What was the catalyst in your life that made you Red Pilled?

DaddyBadWolf · 2021-02-02T06:48:30+00:00

Got divorced. Started dating a bisexual. Got oneitis. Crazy sex. Love. Wanted to have babies. Got her pregnant. She aborted it cause she wasn't sure. Months later she wanted to be pregnant again. I resisted but oneitis. Got her pregnant again. We are both happy. I love kids so I was happy too, finally. Got vacetomy. She aborted the baby. All this time. She was consulting with her married guy friend. They used to talk about sexual fantasies with each other in between the abortion/you go girl/your body your choice talks.

Oh well. Found red pill. That was three years ago.

So kept dating. Killing it. Abundance in reality, but didn't like it mentally. Anyway. Found a kind woman. Or thought so. Beautiful. Beautiful house. Kinda rich. Was looking for beta provider. She thought I was rich. Told her I wasn't. She thought I was lying. I have a ton of potential. Have enough but could do more but got lazy after divorce and abortion etc. Excuses I know. I have learned and accepted my fault. I am ok now. Anyway. She wanted me to move in 2 months after dating. I laughed. Thought she was kidding. She was insulted. She told me I was not her first choice and if she wanted sex she can sponsor a gigolo or ask a young guy to come over. She has a black book. I stayed cause I wanted to bang. Thought I would just do it a couple of more times and then leave. But that was two and half years ago. Stayed with her for 2 years. Got called all sorts of names cause I would not move in or marry her. I was beta. I called her name's too. I didn't have any frame. I did my best but I lost it a couple of times when she told me nobody wants me. My ex aborted cause she didn't want to have baby with me. My ex-wife divorced because I am despicable. She use to bad mouth me to her friends and kids. Awkward as fuck. She use to ask nicely why I would not move in and I use to tell her because of things she said and, she use to deny it. Called me crazy. Delusional. Claimed she never said anything like that. She said she was sorry that I think she said those things to me. Gaslighting Master. Still stayed. Had sex. Oneitis. So many red flags. Could write a novel.

Then one day she denied sex to me. Told me if I don't move in no sex. I need to decide. I said.... no thanks. It's not worth it. I am not looking for money or a fancy place to live. I have mine. You have nothing to offer to me that I am looking for.... I walked away. She kept texting. One day..she said she is seeing a man. That was that.

After dating around....I realized my ex-wife is an angel. Have two kids with her. Was a virgin when I married her. No alimony. Equal child support. Almost 5 years divorced now after 15 years of marriage. She has not dated once. Her priorities are her kids. Doesn't want to bring a random guy in their life.

Tldr; good. Don't read. It's embarrassing.

StackRedemption · 2021-02-02T11:50:13+00:00

I was in a short-lived relationship and was surprised by how quickly everything ended and how quickly she forgot about me. I was still attached but didn’t understand why she dropped me so fast like the relationship meant nothing. That’s when I discovered the red pill through Sandman.

MrNeverDryDick · 2021-02-02T16:25:47+00:00

I was a fairly attractive dude so I would get women initially interested and able to fuck a few, but it was a very rare occurrence. So many times I'd have a promising prospect only for it to fizzle out.

I was fucking vastly less women than many of my bros were despite them being chubby, shorter, and not as attractive. And not just that, the women were HOOKED on them. Whereas they didn't seem to give a shit if things fell off with me. They had women coming back for more all the time. The few I did fuck I was unable to keep around.

Started asking questions because I knew with women, even though I was attractive, that wasn't enough. It had to be something else. How is it that these dudes who didn't look as good were so successful? I was searching for that "mojo" my friends had that I didn't seem to have. I wanted to be fucking as many as they were. Why did I have to relationship my way into pussy while they got it without any sort of investment?

Granted there was an anger phase here, jealous of my friends. Some entitlement, "I'm BETTER , why aren't they picking ME?" Delusion, "I'm so good looking women are intimidated by me." But after going through the emotions, I was left with the reality that regardless of how I felt, the outcome was not to my liking. Something had to change, and I had to get rid of the ego, take responsibility, and figure this shit out. Because shit was not working.

I realized what made a woman attractive vs what made a man attractive were completely different things. I realized the sexes were indeed different. I had always assumed we were all the same in what we found attractive: a good face, hair, stature, physique, etc. But that obviously was not the case.

I was looking into female sexual psychology to try to understand just WHAT exactly women found attractive and stumbled upon red pill.

Everything clicked as to why I wasn't having as much success. I was conditioned to believe being sweet, nice, and romantic was the key to get them hooked. I took responsibility for my lack of success. I was, without knowing, actively making them lose attraction to me with my behavior. I realized I was a phony.

The red pill had a way of describing women in the way men understand. I was able to put myself in their shoes and look back at my past self and cringe at how repulsed I must've made them. I genuinely felt bad for the women I disgusted. In the few successes I had, I was able to look back and pinpoint exactly why I was successful. Even though back then I had no clue.

Started applying things because I had nothing else to lose. Admittedly I was nervous I would go from a rare fuck to never fucking. But things started working out. Went from trying to friend my way into pussy with girls in my social circle to my very first one night stand with a girl I had known all of 5 minutes.

After that it became all about logistics. I saw the time wasted being Mr Nice Guy (years with no reward) vs being unapologetically masculine me (getting ass after meeting a girl in one night). No more emotion. I didn't get butthurt if things didn't work out, I moved on to the next. I didn't harbor resentment for women, I loved them for exactly what they are. I removed expectations. I just enjoyed the moment. I was present.

Many women became hooked. Those that didn't, I didn't care. The girls that friend zoned me before became psychotically jealous of my success with other women. They became infuriated with my indifference to them. And it wasn't because I was rubbing any of this in their faces. They just witnessed it. Anything and everything just further reinforced the red pill.

The thing is this has far reaching lessons that goes beyond pussy. I now apply many things I have learned to my personal life and happiness. I feel like I can never plug back in to this false narrative. And although it was nice to be ignorant and maintain the blue pill Disney fantasy, there is something so freeing about removing the curtains and then having the choice to do whatever it is YOU want to do that brings YOU joy in YOUR life. I avoid pitfalls disguised as "it's just a part of life" or "it's just what a real man should do." I define what a man should do. Your way doesn't work, mine does. And I'll be enjoying my life and freedom while others get forcefully disconnected from the system when it doesn't work out like they were promised. As I've seen countless times

boy_named_su · 2021-02-02T16:51:18+00:00

Dating attractive BPD chicks

ExcellentItem · 2021-02-02T16:36:54+00:00

It's when my first LTR I ever loved sent me the classic "We need to talk". We talked things over for 2 hours in a parking lot, and I managed to cry in front of her, then hugged her at the end "thanking her for the good times".

EW BLEH. 22 yo me, what the hell stupid ass beta cuck?

And after learning RP, everything made sense and I realized I should have left months earlier. I forgot who wrote this gem, something along the lines of "If a girl has to break up a relationship, it means the guy should've done it months ago". All the red flags were here :

the increasing need for space and not wanting to see each other as much
negative energy and coldness, less and less intimacy and proximity, mediocre missionary sex (in contrast to how submissive she was in the first months)
her going on girls trip the Summer before we broke up. She had even told me they had tanned topless on the beach. God I was such a clown for missing this one.
and the last one, she moved out of our town for college. We broke up in October, so pretty much self-explanatory.

cheesypongas · 2021-02-02T06:00:04+00:00

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Jakeybaby125 · 2021-02-02T13:46:15+00:00

Looking into the MRM after what happened with JD and AH. I discovered all of this shit when it came to divorce and how bad it was. That's when I found Better Bachelor and he put things into perspective that I could understand and the rest is history. I'm still red pilled but not really MGTOW although it does contain some very useful tips

New_Guard · 2021-02-02T08:54:29+00:00

I did well enough when I was younger, but never really snagged the extra hot women - it would be more the 6-7 range, and they were selecting me. I always wanted to develop the ability to get the 8s and 9s. So I spent some time working on myself, learning game, etc, and became aware of the RP world.

I crushed it for a number of years, laying a good number of sexy ladies and LTRing the occasional one who appeared to be extra high quality. Ultimately though, they all ended up having hidden serious mental health issues that I eventually had to reject them for. Through this I still had in mind the idea of enjoying myself for a while but trying to find a life partner.

My last serious LTR was someone who I thought was going to be my life partner. She fit everything on my checklist and then some. But ultimately, the relationship degraded into something that was a pretty negative influence on my life within a short time after moving in together. I still had more to learn about managing women by beating them at their stupid games, but I was by no means a novice by then. It wasn't even her fault per se - she didn't do anything unfair to me, she manipulated less than most women, she's a really good person, and she wanted the relationship to succeed too. But her innate unstable emotionality and neuroticism that eventually came out in spades once she felt comfortable around me were just such an enormous drag on my own life force that I couldn't handle it. Ultimately, that experience made me consider that if I had found myself with basically the girl of my dreams and in the end I didn't much like it, maybe girls aren't very valuable in the longer term across the board.

At this point I'm basically certain that avoiding marriage and cohabitation is my best approach to life happiness. After 2-3 months, my enjoyment of most women goes way downhill as they stop working to present their best sides, and by 6 months, when they think they have me snagged with sunk cost fallacy and the bad behavior begins, it goes downhill a lot more. I'm still theoretically open to the idea of find a vaguely permanent partner if by random luck I come across someone who is emotionally stable, rational, and attractive enough for me, but she'll have to actually ensure that my experience of her remains stably enjoyable as time passes. I don't have high hopes of that. It's ok though, because short to medium length romances are lots of fun.

KingTrey7 · 2021-02-02T05:53:52+00:00

For me, I’m in an all male group at my college where we talk about stuff that all men talk about, and they recommended some red pill youtubers. However, I didn’t really fully internalize it until I had a fwb turn into a relationship and it went south after some months. When she started tripping and left me, I reacted emotionally and made things a little worse. Before her I really just tried to follow the “rules” to pick up girls and practice game without fully understanding why they said to do those things or the other aspects of the RP.

daproest1 · 2021-02-02T18:21:11+00:00

Got lucky and found the type of girl I had always wanted. We were together almost 6 years. We bickered and argued a lot (never argue with women). And she wanted to get married and tried to bribe me with all kinds of shit. I wasn’t ready yet. I didn’t know there was a rush since neither of us wanted kids. I was there for her when no one else was, and supported and encouraged her thru school and everything else but it didn’t matter later (briffaults law). And after she left, I tried to reconcile and talk and work on shit. She didn’t care and got colder and colder and meaner and meaner (the lightswitch effect). Ended up blaming me for everything.

This is a girl that absolutely adored me. With everything she had. Then absolutely despised me as if I had slapped her grandmother or something. I never cheated (I should’ve). I never lied or disappeared. All I did was work on my business and workout.

themostgianthorse · 2021-02-02T17:07:26+00:00

Here’s how I learned about status.

First girlfriend when I was 15 and had bad oneitis. Bought me gifts and treated me really well. I was in Billy blue pill Paul pedelstalizer “love”.

Some older guys from school had taken an interest in befriending me and we would smoke weed together after school for a few weeks. One day they take me to this park where we get high.

The guys point out a used condom on the ground and start whispering to each other and begin laughing uncontrollably. I also start laughing since I am 15 and high. One of them says “hey, you know why we are laughing?!” Me - “Because we’re high?” Older dude - “No. because I talked your girlfriend into sneaking out last night and I fucked her. That’s the condom I used”.

I leave the park and walk home to call my girlfriend. I think to myself that those guys are full of shit. We talk for a minute and I ask her about what they had told me. She starts crying and apologizing profusely. I ask her how she could do this to me. Her answer was something along the lines of “because he had a cool car”.

That was my lesson in status and in retrospect changed my views on women in general.

Keith_Valentine · 2021-02-02T13:10:27+00:00

I could think of many but I will relate a short one. I was passed out on the floor at a friend's house. My buddies gf had another female friend over I didnt know. Woke up and they were playing cards or some shit , the rando said i was actually cute. Told her I had a girlfriend and wasnt interested , which I did at the time, super hot. The rando girl also had a bf but she got this look in her eye.

So were drinking and fucking around for awhile , i start playing music on the computer. As soon as I put on Ginuwine - Pony the chick does a cartwheel and i think she hugged me i dunno. P soon i was making out with her and she whipped my dick out and said it was bigger than she expected and started sucking it. So i ate her out on the couch and we were gona fuck but friend walked in on us. But heres the kicker - I asked her 'do you really love your boyfriend?' And she said yes, laying on me naked with her fat ass out. Always stuck in my head

Dopaminedetoxing · 2021-02-02T08:24:10+00:00

Always been good with girls but my blue pill ideals killed my last relationship. I always did the nice guy shit and the girl never reciprocated. I had a strong Oneitis and was so scsred to lose her. She always disrespected me, used sex as a weapon (BRUV and I was 17!!).

During the relationship I tried stuff out from the red pill and she was drippiiing. But I realised that the damage was already done and she woukd never respect me. Broke up and moved on.

Ass-a-holic · 2021-02-04T06:10:12+00:00

Actually turned me more MGTOW than anything but Worked 3 years in female dominated career (massage therapy).

Spending 40 hrs a week around a variety of women (old, young, hot, ugly, etc) for 3 years is more than any man should. Daily shit tests, emotional roller coasters, and some of most heinous backstabbing I’ve witnessed.

That experience made me realize I only liked women for sex, so I started using sugar babies and escorts and haven’t looked back

AnonChadThunder · 2021-02-02T20:27:01+00:00

Red Knighted. A good friend of mine trickled in RP truths for me as my relationship of one year was dying. I was billy beta.. controlling and mateguarding. She had options. If I had more self respect I would’ve ended things sooner when she disrespected me and almost branch swung.

My relationship failed textbook redpill. She stopped having sex with me and dried up. Started going out more and hanging out with me less. When I finally dumped her she forgot about me instantly.

After dumping her my friend told me I did the right thing and fully introduced me to TRP. I saw parallels on every level and was hooked. It’s been 3 years and man have things changed. I owe my friend big time.

Meloxian · 2021-02-02T20:06:48+00:00

A breakup

Snowboard18 · 2021-02-02T19:32:02+00:00

I have always been better looking than the average guy, so I figured I’d get plenty of girls, but boy was I wrong.

I would get dumped after about 2-3 weeks of talking to a girl like clockwork.

I would get so bitter at them and myself, but eventually I came to a point where that went away and I was just puzzled, “why wouldn’t girls stay with me for longer than 3 weeks, after all, I am an attractive guy” I asked myself.

So I started researching and I stumbled upon Corey Wayne first, which has a few rp principals in there but it didn’t fully help me. I eventually found AMS and that’s when the difference really started.

MrNeurotypical · 2021-02-02T18:39:16+00:00

I was wondering if there was a real red pill after noticing the similarities between the matrix and the real world. Lo and behold there is!

brave_snow02 · 2021-02-02T16:51:24+00:00

I didn't really have a catalyst. About a year ago I just happened to stumble upon the main sub, so I read the sidebar, and well my eyes were opened and the rest is history

Diabsacount · 2021-02-02T08:43:57+00:00

I'm not bad looking and I'm tall but everytime I tried to talk to a girl I turned into a mess. I could pull girls sometimes then I would have oneitis so quick and scare them away. I looked into game in my early 20's which helped a little bit I still could t make them stay. I could change my dialogue but not myself.

I guess I went back to re learn some game out of sheer frustration last year and found Rollo instead which made so much sense. I'm still learning and internalizing all this but at least I understand now where I go wrong.

LastStandBeforeOver · 2021-02-02T14:33:47+00:00

Not a RP Chad yet, just out of the Bluepill lie and the Blackpill darkness.

Was in environments with few girls for a long time. It was very hard to date and kept being a virgin at ever higher ages. I knew the RP but had trouble understanding it.

Got into online dating but managed it terribly and ended up in the Blackpill. Then, I decided to really retry online dating and got more matches and I had a sort of summerfling. I focused on her and did not pursue other girls. Terrible mistake - I ended up being ghosted and the most we had was foreplay.

Then, I ran more on a multi-dating fashion, read more RP very basic stuff but did not get sex due to a lot of mess with covid. Turned 25 and a virgin and I realized that not only I was having the wrong goal - get a girlfriend - but this goal was dangerous in the light of the summerfling - spend X more months with no or little sex and end up almost virgin at best.

So after this, I read more about spinning plates and concluded it would only be my only salvation. RP perfectly aligns with my vital interests. I am having more natural success - or in other words success after 1 date and without tryhard - even if the road to PIV is still long

Title	What was the catalyst in your life that made you Red Pilled?
Author	cheesypongas
Upvotes	6
Comments	39
Date	February 2, 2021 5:25 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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