredfred77756 points57 points  (0 children) | Copy

Having the foresight to not pull the trigger immediately, and to wait til she was at her place so he could break it off and fuck off rather than having to kick her out of his place.

[–]BigDickEnergy12320 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'd fuck Pete. We all would. Be honest.

[–]DarkestShadeOfRed9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pete deserves your username if we're being honest with each other here.

[–]WyldeCutter4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dudes rock 2020

[–]TrenTookMyBalls83 points84 points  (5 children) | Copy

To make matters worse, I told Dave about what happened and he replied "Oh well, guess that means we can have even more fun then! ;o)" He didn't care about my relationship and my pain - he just wanted a hookup buddy and someone to get stoned with whilst he was in Amsterdam.

Now I've lost someone I love and my best friend - who I was only interested in as friends - has a different motive to me for meeting up.

Perfect example of the hamster. Women will do everything to convince themselves that their "guy friend" (who, btw, they used to fuck regularly) is totally just a friend now. That way when his dick accidentally falls into her again, she has an out.

She's also convinced herself that her "friend" only NOW wants to fuck her, and he never had any sexual intentions before.

[–]CaiusBard9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

We all know talking to an ex-bf is a redflag, had it happen to me when I was much younger and immediately dumped her. That was basically my transition from BP to RP right there after ending that relationship.

What I still don't understand is the "why?" women always do it. Is it one of those things that's intentional because the guy isn't filling a need? Is she doing it to setup a strategic fallback branch to swing too? Or are they all truly that oblivious/hamstering and legitimately think that the ex-bf really just wants to maintain a platonic friendship like she does?

I've never truly figured out the reasoning

[–]1rugged796 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

The question you're asking is more of advanced TRP philosophy. Means you're getting closer to the next level.

Consciously, she actually convinces herself it's true. Women are better at convincing themselves that something is not what it looks like, contrary to the obvious amount of evidence that points to otherwise.

Subconsciously, it's to setup plausible deniability as well as "having your cake and eating it too". This is also easy for them as they don't really learn to identify and address their subconscious desires, and therefore are more easily controlled by them. How are you going to be able to guard against something you can't even identify?

There is also a whole mess of issues related to things women aren't taught nowadays. Sacrifice, responsibility, accountability and the fact that if you want to lead a relationship, or lead anything in life, you have to work harder than anyone else. Hence, why the guy usually takes the leading role. I can go into further detail, but I'm trying to keep it brief.

The "why" is a combination of reasons, but the two biggest ones are usually:

  1. She's too comfortable. No chick that's insecure about their relationship is gonna risk this trip. She's too busy trying to keep you around. The guy might have provided too much comfort without reminding her she's replaceable and that she has to make him want to be in a relationship. It's not a right, it's a privilege.

  2. On a subconscious level, women are trying to actively take your manhood from the moment you meet/date them. If they succeed in taking your manhood, they will leave you for a man who is everything you were when you first met her.

This second point is addressed in the whole caveman alpha discussion.

But yeah, advanced TRP philosophy about women can be complicated. Keep asking the right questions, we'll keep answering them.

[–]CaiusBard0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hey, thanks for the reply. It was just something I was intellectually curious about, but obviously doesn't affect my decision to immediately drop them one way or the other.

I just found it an odd phenomenon that so many seem to do it despite it always causing problems (unless the guy is a simp before). I thought it was either

a) to logically keep someone as a backup but that seemed unlikely due to "women logic" lol

b) because they hamster their way into thinking he can just be a beta orbiter friend even though 99% of the time it's never the case on the other end. And this also seemed hard to believe that so many women could be that dumb to get tricked by this

[–]1rugged790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah most of the reasons why women do this is in the Sidebar.

Most of the time what it comes down to is, most women mistakenly believe they have more worth than their vagina. They've never stopped to assess what it is about them that's worth more than their vagina. So they go into the world thinking men wanna know them for some shit like their personality or humor. Never mind the fact that they never took the time to grow a personality or a sense of humor or whatever.

So they think: He's my friend because he laughs at my jokes and thinks I'm cool.

The dude thinks: If I hang around, she's gonna let me hit it.

[–]1rugged790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Was going to write something similar, but you said it all haha.

[–]Fusionnn58 points59 points  (0 children) | Copy

The stupid cunt is always bringing up "abusers" and "potential abuse", trying to somehow weasel her way into being a victim, typical woman never taking responsibility and always deflecting

[–]RivenHalf57 points58 points  (0 children) | Copy

The best part of this is Pete's attitude. No anger, no butt hurt, just a man firmly enforcing his boundaries on his life.

"Is this an ultimatum?"
"No, there is no options...I am breaking up with you."

Biggest example of frame control I've seen in my entire life, holy shit. Go Pete, go!

[–]sofferenzah47 points48 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pete is a fucking savage

[–]psychotropy38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pete & OP have something all men should have: Self-Respect. Good for both these gentlemen.

[–]TRP_Scepter23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

"No, its not an ultimatum. I've decided to break up with you. I have not presented you with any options. I just came to say goodbye."

I'd buy Pete a beer just for this line alone.

[–]travlingsomewhere15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

I just spent like 20 minutes reading that and all the comments.

She was a jackass.

[–]BigDickEnergy12312 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

I jacked off to the story, too.

Can't say I blame you for doing the same.

[–]thefunk91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

lmfao. this dude was a G

[–]alphabachelor12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy


You know she is going to be bitching about Pete to her future cuck hubby and on her deathbed.

[–]qiis8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn her excuses that she gave to Pete was literally the same excuses that my ex was using about still staying in contact with her ex. She did eventually cheat on me with her ex. So I know from first hand experience that women like her are not LTR material at all.

[–]JSP0711 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy


Have you considered calling him abusive?

😂😂😂 gold

P.s Who has the Zach and Jenny fiasco archived from a few years back that was comedy gold as well?

[–]spartanblood15 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

hahaha fuck her, he WON. Theres no coming back from that

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wtf, how easily she calls her boyfriend "abuser" and "controlling" while he is the only sane person in that situation. What the actual fuck is wrong with girls?

[–]swallowthisthrowaway5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

This post got posted years ago and it got linked to TRP. I can't believe it's been copied word for word and reposted again.

[–]ZeppKfw8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

It is 3 years ago. It's not a repost

[–]swallowthisthrowaway2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah my bad I saw posted 55 minutes ago and assumed it had been reposted, never saw the 2016 marker on the top right.

[–]travlingsomewhere5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s in the archives. I forgot the URL but you can find any post on Reddit that’s been deleted or removed by using a certain url.

[–]IATAsshole2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome, never seen the post.

Needed to learn of Pete's badassery. What an extraordinary man!

[–]420BJsGamble0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


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[–]checkmarks2640 points41 points  (1 child) | Copy

Rule 1, you’re in charge of your own life. It never hurts to consider alternatives to something you want, but ultimately you should do what’s best for you. Don’t waste your time again, time is the most valuable asset.

[–]Ill_mumble_that4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This changes a bit when you have kids. Its best to learn Bitch Management and avoid these kinds of problems.

[–]notWhatIsTheEnd24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy

Warning: sometimes they won't cave and you'll end up with a threesome. Still not worth staying, but id recommend nexting her after threesome... For science.

[–]antariusz3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or you just stay in the relationship and continue having threesomes and fucking around on the side as well. This only fails if the dude legitimately can’t pull in other girls consistently.

[–]Grandazer5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

easier said than done.
I hard nexted a bitch and she attempted suicide got into WAAAAY more drama, not only with her but with her parents and friends

[–]27billion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She sounds like such a keeper. And its easy to do if you grab your fucking nuts and stop pussyfooting around it.

[–]monky-loves-you132 points133 points  (2 children) | Copy

Glad this isn't a post asking what to do. Good on you for nexting her immediately. Always trust but verify.

[–]Pyrrhus27252 points53 points  (1 child) | Copy

I mean if you’re on asktrp, most of the posts are going to be asking about something

[–]hiddenpersona76 points77 points  (21 children) | Copy

I’m glad you nexted and moved on.

There is no future LTR or wife for me. I know what girls are capable of in the presence of a hot man.

I experienced those things first hand.

I fingered a girl in a club and found out her bf was getting drinks and in a huge line. She introduced me as her college friend then moved on. I was like ??

I had a threesome with two traveling girls. Next week found out they both has husbands waiting at home. She still texts me she would like to see me when she visits my town again. I’m like ???

I had a blowjob from a girl in my car after a party, then dropped off her at some place. Guess where? Her boyfriend broke his legs, she is taking care of him tonight. I’m like ??

My buddy was hanging out with a girl but didn’t really tell us her name or her pictures. Just stories. I met with this chick and fucked her in my car. Then her phone started ringing. Guess who, it was my friend. Ugly thing is she knew I was his friend. I just didn’t know this bitch was his girl at that time. My friend didn’t believe me and we stopped talking. Why? Because some horny bitch craved some dick and drama that day.

Hanging out with a couple, the bf goes to bathroom. Suddenly the girl dropped something on the floor and crawls with her ass out towards me and my other friend. We are like ??

Those things happen not because I’m some sort of a greek god bodied chad. I’m a regular guy maybe with a good face and average height and semi fit body.

I don’t like fucking around with friends girls either. This just happens because a bitch is a bitch.

After all those experiences I simply can’t have a LTR or a wife.

Cheating for women has nothing to do with loyalty. It’s just part of the game. It’s like being on a clean diet and cheating every now and then for taste. It’s normal for them.

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[–]hiddenpersona4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I don’t want to create a family. I come from a drama heavy, shattered to dust, full of backstabbers family both men and women and I don’t buy the happy family dinner table scene. It doesn’t please me. I don’t like constant fights. I don’t like children. If only somehow I had a boy I would raise him but I would abandon if someone shows up with my daughter.

Anyway. I totally get your point though. For cheaters and other bullshit the best way is to find a way low smv girl than you both socially, physically and mentally. She must be grown up in a humble household, not too rich not so poor. Maybe countryside. A not so attractive mother figure that gave it all to her husband and children and she learned from her mother. It needs to be super traditional and maybe religious if that shines your bones.

This is the safest option. Even with this woman, you might once wake up to take a walk at night and see your neighbor or friend fucking your girl in the barn because she was all innocent and family woman all her life and she wanted some action.

Your best bet? Ignore. Know that she will cheat, so you cheat as well. You both will know you are together for the household you are building.

But why bother? If your goal is family, join a brotherhood. If you like noise and drama in your life, live with some people.

Buy a mansion or something similar and tell your friends to live with you. Invite good looking bitches and let em do whatever they want in the house.

Either way, your family or your friends they are both gonna abandon you and backstab you. at least have some fun during the ride.

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[–]hiddenpersona4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

You have a vision of a quality family that you want to build. I had that too. But that’s not possible in my opinion. The reality will never make it happen.

Maybe it would be possible if you lived in medieval ages and your wife took care of the house when you were bringing bread to table and that was your only option to survive. A good, caring family would work. Hence that’s the origins of marriage?

But, in modern life, your vision is sadly a dream and will eventually break even if you get too close. If you can just dump and move if that happens, good for you my man. But why bother with that? No need to go through divorce bullshit, put your children under misery of divorced parents. We are in reality and trying to survive with all its damaging goods. No need to bring another human to experience the same shit.

Let the unborn be happy and let them stay innocent.

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[–]1rugged790 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It really comes down to personal preference. Some guys like A, some want B. A lot of guys tend to get used by girls, without ever properly getting much in return. TRP gives you the tools you need to level the playing field.

The endorsed contributors have contributed information and helped solidify parts of the TRP philosophy that were once unclear so that the guys here and take it and run. By using the information they and others have gathered here, the average guy can now have a better understanding of life, women, and his options.

Basically, it's like a guide. Or a toolbox. Use what you want to use so you can do what you want to do.

[–]Arnoux0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I’ve seen a lot of cheating as well. Now I am with a girl who kept cheating on her ex. We have a kid together we both wanted (it was not an accident) only after a couple of months of dating. The kid is 9 months old now we have a nice relationship. I hope my partner did not cheat on me in the beginning but hopefully not, I’ve checked her phone in the beginning and she turned down other men.

Before I signed the paternal paper I did a dna test. The kid is mine. Recently we have signed a contract with the girl that if we break up no one can claim money from the other. (I am waaay more affluent than her)

We kinda have a nice life. If she ever leaves probably I will only have to pay child support which is not based on my salary but based on the needs of the kid. Which is not that much.

While she was cheating on her ex(es) she never met any other guy one to one since we started dating. She never went to party since we are together. She does not smoke or drink either.

So things are looking good currently. Also she looks good, she is very sexy, even as a mother.

So what I wanted to say is that you can have a family with a somewhat bitch as well. Just make sure she does not meet with other males, the kid is yours and make a contract which states she can’t take your money.

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[–]Arnoux0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks. Kid support would not be a problem because she loves the kid and she would not spend all of it on useless things like designer bags etc.

She is literally not going anywhere without me nowadays so cheating is not even an option for now. (partly because of pandemic, other part is because she is mainly taking care of the kid)

She won't cheat on me I think only when in her head we are over. At that point I would just accept it probably and will try to find a new woman to start my second family.

She knows that I don't tolerate cheating also I don't tolerate some smaller things either.

Life is short. If you want kids do it while you can even if you can't find a virgin to settle with. Always do DNA test for every kid you will have.

As I said I don't tolerate a lot of things but even if your partner cheats at some point, but the kid(s) are yours in won't matter in the end. What matters is that your kids are always yours no matter what her mother does.

[–]FuzzCod16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

When a girl sucks you off and later introduces you to her boyfriend, do you tell him? Yes? Because bros stick togheter? Or no, cuz you can fuck later or cuz you don't wanna cause drama in the club?

[–]beginner_46 points47 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't because it's none of your business and the simp most likely will blame you and possible even attack/hurt you and not her.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why is that any different than some faggot jumping up to white knight for a chick because he thinks you're bad for her?

[–]hiddenpersona9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Things would be different if I knew the guy. I would tell him what she did but that would backfire. It happened to me once. I told my friend her girl cheated on him with me but I didn’t know they were together, I was out of town for 6 years. He got mad. He said I ruined their relationship and as an apology he said I deserve a punch and I should let him punch me.

I said okay. I will let you punch me, but if you punch me I will fight you back. I said I was trying to help you by telling what your bitch of a girl is capable about. And here you want to punch me. Go ahead I said, get closer to him and showed my chin.

He said I shouldn’t fight back and just accept the punch. Not possible. I said sorry for what happened but if you punch me we are gonna fight and we won’t be friends. Luckily that time I was bigger than that dude, he backed off and removed me from his life.

But in this situation, I didn’t know the girl or the boyfriend. He was not my bro or anyone I know. I was tipsy as well. I just shrug it off and move on. I couldn’t care less about their relationship. I didn’t tell him shit. I just said cheers, have fun, gave a look for him to at least consider what’s up, then moved on.

I wouldn’t fuck that bitch later too. I don’t like cheaters. I don’t like to mess with relationships either. Not a good move in my book.

Not saying I’m all innocent because I’m against it. I did some stuff just to prove a point, but I really don’t like cheaters both men and women.

Once I met a girl at a bar, I found her cute and we were talking. She showed me she is recently married and had a phone background photo of their marriage. She said something like “stop flirting with me, I just showed you I’m married” in a bitchy tone. I was already annoyed and asked her what she was doing all alone at a bar and where is her husband. She said he is in military. I said she should go home. She got pissed and told me I can’t tell her what to do. I said oh yes I can. Next thing I know she was blowing me in her car, ready to drive drunk as fuck. I said no thanks, got out of the car and told her I hope she feels horrible cheating a man and even being rejected halfway through. I said I know what your husband looks like, and I will tell everything you did to him if I ever see him somewhere.

Yes, I started the cheat act. Just because she was annoying and testing me, but I could tell she was horribly regretting everything.

[–]helppc4938382 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should have went through her phone and found the husbands shit and told him anonymous. Do it a favor. And why is it always the military guys getting cucked lol

[–]JohnnyOmm5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lmao what country is this in

[–]hiddenpersona1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Los Angeles, USA

[–]tyalanm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Los Feliz?

[–]PhiPaul0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Reading your stories just reminded me of a time a few years back when I was blue pilled af. I was with some friends at the bar having a beer, and one of my friends, an alpha guy by personality, but not looks, was eye contacting a bitch for for some minutes. She was also sitting at a table with a group of people. Before we left, my boy said that he had to go to bathroom really quick. That bitch followed him. Not a single word was spoken before, only eye contact between them.

When he came back he said that he kissed her and what else in a couple of minutes of time frame and she showed him the ring, saying that she was engaged and soon to get married. The bathroom was about 2 meters from the girl's table, where her fiance was sitting. Also, the bar was a bar for hipsters, nothing fancy, therefore even the bathroom was small as fuck. There was virtually no place to hide. You just waited in line to enter the closet and take a piss. All for the thrill. She could have been discovered by any of her friends if one decided to go to bathroom.

So it's not just the hot guys that get girls. This friend of mine is short, but has a huge personality. He dominates by his confidence. All natural... back then, I couldn't believe my eyes. It was a lesson from the big picture, a piece of puzzle. Years later I discovered redpill and all the pieces fit together perfectly.

[–]hiddenpersona0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. It’s all about personality first. And girls love that thrill. They love that quick cheat and adrenaline. I mean don’t we all? Maybe men has morals and logical thinking and loyalty and we don’t like chaos and drama as much as woman. They feed on it.

If one thing men like the “chase”, women like the aftermath of shit events happen after they fuck the guy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

Anyway, i am yet another victim

Are you? You were never a victim. Chalk it up to lack of wisdom. Getting engaged at 23? That's a poor life decision. The good news? All this is information to gain wisdom. At 30, I was a million times more competent than at 21. I had a lot of awesome times with fun chicks after college. So don't lament the past, it's a sunk cost.

[–]Soms619[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

So don't lament the past, it's a sunk cost.

Couldnt agree more... Yeah i knew i was in the pits, i mean i found trp when i was 2 years balls deep, with the bitch, took it lightly but grew with it. Here i am, finally trp showed up to my doorstep to give me full membership.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Swallowing the Redpill means you've come to the realization that you were plugged into the matrix. Some day when you run into her and she's got three kids from two other guys thank her for doing you the favor of pushing you to unplug yourself.

Neo: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

Morpheus: No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.

Go forth and slay.

[–]ay-fuh-q50 points51 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thing is, during that time, that month, i had a gut feeling something wasn't connecting... So big lesson is, your gut feeling is almost never wrong.


One thing i admire about the bitch is, she would defend her innocence with her life. I never seen someone defend her herself so much like that. This has blindsided me a lot of times when i suspected something.

Gentlemen.... understand this. A woman who is cheating will lie and deny better than any man who gets accused of lying. The tears come on. The "how can you not trust me" lines come out. They will act offended, upset, hurt, etc., that you could accuse them of something so horrible. And the kicker... they say this with HIS cum still on her breath. I lived this shit. It's amazing how far women will carry the betrayal. Lies. Trickle truths. Gaslighting. Manipulation.

Today, i hit her with screenshots, she tried running it down, but she couldn't shake them off, line by line for the conversation...

I had to do that once. When she was in the "nothing happened" stage, she showed me edited screenshots, where she deleted PARTS of the conversation. The conversation made it look like it was all him. Years later, I found the REAL screenshots in her email. She saved the full conversation for herself before editing the conversation for me to see. Cheaters will deny everything until faced with facts IN WRITING or IN VIDEO or IN PICTURES.

I am quite happy with this breakup, because man, i have been wanting out, i just needed a legitimate reason for leaving now i finally caught the bitch.

Your main point of weakness. You wanted to leave her anyway, but waited for a reason. "Because I feel like it" is a reason. Work on this area.

Glad you nexted her. Many guys these days would be asking TRP what to do next.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, wanting to breakup is a perfectly valid reason to breakup.

[–]Soms619[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks OP, taking all this in and realizing AWALT

[–]macheagle13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

You’re one of the lucky few, OP. Take it from someone who found out years into a 6-year LTR while already in the corporate world and the two of us met on a business trip. We were in the same industry and knew each other’s clients, colleagues, etc. We were also living together. When it’s that invested and you’re much older, the immediate consequences of a breakup is much greater. It takes longer to recover also.

So go out and celebrate bro!!! You’re young and looking back I would rather have experienced that younger rather than older.

[–]Soms619[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Odin is with me brother. The gods show favor. Thanks,

lockdown ends tomorrow in my country and guess what! PUBS will be open and bitches will be horny af

[–]macheagle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good huntin’ brother

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[–]macheagle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Where I am the bars are reopening exactly today and social distancing measures are eased today also. There have been no new cases for more than 2 weeks straight where I am. (I’m not based in the US.)

[–]AuberyBitoni13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's crazy how they can lie to your face, even when you know the truth. They're so good at lying, they would almost start believing they actually didn't cheat.

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY20028 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The tragedy is, is that many women do believe they haven't cheated.

[–]Soms619[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bruh the bitch would even start to cry, and you would start thinking maybe you wrong about this.. Smh...

[–]TheMainGerman7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Remember: Can't ever really trust women. Especially today.

[–]Soms619[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

With my heart. It takes experience to show to man, whats what and what's not

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

After my first relationship, I got cheated on and so I dumped her etc

I was holidaying in her home town shortly after and slept with 6 girls in a month.

Turns out 2 of them were her old highschool "friends" and they knew who I was but I didn't know who they were.

So without even entertaining the idea of revenge I got her back.

Been laughing ever since.

[–]beastin0077 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

There will be tough times coming and you will be tested and tempted and the whole book will be thrown at you. Stick. It. Out.

[–]Soms619[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know the dark days are coming, and i know she will be eyeing for the window of opportunity to strike. Key strategy is to have reliable plates spinning. I will need it for as long as i could to forget about the bitch.

Funny thing is, one of the plates that has recently resurfaced is her friend... Lol.

[–]LethalShade6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It always blows my mind that people can betray their partner like this and comfortably still sleep next to them for years onward.

[–]Rkingpin11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're on the right path.

Count me out in exclusive dating, this bitches got none to offer other than pussy

Yes she cheated on you. However as a man you must take responsibility for not vetting properly, and also attempting LTR in a hyper-sexualised environment like college.

Dont let this girl propel you into some kind of anger phase

[–]Qba19945 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can you recommend specific material on vetting a LTR?

[–]Soms619[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was blue pill at time of meet, LTR is 5 years + and met TRP, 3 years back...

Biggest mistake of my life.. Not to repeat it ever

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Should have fucked her mum

[–]Wrote 1230 words about This One Girltakka10136 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I feel you bro , i was with my ex LTR for 3 years , similar to you i figured out her insta password and found 2 convos with guys that she cheated on me with , these are the 2 i found out about who knows how many more there was . I ALSO HAD A GUT FEELING TOO . funny how that is . Goes to show u always listen to you gut !!! I fu#ked her off , it was crazy how even with the evidence i had the convos she still trird to deny and get out of it ..... crazy . Just goes to show you they will cheat and if u dont find out they will NEVER EVER TELL YOU . even if u find out they will try to deny it. Ive had a very bad imagine of girls ever since tbh . That was 5 years ago and ive been single ever since. These days i am looking for a potential ltr again but i cant seem to get thoughts out of my head tht they are all cheating wh#res. So makes it pretty hard for me to not second guess girls . Im seeing someone atm it might be over but im always 2nd guessing weather shes a sl#t or if shes actually decent lol ...

[–]Soms619[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That was 5 years ago and ive been single ever since.

Bro, you done well, you have your mind strong. In selecting LTR i suggestion you choose wisely not blindly.. Getting in LTR, sooner or later you realize its a mistake. So assess it cause you are cashing all in.

1st for me, bitch must provide for herself financially.. (she shouldn't be in the process of getting her shit together, no, she has to have her shit together... They can put a facade that they can provide for themselves and soon you realize, its a hustle)

Other thing you will look at

[–]Wrote 1230 words about This One Girltakka10130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah t years is a while , i have the itch for a gf agai but i wont settle for thrash Did you say getting in a ltr sooner then later is a mistake ?

And yeah im seeing a girl now but shes shown me a few red flags so i think it might actually be over im not sure.

[–]__TheDon__5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Another reason not to be in an LTR during college. I would’ve ghosted her without giving her any explanation, that would’ve made her go crazy. That’s what she deserves for cucking you, but good on you for moving on anyway.

[–]Soms619[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bruh, hard nexted the bitch

[–]Temptationn4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Always trust your gut. Remember AWALT is not bullshit. My last LTR was a textbook “TRP Unicorn” foreigner, straight As in school, never partied or drank in her life, virgin when I met her, cooked, clean, etc and after 4 years I found her texting a dude she was in class with. I didn’t even hit the girl with a goodbye. I simply blocked her on everything, and she never even bothered to reach out to me. They are now dating for almost a year now but it goes to show no matter how good the girl is when you meet her, any behavior changes you make (I was losing frame a bit in the end but to be fair I wanted her to leave lol) will result in her leaving

[–]UriahTheChosen5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If anything the lesson to learn is leave when you want to and not when you should.

[–]mysteryspoN4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

This scares the shit out of me... as someoneone going into an LTr just before college... fuck

[–]Soms619[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

She will fuck other guys, they will lot lot of mates. A buddy of mine, dated this girls from high school.. Well groomed and things were looking up for them, until the bitch came to college, and she went on a fucking spree.

My buddy had a gut feeling, cause things weren't connecting... The made up stories... Etc. I can't remember how he eventually caught her... But he went to find, there was a couple more of guys who were hitting it.

The man almost succumbed to the ground. He lost weight etc.. Isolated. This days hes much better, still blue pilled and eyeing for the 1.

[–]mysteryspoN-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

I prefer to learn from experiences so let’s see

[–]Soms619[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol your call.

[–]brianmcg3211 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

LOL. Clueless

[–]mysteryspoN-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]beholdthemaverick4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

When there is doubt, there is no doubt my friend. Our gut evolved over millennia to be able to detect fuckery just like this.

Always trust your gut. You don’t owe anyone reasons for shit either.

You took an L. Most of us have in the past, me included. This was your rite of passage.

Your eyes hurt because you’ve never had to open them before.

Now it’s time for you to write the awesome story of your life.

After you get over this, make peace with what happened, the anger is gone, and you have accepted the parts you played in all this, you will be an ice cold motherfucker.

If you can reach some kind of acceptance, you’ll not only be happier cause you took the lessons for what they were and learned from them, but you’ll be extra vigilant about red flags with future chicks.

You should be giving out your commitment the way they ration meat during a famine my guy.

Keep these bitches perpetually auditioning.

[–]KingGerbz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I haven’t even been here for a year and I’ve lost track of the amount of “I ignored my gut and paid dearly for it, trust your gut” type of posts and comments. Stop thinking your hoe-in-unicorn clothing is the exception to evolution and biology.

[–]dgillz4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You do not need a reason to leave. Stop thinking like that.

[–]Soms619[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tbh i felt bad, kinda hanged in there, but i was drowning. Never to repeat

[–]PRW633 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

now i am just picking the one's with high value.

How do you know that??? If you think they are HV, does every other guy. The ones that are HV get the most opportunity, the more opportunity the more they will go for it,...the HV ones are the ones with the higher notch count,...because they CAN. So everyone of them could be cheating on you.

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn. Good job tho

[–]Lateralanouncer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You, not a victim. You had your Turn with her and had the best she has to offer ie sex. Unless during your ltr you became lazy and didn't grow yourself you didn't lose anything

[–]helppc4938381 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I dont understand this post. I'd say it almost feels like a troll but it probably isn't. It's just how ridiculous the concept is that a woman could throw away a 5 yr LTR. 5 YEARS DUDE! is any guy safe??

[–]cfbovernfl2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guess you're right in that you don't understand it. This was never an LTR to her, '5 years' never crossed her mind. It did for OP because she was his only option -- meanwhile, she was branch swinging and meeting up with other guys while stringing him along for his $ and validation. She probably doesn't even feel that bad right now.

[–]1rugged790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women are just as opportunistic as men. Society just tends to try and frame them as the better gender. But the reason the divorce rate is higher than ever isn't just because of men. Women are just as responsible.

I believe OP because, trust me, I've seen way worse.

[–]bminusmusic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As some others have said, you don’t need a reason to break up with someone. There doesn’t need to be some huge crux moment, which is what my ex thought. It sounds like you weren’t satisfied and had wanted out for a long time yet you settled. That is ok, I fell for the same line of thinking, I stayed in when I just wanted to be free because I felt like she was too nice to me. Ultimately this led . We’re young, it’s best to make these mistakes and realize them now as opposed to repeating them throughout our 20s. Be happy that you’re realizing this now and not years down the road when you might even be legally binded together by marriage!

I’m sorry to hear about the cheating man, but fuck her honestly. I’m sure she tried to defend herself by saying “it was 3 years ago and only like a month!” There’s never an excuse for cheating.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Checkin wassup, found, some hooking up in 2017(in college) with several guys that year. And it was said to be our best year together.

She had lots of her cake, and was eating more of her cake than ever before. It was like the best thing since crack for her.

One thing i admire about the bitch is, she would defend her innocence with her life.

People who lack a functional sense of guilt, remorse, or responsibility can only experience feelings of innocence and wrongful persecution by default.

A related trait to this is a smooth lack of concern for being discovered that they're not what they claim to be.

I never seen someone defend her herself so much like that.

This is a pretty typical trait of people on the spectrum of Narcissism, Borderline, Histrionic, Antisocial Personality Disorders etc. They consist of 100% ego, feelings, beliefs, and image. 0% facts and substance.

Like I said, It's a spectrum of mental impairment from modest to severe.

This has blindsided me a lot of times when i suspected something.

OK, I feel like doing a deep dive here.

In some sense, this kind of narcissism can be seen as a pervasive development delay. That is, a failure to develop more mature mental traits like empathy, a strong connection to the outside world, responsibility, and concern over long term consequences of their choices.

Secondly, women like to brag about how fucking great and special their parental instinct is, but there's really no reason to think there's any difference in parental instinct between men and women. Being a deabeat is largely taught behavior.

Thirdly people on the Narcissism Spectrum tend to respond to being confronted by pulling out the same toolkit in all cases. 1) Charm offensive and denial 2) Hostility, rage and invalidations. 3) Victimhood, pouting, crocodile tears. 4) Discard and pretend the responsible party doesn't exist.

This isn't a coincidence that they do this. It's the same way very young children respond to being confronted by their parents. It's instinctive behavior and the purpose is to manipulate a parent's parental instinct.

So I think the fact that you saw her as being pure, sweet and innocent, vulnerable, flustered, a bit scatterbrained, and this was all a silly misunderstanding you needed to be more compassionate about. That's not an accident. She appealed to your parental instinct to lay off, and not treat her harshly. People with these kind of personality disorders don't really have any other way of dealing with confrontation, so over time and practice than can be disturbingly good at it.

I wasted, college fucking and my time ,

I mean, being lied to isn't some kind of felony.

Plus the sex was good, even if she was really a nasty fake cheating swine, and wasn't who you thought. Better still, you don't have a bunch of medical bills to pay, unlike physical injuries. Cost of treatment and recovery is a couple stiff drinks, maybe.

but that is alright. I cry not. Things are looking good for me past school, i have had offers coming in, now i am just picking the one's with high value.


Hope some of this helps.

[–]Raizzen3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean she’s doing her (aside from a hundred other guys obviously lol). So you do you. Of course she’s gonna protect her reputation at all cost. It’s her profession lol.

In any case you took this like a champ 👊

[–]Stargazer341 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

"i just needed a legitimate reason for leaving "

WRONG. Found the beta

[–]Soms619[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was/am aware this is a beta move.. But i needed to do it this way. Therr is history to it

[–]ViolentInteger1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Today, i hit her with screenshots

Why? So you could vent your butthurt? Get validation from her for your decision? To inflict emotional distress for your own satisfaction?

Each possible reason is a lame blue-pill reason.

Count me out in exclusive dating, this bitches got none to offer other than pussy

And here we have another beginner in RP theory who can't fully understand women.

It's not her fault. It was YOURS. YOU failed to vet her properly. YOU failed to keep your SMV high. She merely acted like the 300,000 years of evolution told her to.

Until you learn and internalize these facts, you will never be able to grow past this level you're at and you will never truly understand the world.

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY20024 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy


OP never cheated, she did.

You can't always put it down to vetting, because even those with top vetting skills get caught out at times.

[–]ViolentInteger1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

OP never cheated, she did.

Indeed. But beginners never ask themselves "why"?

Simple: because your SMV was never high enough to keep her interest and/or you promoted the wrong woman to LTR status. All that is YOUR FAULT.

One of the key markers of guys in the intermediate and advanced levels of RP knowledge is the realization that women aren't doing anything wrong. They're simply acting like evolution programmed them. They, like all humans, are self-interested creatures. There's no anger. There's no "SHE did this...", "SHE did that...". There's just acceptance that her behavior is a reaction to your leadership.

You can't always put it down to vetting, because even those with top vetting skills get caught out at times.

Spoken like someone who is (at best) mediocre at vetting.

No, when you do it properly and your perceptive abilities aren't dog shit, you can see many moves ahead before she even makes them. If/when things start slipping, you notice and you can take corrective action long before it gets out of control. Or, if it's out of your hands, you accept the inevitable and move on with your life. No anger. No blaming.

Mind you, most guys never ascend out of the beginner phase of RP knowledge. Their perceptive and leadership abilities may not improve significantly, either. In that case, LTRs just aren't for them. They should stick to plates and FWBs.

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY20024 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Fair play for the great response (an ace poster), but it simply cannot always get put down to the man for the ending of a relationship.

1) You're putting women on a pedestal

2) It goes against the "Law of Averages"

You can do everything right, and you can be numero uno at vetting, but you will get caught out at some point.

[–]ViolentInteger0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

simply cannot always get put down to the man for the ending of a relationship.

"I refuse to take responsibility for the failures in my life."

You're putting women on a pedestal


It goes against the "Law of Averages"

No idea what this even means. Protip: when presenting a point in an argument, be sure to include supporting statements & evidence.

You can do everything right, and you can be numero uno at vetting, but you will get caught out at some point.

No LTR will last forever... and nor should it. But if your vetting process is solid and navigate it properly, you can use it to enjoy life more for a little while. Most guys--including guys in the RP subs--don't have what it takes to handle it. Again, they'd be better off with plates & FWBs only.

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY20022 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. Agree to disagree.

You simply can't win them all, mate. NOBODY has it all down to the tee, no matter how much sidebar you read or experience you have.

Agreed to a degree.

[–]DaftOdyssey0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

When it comes to disconnect, would it be possible you can make a post about it? Like signs of disconnect or simply just your anecdotal experience

[–]Soms619[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She repriorites her time amigo. Its never as before. That time my gut feeling was telling me something ain't right. She never was available. I made more effort to talk to her than she could care. ( i was blue pill as fuck)

The texting, i remember one time, i complained bout, late replies etc... Man! that was all it. She gave excuses like she has lots of messages from whatsapp groups or she was watching some videos or she was on Facebook.. Etc so with texting... There is a difference for when you was her priority at the start and when other guys came in... Watch for those.

How much she socializes, mine wasnt going to clubs etc (at least that is what i think) but she was social, she knew lots of people.... Lot of girls mostly but guys mostly out of campus.

It goes on and on

[–]Fusionnn4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

They dont smile or laugh with you anymore, when they look at you its almost a glaring look of disgust, general disinterest

[–]DaftOdyssey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hmm will keep that in mind. Thanks

[–]Wtfbyamey-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

But you guys are still lucky, girls there have sex in colleges If you live in shithole India, and that too if in v conservative societies , then it takes atleast a month in relationships to move past base 2 No hookups, no ons, unless the girl is ugly AF, or you are a millionaire

Girls in India don’t give af about your looks Fucking ugly , coldhearted bitches

[–]Ivabighairy11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Da fuq I just read?

Anyone else creeped out by this post?

You hack her e-mail and Facebook and take screenshots because you’re butthurt.

I think this is called stalking.

If you were married, I can understand doing it. But an LTR?

With how whiny and clingy you are it’s no wonder she was getting laid like tile elsewhere.

You are NOT Red Pill nor any where near it.

Hit the sidebar

[–]cfbovernfl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are right! Not sure what's with the downvotes. I'd stay far away from anyone who invades my privacy like OP did to her.

[–]cfbovernfl-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Uh... okay. I don't know why you think any of us care tbh. This isn't even a question and you should be banned. Furthermore, girls will be loyal if you deserve it. Obviously you weren't a great option and she branch swung. Blame yourself, not her.

[–]gtfaf-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just punish her as a plate and move on

[–]Soms619[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wrong move. Demoting LTR to plate would still have think she is an LTR. stuff like that is a beta move. So many pussies out there which need fucking

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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