After all my years of reading TRP, I have never been able to pass a shit test. I started taking a hormone (HCG) to double my testosterone levels. Now I pass shit tests without noticing it's a shit test. What do I make of this?

throwawayok272728492 · 2021-04-29T16:29:41+00:00

HCG should be used for making you fertile while on TRT, are you doing this UGL or through a doc? If it’s through a doc you should consider other options because that’s a shit protocol

empatheticapathetic · 2021-04-29T15:05:48+00:00

Would you really have considered that wearing the same mask is gay and that you should change it? For reals?

mydlo96 · 2021-04-29T15:16:50+00:00

Beautiful example in form of a introspection

i-am-the-prize · 2021-04-29T15:14:13+00:00

I don't think it's unrelated. I was very low T a few years ago (ie, below 150ng/dL) and getting my hormones squared away (T and HCG) combined with physical and mental changes, have moved the needle on mastering emotional reactivity and strength of focus and purpose (ie: Frame).

Frame is king, nothing is more important. And one way of establishing Frame is Outcome Independence, which you saw with:

" faking passing a shit test by swallowing your tongue and still feeling upset on the inside is not the same as just not taking what girls say seriously on a primal level."

this. congrats. keep reading, lifting, learning and doing.

LibertarianLibertine · 2021-04-29T15:28:02+00:00

Example: walk into a pizza shop and she realizes we are wearing matching masks. And she tries to get me to change my mask by saying "You know wearing matching masks is pretty gay, you should put on your other mask, blablabla..." I didn't even think about it I instantly said "Ha, I don't care, you can change yours if you really want."

How old are you? This is weird.

BigBoatsedans · 2021-04-29T16:48:36+00:00

Doesn’t taking extra T affect hormones even more after the fact?

offwhiteasian · 2021-04-29T16:25:14+00:00

not sure if troll post or not but this some next level autism

rocacu · 2021-04-29T15:12:05+00:00

My IQ dropped 20 points from reading the first two paragraphs.

I feel like I need a brain wash after this shit.

skyrunner22 · 2021-04-29T19:33:57+00:00

Forgot who it was, might have been shark from solvemygirlproblems in his book black flag and many others have said it but it was made clear when I read it first time Alpha=testosterone basically. Every descriptor for alpha is also one for test. Strong, Assertive, leader, aggression, dominance, competitiveness, boost self esteem, stoic, clarity of thoughts, decision making, high libido, muscle mass, etc.

EVERY. DAM. ONE can be found under both words, look em up. Then think of guys you think as alpha and then see how we use the word beta, even though they are behavioral type place holders, guys with low test are fatigued, obese, symptoms of depression, loss of muscle mass, reduced erectile function, voice changes, avoids confrontations, etc.

Thought this was known and in the sidebar, I am pretty sure the topic has been had before but yes all men should get their test levels checked and first try the natural ways to raise them (very reason lifting is pushed heavily on here) for some guys you will have to go another route and if done right thats cool too..

breakupstrategy · 2021-04-29T19:40:26+00:00

That “shit test” example is retarded.

If my LTR said that, I’d ask if she drank a thermometer and fried her brain.

slrml617 · 2021-04-29T15:20:06+00:00

Example: walk into a pizza shop and she realizes we are wearing matching masks. And she tries to get me to change my mask by saying "You know wearing matching masks is pretty gay, you should put on your other mask, blablabla..." I didn't even think about it I instantly said "Ha, I don't care, you can change yours if you really want."

WTF. You have bigger problems.

spedoid · 2021-04-29T20:21:43+00:00

your girl sounds retarded tho tbh

russian-jewboi · 2021-04-29T15:37:51+00:00

Why the fuck is a girl that has that level of disrespect for you your girlfriend/LTR? An LTR is your LTR because you vetted her to be a respectful, hard working, intelligent individual who doesn’t care if y’all are matching in tie dye from head to toe, let alone a mask. Take out the trash and do some more learning.

Also you sound young. I have no clue why you’re taking hCG, and you’re ruining your HPTA for a placebo. It’s been scientifically proven that any changes in testosterone levels in the normal range (300-1000 but more like 500-1000 since the current ranges are wack) do not cause any physiological or mental changes, and that everything else is placebo. The reason men on steroids feel like gods is because their testosterone levels are in the 2-3k range, and when they cruise, they go back to feeling regular.

Furthermore, HCG causes your HPTA to shutdown, so you’re essentially castrating yourself for a placebo. I would quit (and maybe PCT depending on the length of your dosing) and go to therapy, since that seems to be the real issue here. I hope this didn’t come off as rude, I just think you need a wake up call.

TRP_mask · 2021-04-29T15:24:42+00:00

It's never healthy if your frame depends on a pill you have to take every day. It's the same thing as people that can't be social without alcohol. Might be a tool that's nice to use, but the core of addiction is thinking you need the drug to be something. Learn how to keep frame from it, and stop taking the pills.

Also, seriously, joke around a little bit. She playfully teased you for that mask and what, you're afraid you're gay if you keep wearing the mask or something? She's just joking around.

420PussyEater · 2021-04-29T16:35:05+00:00

What was the reason you went on HCG? What other environmental factors are at work? Eg; diet, exercise, sleep, stress and sex? Sounds like a good time to start to align all those other parts of your life so when you get off HCG a healthy structure is in place for you to fall back upon.

HeungMinSwan · 2021-04-29T15:44:55+00:00

you said your test was mid range so im guessing you didnt have symptoms of low t in the first place. you shouldnt go on TRT if you dont need it. might aswell go on a steroid cycle if your planning to injecting without actually needing it

Andgelyo · 2021-04-29T15:25:20+00:00

You were a low T level bitch that’s what you make of it. Should’ve just naturally increased it by heavy lifting and improving your diet

aegeaorgnqergerh · 2021-04-29T15:58:24+00:00

Dude, just inject test if it's low (I don't know as I'm UK and we use nmol/L). HCG is used by guys on high testosterone doses but even then most don't bother, I never have.

I've never heard of it being used alone. I could be wrong, but it seems odd.

Fun party trick you can do on it though is pissing on a pregnancy test and it'll show you're pregnant.

teramelosiscool · 2021-04-29T16:56:18+00:00

how old are you? what's the difference between hcg and trt? yeah i have no doubt higher testosterone is correlated with red pill/alpha tendencies. pretty jealous you're getting to experience it tbh

TheeRickySpanish · 2021-04-29T17:11:14+00:00

I’m currently on HCG and Clomid. It definitely has a positive effect on your mood and gives you more clarity. You’re probably not as emotional as before.

Dealing with shit tests isn’t about not reacting, it’s about not reacting emotionally. Even if your girl is being flat out disrespectful, you react in a way that seems like you’re totally checked out. You should always have one foot out the door anyway.

mrrooftops · 2021-04-29T18:36:08+00:00

Do you know what happens when you take HCG for too long?

thegreyone3000 · 2021-04-29T18:42:45+00:00

How old are you, I assume over 40 if you're taking shit and considering doing TRT?

Also, what the fuck is HCG?

WhatRemainsAfter · 2021-04-29T19:35:02+00:00

In my humble opinion, people when they read RP gets lost in theory and forget having confidence/balls will help you pass all tests/game without noticing.

Theory helps in refining the act but often it confuses a lot.

Grow some confidence and you won't need meds.

mattalsosaid90 · 2021-04-29T20:09:28+00:00

taking a pill because you suck with women. that's a new one. a dumb hormone pill may i add.

Enjoyitbeforeitsover · 2021-04-29T20:20:30+00:00

u takin hormones because a female got to you?

OneTrueQ · 2021-04-29T20:55:20+00:00

Natty 1000+ here. High T is something you can’t fake. Shit becomes easy when you have high T and you shed your BP programming.

150420throwaway · 2021-04-29T21:05:47+00:00

No clue how it works but I’d guess more T = you just don’t care what others say because there are bigger threats than words.

Hijacking this post now - How do you tease a girl back when she is older than you in two scenarios, one where she tries to shit test you with that and one where she doesn’t or says something like “I feel old haha” kinda thing.

I am a rookie, just need some basic advice lol

SilverNova99 · 2021-04-29T23:30:25+00:00

Also you may just be maturing naturally. Based on that quote you gave, your GF seems to have very childlike thinking.

Jibouti · 2021-04-29T23:40:38+00:00

Can you give us a rundown of how you are taking your HCG? I’ve got some and looking to start a course alongside my TRT.

Nergaal · 2021-04-30T01:00:17+00:00

what is this HCG therapy about and how did you decide upon it?

PurpleLemon4de · 2021-04-30T02:12:00+00:00

Work out and swim for natural testosterone

ManTheFudgeUp4 · 2021-04-30T03:42:06+00:00

High T makes you more dominant.

Naturally high T men have never had to think about shit tests, because they pass them naturally.

Very few people will experience the difference between high T and low T in a short time span.

A have a pretty high T naturally (860ng/dl) that added with my height (6'5") means I pretty much don't care what people think.

Honestly though I think the best way to pass shit tests is to see more than 1 girl at once. You won't even care if you fail shit tests. If you honestly don't give a shit if a girl stays or leaves then you automatically pass every and any shit test.

Livecrazyjoe · 2021-04-30T03:50:47+00:00

Higher test will affect your mentally. The same goes with estrogen. Makes sense.

Mouse1701 · 2021-04-30T06:41:21+00:00

Try eating apricot seeds. Don't eat too much. Eat about 5 every 3 hours or so. The stuff helps me get hard ons.

ObjectiveDay8 · 2021-04-30T07:24:38+00:00

From anecdotal experience, I’ve found that as I’ve gotten older I generally care less and less about what anyone thinks about me.

At the same time I take pride in how I conduct myself around people. However, I’ve found that as I’ve gotten older, especially when I reached 40, that I no longer really place much emotional importance on people who behave rudely or negative towards me, I just flick them off of me like a dog flicking a flea off of his HGH enlarged nads.

This includes everyone who would normally have given me fits of panic and anxiety in my 20s at even the hint of social disapproval. Mostly coworkers, superiors, and especially women Im dating. That anxiety has completely evaporated. I have enough respect for my own self and my accomplishments that I don’t need anyone’s approval.

This leads me to a conclusion: testosterone is not the operative factor in being able to successfully deal with assholes and idiots, which if anyone is “shit testing you,” that’s what they are. I can almost guarantee that just due to Father Time alone that my testosterone level is not what it was 15 years ago.

And gentleman, let’s call a spade a spade. If someone is playfully joking that’s one thing, but being an asshole is being an asshole, no need for the TRP community to create a term like “shit testing.” It’s not a test, she’s just a bitch who doesn’t respect you.

If you are someone who has status and you conduct yourself like a boss, you won’t have to pass “shit tests” because you won’t get any. Again, it isn’t a test, see behavior for what it is and don’t waste your time trying to rationalize it.

The operative factor is confidence and the knowledge that you deserve respect and that if you don’t get it from one person you will disassociate yourself from them because you have plenty of other options.

RedEyeBlackEye1 · 2021-04-30T17:24:07+00:00

THE ONLY ANSWER YOU NEED, OP:

you NOW have high levels of a wonderful magical juice flowing through your ballsacks called testosterone. It makes you grunt, fart, punch shit, and not give a flying fuck about what a bitch thinks.you are also, more leveled out, calm under pressure, and ready to fuck a bitch brains out at a whim.

Thanks testosterone.

(Looks at camera, cheesy ass grin, tooth sparkles)

(Woman walks pass...stares at her ass, cut to commercial)

Youngyoda89 · 2021-04-30T18:23:39+00:00

High testosterone makes you more of a man so this is to be expected. But I don’t think hcg boosts test, although I am not certain, so you may be experiencing a placebo effect.

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