Anyone else not give a fuck about politics?

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June 4, 2020
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I cringe whenever I see cuckservatives try to equate RP with conservatives. Conservatives preach marriage and traditionalism. Marriage is a bad deal for men and it's a tool used by women to trap beta males. AWALT.

I never vote in elections. I don't give a fuck about left wing or right wing politics.

I'm just wondering whether anyone else here doesn't vote either? I cringe at people trying to co opt this place for politics.


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Title Anyone else not give a fuck about politics?
Author ThrowawaySitevhy
Upvotes 109
Comments 190
Date 04 June 2020 04:10 PM UTC (11 months ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/671844
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/gwkff8/anyone_else_not_give_a_fuck_about_politics/
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[–]2319Skew187 points188 points  (35 children) | Copy

I like to exercise my right to vote. I tend to look at the overall platforms and do a bit of research on the policies and ideology of the people who are going to represent me and my interests.

I try to avoid blindly accepting party lines and herd mentality as well as adhering to any one party due to a loyalty to it.

On some topics, I'm conservative and others I am liberal. That said I know that self interest, corruption and outside influences can and will impact those in office.

I'd prefer voting and being wrong then not voting and complaining about the outcome.

[–]1DonaldBaelish131 points132 points  (34 children) | Copy

OP is underage or ignorant.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (7 children) | Copy

" I don't give a fuck about politics because i'm to lazy to learn how the society i'm in works"

[–]SaintNicolaos0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

If you actually think that politics & voting is how society works then you're the lazy one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

" Politics is the way that people living in groups make decisions"

"Society is a group of individuals involved in persistent social interaction, or a large social group"

CONGRATS YOU'RE RETARDED

[–]SaintNicolaos0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I'm just saying that the world is mostly controlled by mass media & by top psychologists who can persuade the masses without them noticing. Voting has zero effect on the actual outcome of the world.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mind-control-theories-and-techniques-used-by-mass-media/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

the world is mostly controlled by mass media

To me that obvious.

"The puppet master"

The media is how you control a society without direct force.

but politics is still important to understand. To fit my argument into you're frame of reference

you get to see the reason why the world is mostly controlled by mass media. You get to understand why the government makes certain decisions. It not all about Democrats and republicans and voting.

[–]SaintNicolaos0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah I get that & I don't think you're retarded, I'm just saying that I'd initially teach someone about mass media persuasion before politics but I get what you're saying now though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I called you retarded for i didn't know you.

Its the internet. You never know who's behind the screen. There's alot of uneducated people on the internet.

that I'd initially teach someone about mass media persuasion before politics

They coincide. Propaganda is apart of politics. Agreed.

good discussion, take care. ✌

[–]SaintNicolaos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that's fine, but yea I agree, they're one and the same at this point. Good talk though man, take care.

[–]cockkksucker7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

democracy is an illusion

[–]Protocol_Apollo104 points105 points  (13 children) | Copy

You may not care about politics.

But it cares about you.

Doesn’t mean you should become a “political activist” and start looting/rioting for BLM/new 60inch TVs.

Fuck that shit.

But just know, keeping a total blind eye to it and almost pretending it doesn’t exist won’t help either.

[–]thecarryone62 points63 points  (2 children) | Copy

That’s exactly what politicians wan’t you to do.

If you don’t choose, someone is going to do that for you.

[–]TheDeadlyZebra6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

"If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu."

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Correct.

[–]AegonTheC0nqueror10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Came to this country when I was 2 years old. It took me 19 years to become a citizen. I find being able to vote something that so many of my peers take for granted, and I literally vote in every single election because I can.

[–]nikcufboomer41 points42 points  (13 children) | Copy

Libertarian. Fiscally more conservative than Republicans. Vote conservative for selfish reasons. Socially very liberal. Think most Democrats are unreasonable and some mentally ill. Don’t follow MSM because all it doesn’t is amp you up and make you hate everyone, no matter what side you’re on. Take in all content objectively and don’t allow emotions to influence views or conversation.

Edit: If you don’t care about this shit you’re very naive. Or you’re looking for attention here. You sound like an idiot. This shit affects your money and what you can do with it. Look at how you type shit here. Sound like a little cry baby fuck.

[–]jackandjill222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It affects more than your money at this point..

[–]acertainbella-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Inevitably, social liberalism will lead to the downfall of western culture and the final stab to the heart of the patriarchy.

[–]nikcufboomer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Social liberalism is not what I meant by ‘socially very liberal’ .... lol I’m a free market guy.

[–]LLL3peat54 points55 points  (2 children) | Copy

people died for the ability to vote. go vote. seriously. the more you move up in the world the more you realize social constructs, money, and living depends on it. it takes you 30 seconds to vote via mail. why waste it? you'll spend more time aimlessly scrolling through reddit/ig/watching ads on tv.

[–]VisiblePlan-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

People dying doesn't make a viewpoint more valid. People died for the Panama Canal, it doesn't make it worth the astronomical paycheck.

[–]p1nky_and_the_brain12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looking at it in a binary way of 'did people die for it' obviously isn't what op was getting at. People didn't die during the construction of panama canal out of a desire to see it come to fruition, unlike achieving the vote.

[–]Vanhyrac-18 points19 points  (14 children) | Copy

Is a self-reliant and individualistic mindset Alpha or Beta?

[–]Warren_Bateman5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I care about it. I’m not an activist and I don’t go around demanding people agree with me, but policy affects me and I feel justified having an opinion.

That being said, never talk about it. People tie their emotions to single black or white issues and it can get ugly quite quickly. 48 laws of power covers this topic. Feel free to think whatever you’d like, but practice nodding and smiling a lot.

[–]z2a1-95 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

You sound young and in the anger phase. If you don't realize most everything involves politics then you have already lost even before you have started. Politics are a big part of life and once you learn, understand, and realize its importance in life you can become an even more successful individual. I realize it's not for everyone but it does involve and affect everyone even trp.

[–]AncientDragons4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Politics is one of the biggest ways that the individual influences the larger group that he inhabits, and vice-versa. Not caring about this means you don’t care about one of the most fundamental structures of human relation that influence your life. That seems illogical. Not making politics your religion or your identify or your obsession, sure. Keeping to a life of as much self-reliance as you can, sure. But ignoring politics seems like a bad idea.

[–]baldymcgee9194 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Part of being a responsible person is taking an interest in what is going on in both your own house, your own community and society as a whole. You may say you don't care for issues of morality or decency but that's just a lack of responsibility.

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[–]baldymcgee9192 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So what happens to other people who aren't able to look after themselves for one reason or another? The sick, elderly, disabled. People with no one else. You may feel that it's not your problem but if everyone had this attitude I'd hate to see what society would look like.

It is your own choice what responsibility you take on but those choices are what determine what kind of a man you are.

[–]ThinSpiritual4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I give a fuck and exercise my right to vote. I find points of agreement with both major parties. I'll admit though, that in the US, our votes don't matter much since we're an oligarchy enforced through policing domestically and military repression abroad. Pretty much all major legislation ends up benefiting the ultra wealthy who have congress bought and paid for.

[–]WarriorCOW477 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree for the most part although I’d still vote a certain way to keep my country from collapsing or myself from becoming imprisoned in some leftist or totalitarian hellhole. Definitely shouldn’t blindly align yourself with any one political perspective imo, most of it is bullshit.

I strongly suggest men here watch Andrew Tate’s recent video about racism in America and hear out some of his thoughts on the situation and what men should be doing: https://youtu.be/YD5WMcU9myM

Best thing we can do while the sheep fight it out is boss up even more and reach such a high level that this shit doesn’t even touch us.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

I used to. Then I realized that one day humanity will end and none of this constant bickering of whose party is right will ever fucking matter.

[–]notpahimar3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do you also use this reasoning to avoid having sex?

[–]downvotesanimals5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

So what keeps you from true and unabated nihilism for the remaining aspects of your life?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

An article I read a while back comparing life to peice of cake. Why bother eating a piece of cake if eventually it will be gone? To enjoy it. Same goes with life

[–]gotmilo115 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You took it out of my mouth.. Politics to me is causing us to be divided.. instead of working together.. we're fighting each other.. Politicians should be afraid of us, not the other way around.

I do think we should vote cause these Politicians are our employees. We hire them to make decisions on our behalf. But that's just me.

I really don't think politics should be talked about cause it breaks our frame. I shouldn't be bother what someone says or do, but if it crosses my boundaries.. then it's a problem.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I want to. I’d like to vote and fight for causes and get into debates with people. But I’m not smart enough to do so. So in the meantime I’m reading books on how the economy works, is open borders good for or bad, is climate change actually real... etc. basically I’m trying to increase my knowledge first before I actually vote and choose a side. Cause even though I’m not brightest (yet) I’m sure 100% sure neither liberals or conservatives are completely right.

[–]HairlessButtcrack2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Marriage is a bad deal for men and it's a tool used by women to trap beta males.

Yeah now a days because cucks voted on "progressive" BS propaganda. You know why? Because reasonable and religious people didn't vote and stopped being a thing.

The post modernist Western World is morally completely corrupt.

TRP should be about marriage but sexual marketplace rules have changed and now marriage is a risky business.

I've also seen an increase of "redpillers" that are still stuck in the anger stage of rp grief and are bloating both subs. So I'd take everything you read here with some salt.

I do vote but I'm not American so probably what you want to know does not apply to me. I do think that Republican democracy is the most retarded thing humans have ever invented because for it to work it requires every voter (or at least reprisentative) to know every single issue affecting the nation. Like Socrates said in Republic of plato: "who do you prefer to command a boat? A well trained captain versed in navigation or the most popular person amongst the crowd? — The captain of course — So why is it when it comes to democracy the opposite happens?"

But whatever, China has already won. And it wasn't certainly with democracy.

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[–]HairlessButtcrack2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

I really don't want to debate religion here it's a big rabbit hole.

However I disagree with you completely. you assume values, and sex rules are exactly equal back then to what they are now. Did you even read the sidebar? They would have their lives destroyed (or even be killed) if they even came close to even thinking about cheating. Sex rules were completely different. Christianity and Islam are pretty based when it comes to marriage.

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[–]HairlessButtcrack1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's not related to Sexual marketplace, saying that middle east is a shit hole is pretty reductionist although true in some places

[–]notaselfdrivingcar-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy

if anything USA is a shithole, and the middle east is much better right now ,you fucking racist piece of shit

[–]CalfReddit1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have no idea what you're talking about

[–]notaselfdrivingcar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because you do

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

One of the big thing RP preaches to help guys is self interest. Before I do anything, I better ask the question "what does this do for me?". Most politics then don't matter and you shouldn't care or invest time in researching them. The probability your vote would ever be the difference in an election is miniscule, there are usually much better investments for your time and energy. The one exception possibly being a local election where your vote genuinely matters.

If there was an efficient way to facilitate real change as an individual, I'd be political, but for the self interested man political ideals are a waste of time. If it's convenient for me to vote, I try to think whose policies would put more money in my pocket and go with them.

I'll also add politics are ass to talk about. No one likes it, everyone just wants to babble their bullshit into the other person's ear. There's no learning, there's no beneficial mental exercise. For the people who really get into it, it's just emotional rambling.

I'm with you OP, if you're into politics you're failing the shit test of life.

[–]kkillah1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

politics affect every level of society, the basic human instinct. without it, society is nonexistent and anarchy. saying you dont care how the country is run is how people like hitler can become dictators. it’s important to pay attention and keep people in power in check bc the citizens and constituents don’t have the most power, but they do have a lot.

riots, protests, stand ins, boycotts, etc. regular people can do a lot to change our society

[–]TRP_Scepter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nobody cares about politics until it directly affects them.

Don't be that guy who gets shafted by a shitty policy and then wonders what happened to them.

[–]TelasRayo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You've a right to renounce your citizenship and go live in the far reaches of Antarctica or a deserted island where politics and society still don't exist, just anarchy and you. It's not called not giving a fuck because you clearly do, it's clearly called being antisocial.

[–]wyota2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have a hard time seeing how this sub isn't conservative-leaning, or at least exclusionary towards the Left when it crosses into the same circles as MR's and MGTOW. Also, OP is a fucking dumbass. Or maybe just a stupid teenager.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you don’t give a fuck, you are willfully ignorant

[–]2000wfridge6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

The failure of marriage is a consequence of liberalism and left wing influence. Marriage worked for centuries

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[–]2000wfridge11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Marriage works in societies that aren't degenerate cesspits. The west is becoming a degenerate cesspit and so in the last 60 years we have seen the breakdown of marriage.

And no, marriage worked up until the sexual revolution. This event unmasked hypergamy. Society has done a good job of enforcing monogamy throughout western history, it is only recently where this has come to be considered "sexist"

[–]anag194 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Who triggered you lol

[–]ENTPunisher1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The one thing that both extremes can agree with is that if you're satisfied with the status quo you're a tool.

[–]notpahimar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have you ever heard that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing?

[–]cphpc1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why spend time making a throwaway, making this thread and replying to comments. Just do want you want man. You’re kinda like asking for attention and being a big pussy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is more to politics than just Left and Right.

You need to do a lot of reading to really grasp the political/economic theory.

Even those extremely educated on the subject find themselves learning every day.

Most of the world is stuck in a 2 party system meaning no real political discourse can be had. We are slaves to the same rulers regardless of who we vote for.

Most countries that have 2 party systems don't actually live in a democracy. Only in name, You can vote for Democrats of Republicans but the only real difference is the leader. Sure you might get a "Tax incentive" from one party or "Subsidized Healthcare" from another. But those are goals of a false narrative when western culture is being snuffed out.

It is your job as a man with conviction to be informed about both historical and current events otherwise you may as well be a woman living a life of hedonism and generally wasting time

You can live whatever life you want devoid of any politics or the like but can you call yourself an informed individual if you don't at least take an interest?

TRP is political. You can remove the politics out of it and just take the advice but at that point you may as well just be blue pilled with some RP lessons mixed in.

How can you self improve when you are not actively informing yourself about the current events that affect you now or in the future. If your not Tax Law Savvy you stand to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars by the time you retire. If your not Politically informed you can't be Tax Law Savvy. (Just one example).

Don't think of learning about Politics/economics as having to choose a side, Think of it as a means of mastering the system you are required to participate in so you are not at a disadvantage to the people who are also trying to master the system.

[–]caf_app1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

To give a fuck about anything mainstream nowadays means you have nothing meaningful in your life.

[–]Tambamwham3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Donald Trump could explode in a ball of light on national television. Then aliens could come down and force us to make a cocker spaniel our president. Not only would I not care... I wouldn’t even notice for like 4 days. Being political is among the worst traits a person can have

[–]kkillah-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

being politically active and responsible means caring about how our society runs and our neighbors/businesses.

if anything regardless of left or right it’s not a bad thing to care abt the journey this country is taking. how can one not care at all?

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The system already takes care of its self. There’s never been a good president or a bad one and never will be. My only opinion about politics is that I don’t want any one side to have too much power for too long. Hold out your hands... I’ll shit in one hand and you “care about politics” in the other and you tell which one fills up first.

I pay taxes... I pay my rent to be in this country. Beyond that... I care about me and mine and everybody else can go fuck themselves. I don’t care how our society runs... it doesn’t affect me. I dont allow it to

[–]KilluminatiGotti21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re casting a very wide reductionist net. Where does it say anywhere that to be conservative is to promote marriage? That’s your archetype that you’re projecting onto them.

There is obviously a correlation between conservatives getting married in higher numbers, but that doesn’t mean that in order to be conservative you must support marriage. that would be tantamount to claiming that because most basketball players are extremely tall, being tall is a prerequisite to participate in basketball. Being pro-marriage is not a requirement of conservatism.

This post is an example of backwards reasoning fallacy, and is cringe.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (16 children) | Copy

Yeah and Reddit is a left-wing cesspool they've even changed their logo to a black one to mourn the death of that cocaine-filled criminal.

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[–]Warren_Bateman2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah police brutality is a serious issue, but that’s true no matter what color you are. The sad thing is they’re now overcharging the officer and the officers present at the scene because of the protesting & riots and there’s a real possibility that he doesn’t go to jail. If that happens, it’s going to get bad.

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[–]Warren_Bateman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Right. So the AG who dictates charges should not overreach.

For example: let’s say two guys get into a fight and one accidentally slugs the guy in the nose and kills him. If the prosecutor goes for Murder 1, the guy is going to get off. If he goes for murder 3, the guy may spend some time in jail.

It sets a constitution-breaking precedent if people start getting convicted by the court of public opinion. This is the part of politics which is good to understand.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah, he deserved a fair trial. However, I'm not going to feel sorry for a criminal. I'd feel sorry for his victims instead.

[–]whiffofass3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Media articles referred to him as a loved family father of 3 or something lol

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, he dindu nuffin.

[–]notpahimar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

His victim of maybe using a counterfeit $20?

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

found the racist

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Found the cuck

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf3RdaYlru0&feature=emb_title

COVID positive and drugs in system, died of MI, doesn't change the fact police officers were directly responsible for his death with their position restricting breathing. I don't know of any police officers in the nation that have come out in support of those officers.

Also he didn't resist arrest according to video tape footage and numerous eye witnesses.

I don't expect to change your mind tho, your comment history reads like an angry racist relaying right-wing talking points.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oh yeah I love those cuck buzz words. Keep'em coming. I'm having fun !

[–]TerminallyChill943 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dont bother arguing with ones like this my guy. He calls you out for buzzwords but cuck is the only word in his vocabulary

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's all he is, correct.

[–]Freedom__Fighter0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Weird thing to lie about OP, obviously you don't vote or follow any politics because clearly you're an underage child.

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[–]warthundersfw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t need t give a shot about politics but ffs vote for trump or you won’t be allowed to touch women anymore

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a double-edged sword -

- As others have said, caring about the world is important and "doing the right thing" politically is an "alpha" (though only incels use such terms) way to behave. I mean, love him or hate him, there's a reason Trump is president. No matter what your political view, there's a reason strong and successful people (often men, but women too) become world leaders.

- On the other hand, if we're just talking about being interesting and attractive to women (as this sub seems to be mainly concerned with) then unless you're studying PPE at Oxford and are talking to women on your course, then shut the fuck about your political views. For the average guy in his 20s or 30s (or older) who is successful with women, politics is NOT something that anyone finds cool or interesting in an average social setting. It will just turn into an argument.

I'm VERY political and engage in all sorts of things short of actually becoming a politician, but when I'm in a social setting if you'd never met me, you'd think I thought a lump of cheese was running the country.

[–]thanusall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You should care because whatever the conspiracy is, it’s real so pay attention so you can be prepared, other than that i don’t give a fuck either voteing is currently fake in America

[–]thanusall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OP post pics so we know you aren’t a neck beard or some skinny fag. You probably don’t even lift

[–]TheDeadlyZebra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agreed with your post up until you said "I don't vote."

Not-voting is Beta behavior, because you're admitting the futility of your own opinions.

You're relinquishing your power in decision-making as a man. That's not TRP.

[–]bethanyisawhore0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have never voted and never will. I'd literally rather cut my hands off and fuck myself with it.

[–]New_Age_Radical0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I care about it. I'm interested in it (political theory, not so much party politics) but I don't prioritise it over self improvement or the shit that I can actually influence. Oh, and, don't argue about it with people on the internet. Work out what you stand for and make your points if ever needed, you should have a strong and confident idea of how society should be structured and the type of place you want to live in but also appreciate things are complex. But whatever you do don't cry like a little bitch on Facebook because Orange Man Bad. It's pathetic.

[–]Rndm_0100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Law 38: Think as you like, but behave like others.

[–]otamatonedeaf0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Well you wrote a wall of text about your opinions, that means you give a fuck. What are you some kind of fake alpha or something

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[–]otamatonedeaf0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Don't be. I'm just making an objective observation.

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[–]otamatonedeaf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ok

[–]rodneyrangerfield0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I care about politics, but it has no place in this subreddit. I agree with you that the cuckservatives here are moronic. This is a subreddit about sexual strategy, not politics

[–]PerryWinkleTheThird0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I vote for moderate democrats because I believe in middle out economics. I also am fiscally conservative, and at this point I truly believe that moderate democrats are better at limiting spending than conservatives, as ironic as it sounds. They are also the least likely to fuck everything up by starting a war (civil or no civil) or implementing high priced social programs like Medicare for all or debt forgiveness.

I have a feeling most people on a subreddit like this would fall into the neoliberal or libertarian category, with a few traditional conservatives hanging around. I would consider myself anti-populism. Between Biden and Trump I’d vote Democrat. Between Bernie and like a Kasich or Romney id vote Republican. Between Bernie and Trump I’d abstain.

[–]workthrowaway123730 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Was a double major and one of my majors was political science. So I am naturally interested in the theory of political systems but think modern politics is stupid. I lean conservative and grew up in the one red county surrounded by blues and live in a deep blue in California so I keep my political views silent.

I still vote every election cycle but try not to follow the news as it is too depressing and soul sucking.

[–]DatRiggz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just devils advocate anyone talking politics, and it's a blast. I also just tell them im so right wing no one I agree with could possibly make it to president.

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[–]Zombiespire0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Look you can pretend to be OG all you want, but the fact is you're not. "Amoral sexual strategy" is the most painfully narrow minded idea of the red pill. You're narrowing down a concept that deals with interpretation and cognition of the world and reality to how to pick up chicks at clubs and get laid or your money back! What are you a fucking teenager? Grow up

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[–]Zombiespire1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Don't try making it dumber than it is. Just because this specific subreddit has dedicated the entirety of its essence to sexism to the extreme and pick up art does not mean it speaks for the idea of the red pill as a whole. This subreddit is not a founder or a broader reflection of the concept period. This subreddit has co-opted a well established term on the internet, and because you likely discovered it here, your brain tricks you into believing it must have been invented here.

This reddit is good for improving underperforming men in their life in matters of love and beyond. But the arrogance of it and its community is simplistic and tiresome.

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[–]Zombiespire1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Obviously the foundation of the term comes from the narrative of The Matrix, but it's use as a current philosophical and/or political term is generally separate. Didn't think I'd have to explain that as I figured we were on the same page, but I clearly respected your intelligence too much.

"in 2000s" is so intentionally vague it makes me laugh. And the "Manosphere"? There's almost nothing to suggest 4chan wasn't the core of that "Manosphere" to begin with. The most active usage I have seen of the term "Redpill" in the last 10 years has been in reference to general philosophy and politics, not just "how to bag 10/10 models every time!"

Let's not even pretend this reddit just "coincidentally" had the idea to use The Matrix's narrative themes as the metaphorical reference for how to improve "sexual strategy." When in reality it was most likely inspired by the 2016 documentary aptly named "The Red Pill" which was entirely about Men's Rights. Obviously that documentary was likely inspired by the greater concept of the Redpill, which has much to say concerning feminism, men's rights, the sexual atmosphere, and so on, but to reduce the entire concept to revolve around JUST that is absurdly reductive and arrogant.

[–]kellykebab1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

It originated from Menscius Moldbug, a blogger in the early 2010's who wrote about neoreactionary political philosophy. The term was then picked up by a wide range of conservative, traditionalist and "manosphere" thinkers and writers.

But your overall point stands. This sub co-opted the idea to promote hedonism. The fact that people like OP don't even want to consider society in any way is just testament to how apathetic and nihilistic a lot of young men are. The "Red Pill" does not and should not contribute to that mentality.

[–]Zombiespire-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Huh I didn't know that. I will still stand that 4chan had the greatest influence in popularizing the term throughout the internet, it's how I was exposed to it after all. ESPECIALLY during the previous election.

I agree with you completely, the childish degeneracy born out of repressed anger for women on this reddit is awful. You have this entire sidebar with great information on unplugging and self improvement, and they direct all that energy into becoming comically sexist narcissists. And now their life goal is to get revenge on women by using them all as sex objects and being emotionally unavailable for the rest of their lives. It is the most childish and extreme reaction when swallowing the red pill.

[–]kellykebab1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I understand picking up tips for sleeping around a bit in your early 20's. I'm ambivalent if that's actually the best life choice, but I do get it and did it a bit myself at that age.

What I don't get is this ironclad, dogmatic proscription that "Red Pilled" guys just should not ever get married and that it's literally going to be possible to be these swinging bachelors well into their 60's and that this will be a satisfying lifestyle until old age.

I think there is a very small percentage of men who can pull that lifestyle off, partly because they are borderline sociopathic and just don't have much empathy or interest in emotional bonding. Fine for them, but to promote this lifestyle as if it's actually going to work for most guys, particularly well into their latter years with no family, no spouse, no real strong personal connections, is really a terrible idea. And it would further degrade and harm our society as a whole.

[–]Zombiespire1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I cannot agree with you more. Make no mistake I still agree with much of the red pilled views of women not being what they used to be, they don't understand what they want, and can't truly be trusted as equals. That doesn't mean we shouldn't fall in love and appreciate amazing women when we find them. Instead people here go super jaded and want to burn all women.

We can still love women without letting them hurt or take advantage of us. It's about standing up for youself as a man and having boundaries, vs being a beta simp who lives to be used.

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Agreed

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[–]Zombiespire4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

You talk like a fucking cartoon character. "Red pill is ours now" lol no it is not you donut. Some obscure subreddit who got the term from a documentary, who got the term from meninists, who got the term from 4chan is incapable of overwriting over a decade of internet history. The idea is so pants on head retarded it's laughable.

Not saying these dictator mods support those values, but anyone truly redpilled does. Unless you have an abundance of chromosomes try reading a book sometime.

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Cuckservatives cuckliberals they are all the same. Use government for their own agenda.

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same. Unless it's a specific law or rule that's can actually affect me, the politics I don't really care about. People arguing on twitter don't affect my life whats so ever.

[–]kkillah-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

the laws and regulations that get put into place by the people we vote in and the ideologies we support impact you. everything in politics affects micro, meso, and macro levels of life everywhere

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Not necessarily. As long as I just pay my taxes and earn a decent living, I can avoid politics completely. I don’t have to know specific laws that put in place.

[–]kkillah-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

they affect how your taxes and money is spent tho??

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My goal and purpose in life is to become super rich that paying taxes won’t be a burden to me and affect my life. Even if I don’t become super rich, as long as I pay my taxes and it doesn’t affect my current living standard, I don’t care how they spend my money.

[–]Altin_Beg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fr, I hate it when right wingers try to equate trp with conservatism

[–]420BJsGamble0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You want a trophy for not caring?????? Fucking loser who gives a duck what you think, go enjoy poverty on your own.....

“Bro it’s so sick that you don’t care about anything” is that what you’re looking for???? Fuck this sub is getting softer than charmin

Enjoy being a tool of society you sheep cuck

[–]MrWSB0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I hate politics.

Never voted. Until Trump was in office. He earned my vote and I don’t regret it at all. Voting for him this election too.

Media is a fucking circus. As a man, an a wealthy one, i align with right philosophy. The left is a woman’s philosophy.

Law 38: behave like others, but think for yourself. Sheep hate wolves. They will kill you for thinking differently. That’s not allowed.

I went to college and there is so much fucking brainwashing you have no idea.

I make six figures now as a mid 20’s male. And focus on myself. I’ll be a millionaire and out of the slave class soon. Unless the left fucks us and make it impossible to leave the slave class.

Don’t waste energy on politics. Human nature, power corrupts and absolute power absolutely corrupts. No one is on your side. Politicians only care about short term financial gain. They don’t give a fuck about you. They will take all your rights away for a quick buck.

Arm yourself and focus on self improvement and finances.

[–]kkillah0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

why is the left the female pov?

[–]MrWSB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dependence on government handouts. Leans towards helping women over men. Daddy government. High agreeableness/low consciousness. Wage gap myth. Women have option to abort/men have no option for a “paper abortion” meaning a man can be raped by a woman and be stuck with child support payments with no hope of escape. Restricting guns and your right to defend yourself.

The left isn’t on your side if you’re a make. Almost all media (FB/twitter/insta/Reddit lean to the left and censor right content.

Did you know redpill is censored due to being perceived as a right wing philosophy.

Most politicians pretend to be left/right and are only interested in short term political gain. Most laws passed in last 100 years hurt the working (slave) class and benefit the royalty class.

I like right philosophy. Politicians I don’t care for.

Don’t depend on governments. Free yourself.

[–]jsphere256-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

THANK YOU

This is 100% a nation-wide shit test. Keep calm and hold frame, don't act a fool

[–]Domebeers-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mass democracy is the same thing as playing the lottery. A tax on stupid.

You go play the lottery for the ability to day dream you have some money for a minute. You go vote for the ability to think you have some power for the moment. It's an opiate. You'll notice if you pay attention that whether the blue team or red team in power, the state operates largely the same. Uniparty.

I'm as right wing as they come and I don't vote. Why would I? Nobody runs on ending universal suffrage.

[–]Alperarslan1999-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am an anarchist . I belive in natural law and that no himan has the right to rule over other people

[–]Stunning222-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like many things in this modern day, politics is not once what it used to be. Also USA is politically heavy.

IDGAF either. Just know once again you're gonna be in the minority.

Key is to hold frame, as long as you believe in your own thesis.

[–]PebbleChunk-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You sound very much like me bud. V refreshing to hear your words OP

[–]BPasFuck-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I vote for whichever party and candidate feminists most oppose.

[–]a_SaintOfSyn-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree politics fucking sucks ass but it is important. I think both libtards or cuckservatives are gonna do retarded shit always. Fuck them. The only thing that should matter is free speech, equal opportunity, and ensuring the human race doesn't go extinct,but this backwards selfish ass society doesn't get it. How long do you think we'll last huh? Fucking idiots everywhere bro.

[–]Thatjuansailor-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Libertarian right here, I care for my beliefs and values. Some fall on the left, some on the right. Most fall on the left though. Still RP for life though

[–]babybopp-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

A lot of men’s rights and cucksevatives are on here... they think TRP is theirs..

[–]tommybahama66666-5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I dont know anything about you. But if you were to marry a black or latina woman, you would have a minority child. And it would be your duty to tell your kid about injustice and racism so im not sure how you can just "not care"

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[–]tommybahama66666-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure. Im not either wing also. But theres a quote that says "if you dont get involved with politics, eventually politics will get involved with you." All im saying



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