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teenage girls who murdered an uber eats driver in Washington reach a deal that will ensure they won't go to prison

matheus-wolters

April 8, 2021
819 upvotes
/r/MensRights

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9437615/Two-teenage-girls-accused-car-jacking-killing-Uber-Eats-driver-reach-plea-deal.html?ci=118478&si=24162156&ai=9437615

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Title teenage girls who murdered an uber eats driver in Washington reach a deal that will ensure they won't go to prison
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matheus-wolters

Upvotes 819
Comments 165
Date April 8, 2021 9:04 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mmnqin/teenage_girls_who_murdered_an_uber_eats_driver_in/
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Comments

[–]CantThinkOfAName7117 333 points334 points335 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Absolutely zero justice for that poor man and his family

[–]ZURSyt 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It tears me up to think about how his family is doing, this isn’t fair. For men, it is always guilty until proven innocent, for women it is always innocent until proven guilty. They don’t deserve that luxury

[–]FlacidPasta 309 points310 points311 points 5 years ago* (120 children) | Copy Link

What kind of bullshit legal precedent does this set. The message this is sending is "if you're young enough, you can get away with murder".

[+]DirtyPartyMan1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link

“Young and female enough.”

[+]anon_turtle17 points 5 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

Young and female and black enough

[+]mryugideck14 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

The uber eats driver was also a POC.

[–]Mad_Hatter_92 39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

America doesn’t care about POC unless the color comes from African roots... unless it’s election season.

[–]BritishCorner 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

There have been many cases of black ppl being incarcerated. It doesn't matter about race here at this point, black men make up the majority of prison population anyway

[–]Gimme_The_Loot 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Right that's the dumbest fuckin statement ever. In the US black youth incarceration is 433/100k compared to white is 83/100k. Since 2001 racial disparity in youth incarceration grew by 22%.

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/black-disparities-youth-incarceration/

[–]BritishCorner 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you for proving my point, yes black people still get put under detention and jail and all that

[–]Gimme_The_Loot 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry I was agreeing with you lol that was meant to support your argument. I meant the comment you were responding to was dumb af

[+]Mr-Lettington0 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but ever since the left started playing identity politics blacks and women in particular have been afforded special privileges with various cases or assaults or threats or in this case murders have been thrown out or petitioned out or much lighter sentences have been granted using this sort of narrative. But yeah generally the unseen cases go as they should, as soon as the media gets involved tho circumstances change

[+]fvrz_hh81 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You mean neolibs

[–]Mr-Lettington 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, neolibs and radicals for the most part, but recently the centre left has been moving further left, with news channels and media outlets like CNN MSNBC, Buzzfeed, Vice etc. (The list goes on) starting to push identity politics, often on people that don’t know they’re biased

[–]anon_turtle 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I completely agree but I think in today’s political climate there’s a trend occurring where being a person of color gets you out of certain situations

[+]NC_Yankee1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (91 children) | Copy Link

It's mostly cause they are POC and DC is controlled by POC.

[+]LateralThinker131 points 5 years ago [recovered] (85 children) | Copy Link

Social justice means lower standards for POC across the board.

And they wonder why some people think less of them. I've never hated or mistreated anybody just because of their race in my life, but... with all the shenanigans going on with wokeness and set asides and affirmative action and what not, they're making it hard for me to stay that way. Do they WANT everybody (including themselves!!) to think they are lesser, that they can't cut it, that they're inferior? Because this is how you get there.

[+]NC_Yankee2 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I think they are creating their own extremists where none would be because it's pretty clear many don't want equal treatment. They want equal results for unequal behavior and have a litany of excuses for the unequal behavior and why it shouldn't matter at all or be the causes of unequal results.

[+]tyranicaloverlord4 points 5 years ago [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link

People in glass houses don't throw stones.

I have been anti racist my entire life. I fucking hate racists. However the black community specifically has become incredibly racist towards white people. It's all over the news, it's in their marches, and it comes directly out of their mouths without shame.

This is where they have opened the door for people to speak out against their toxic culture. The culture of rap and being gangsters. The massive crime rates in their communities. The staggering murder rate, rape, and theft committed by less than 6% of the population.

If they are going to point fingers at whitey and say we are their bane of existence, I'm going to point right back at them and say look around your neighborhood first.

[+]BritishCorner-9 points 5 years ago [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link

Anti racist but generalise a whole community? Aight, cool then...👍

[+]tyranicaloverlord6 points 5 years ago [recovered] (15 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing to generalize the truth is right in front of you and on fact sheets. Turnabout is fair play, if you are going to generalize my community, I'm going to question the FACTS about yours.

I know it's hard for smooth brained leftists to get, the mockingbird has complete control.

[+]BritishCorner-8 points 5 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

Well someone cares about race... and this isn’t even about communities, you are going on this racist rant on black people talking about how the black community hates white people. Facts my ass, what a victim you are.

[+]tyranicaloverlord2 points 5 years ago [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link

You are amazingly stupid, or just here to troll. Nothing of what i said was racist. No one has claimed to be a victim either.

However, I can show you countless videos, news articles, government policies that target white people specifically for discrimination and condemnation based solely on their skin color. That is racist, and that's a fucking fact, you can either choose to ignore it and fuck straight off, or quit your bullshit attempt at trying to drive a narrative as to how black people are born infallible and in no way racist, or driving racist narratives and policies.

[+]BritishCorner-2 points 5 years ago [recovered] (12 children) | Copy Link

For a that is supposedly anti racist you seem not to mention a lot of things in the black community have been engineered, welfare single mothers etc

[+]tyranicaloverlord2 points 5 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

Quit your bullshit.

[+]BritishCorner -13 points-12 points-11 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Blaqpipo bad yes we get it.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see the racist leftist brigade has showed up to this thread. Your comment is stupid and dismissive. Either offer an intelligent point of discussion or get lost.

[+]BritishCorner -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not even leftist and even if I am so what? This thread is turning into one of those echo chambers that on a select group and never touch on the actual issue

[+]JzxGamer -67 points-66 points-65 points 5 years ago* (61 children) | Copy Link

Dude, just admit you’re racist.

Edit: please keep the downvotes coming. Shows I struck a nerve with a bunch of racists. I’ll wear that as a badge of honor.

[–]LateralThinker13 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (53 children) | Copy Link

No, I am trying very hard not to be. But it feels like the woke crowd want everybody to be - even NEED everybody to be.

At some point, after enough inundation from folks saying "ALL white men are racist", for example, those white men are going to go, "Screw it. Fine. Now I'm racist." and then ACT on that. And that's... not where we want to go.

[+]JzxGamer -65 points-64 points-63 points 5 years ago* (52 children) | Copy Link

Dude, just stop. This is so cringe. That’s the most laughably ridiculous excuse for racism I’ve ever heard, but ok. I don’t actually care that you’re looking for a justification to see others as “less than”, just don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining. It’s much more respectable to own your racism than it is to pretend you’re not racist.

By the way, if you “act on it” meaning you behave una racist manner because someone called you racist, guess what…you were racist before you were called “racist”. I can’t believe you actually think that logic is sound.

[–]ModsAreThoughtCops 49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link

You are the one not using logic

If you work at a gas station and your boss takes $3 from your paycheck every day because he thinks you are eating a candy bar every shift. Even when you explain that you are actually not eating a candy bar every shift, he still keeps deducting $3 per shift with no evidence that it will ever change.

Eventually, you realize that if you’re gonna have to pay for the candy bar anyways, you might as well actually start taking one every shift.

Same deal here. If white people (and especially white men) are accused of racism every day, 24/7, it’s gonna get to the point where a percentage of those people will say “if they wanna call me racist and not listen to my perspective, and nothing I say will ever change that, I might as well give them what they expect of me”

It’s basically the movie Double Jeopardy.

Dude fakes his death and blames it on his wife. She goes to prison for it.

She gets out, finds out he’s alive, and tracks him down and kills him for real. Only now, she can’t be charged for it because she’d already taken her punishment.

“If everyone is gonna think I killed my husband, forever and always, even though I know for a fact that I did not do it, I might as well just go ahead and do it, especially since I already faced the consequences for it”

You’ll probably just say “cringe bro ur racist bro that’s cringe bro” and not listen to anything anyone has said, but once you get past age 14 or so, you’ll have a less closed mind. And maybe some of these things will start to make sense to you.

But honestly, I don’t have much hope for you.

[+]JzxGamer -39 points-38 points-37 points 5 years ago* (43 children) | Copy Link

Do you seriously believe that to be a good argument? The very same “logic” can be used to justify the very thing you say you have a problem with.

I don’t believe all white people are racist, so again, there’s no reason for me to defend a belief I don’t hold, but I’ll play ball…

Let’s flip it, let’s say someone (or group of people) of any kind continue to experience racism from white people. At some point you buy the idea that “that’s just how they are”. Imagine that these people then say, “look, white people already think I’m less than, they already think I’m criminal, a social leech and living off government, so fuck it…I might as well give them what they expect of me.”

How does that actually improve the life of minorities? It doesn’t. Why? Because that’s a stupid outlook to have. Minorities (which I am one) aren’t helped by this mentality, so why would it help white people? It doesn’t. It’s all just a justification for racism.

It’s more “they already think it, so why hide it” than it is “they already think it, so might as well give them what they want.”

That is literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. You’re using shit arguments to justify racism even when those same arguments would STILL be shit arguments if used by minorities (or any group for that matter) against white people.

If that’s all it takes to make you act out like a racist…you were racist before.

And look, I’m not some insane race obsessed leftist loon. I very much dislike the lefts obsession with race and identity politics in general, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to call out obvious racism and the piss poor, illogical, garbage arguments made to justify it.

I am willing to listen to thoughtful, intelligent, reasonable arguments. “And they wonder why they are seen that way” is not that…that’s why I didn’t give the other comment anything beyond what I posted. Also, being “open minded” doesn’t mean I have to be ok with racists using garbage arguments to justify their racism. Being open minded is not a virtue in and of itself. What you’re open to matters, and I’m not open to accepting racism. I’m sorry that that hurts your feelings.

Edit: Keep the downvotes coming. Nothing funnier than to see a bunch of racists be triggering. 😂🤣

[–]FlacidPasta 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

Listen man, the only person whose feelings seem to be hurt, is you.

[–]JzxGamer -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

Oh, yeah? Because what? Because my opinion is different than yours? lol.

Your response is typical for people who have nothing intelligent to say or contribute.

[–]suzuki1369 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don’t believe all white people are racist

-You

It’s more “they already think it, so why hide it”

-Also You

You are literally calling every white person racist. So please, get your shit straight you dumbass.

[–]JzxGamer -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They already think it so might as we give them what they want is the argument that someone else was making, not me, you fucking idiot. lmao!! 🤦🏽‍♂️😂🤣

LOL…you’re not very smart, are you? I wasn’t saying that at all you fucking idiot lmao! God, you’re so triggered over something I didn’t say, it’s laughable.

Look, bro-dude, I get it…you fee personally attacked and your feelings are hurt. Those statements were in reference to what someone else said, it’s not what I said or think. It’s in response to someone who thinks that if you get called racist, you might as well actually be racist because…that’s apparently the logic racists use to justify being racist. That’s what I was responding to. Work on your reading comprehension and understanding context, dumb ass.

[–]BringTheFingerBack 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

'Hey I'm not one of those leftists! I have lots of cis-gender white male mates!' 😂.

[–]JzxGamer -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re clearly not very intelligent if that’s what you took away, but hey, I see that’s a trend in this sub.

[–]LateralThinker13 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Whatever. Not going to engage with your complete lack of reading comprehension.

[+]JzxGamer -18 points-17 points-16 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Your intellectual submission is accepted. The problem isn’t my reading comprehension, it’s your racism and the fact that your annoyed that I called it out. It’s very easy to avoid this, you know that right? Don’t want to be called racist? Don’t be racist, and definitely don’t sit here and try to justify the stereotyping/generalizing of people while complaining about white men supposedly being stereotyped/generalized as racist. I don’t think all white men are racist, so I have no obligation to defend that statement, and you will definitely not hold me accountable for a view I don’t hold. Are you a white man? Because I didn’t think you were racist until you opened your mouth and posted that garbage trying to justify racism.

[–]LateralThinker13 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

W.T.F.

a) Submit to you? F off.

b) No, not white. LOL. Knew you'd fall for that trap, though.

c) At no time did I say I acted or thought racist. The opposite, in fact. But you can't read.

d) Gave an example of current racism by woke culture - All white men (or all whites,period) are racist is not uncommon. You assumed I ascribed that to you, when I did not. It was an example.

At no point did I justify racism. I pointed out how the way culture is treating race lends itself to increasing, not decreasing, racism.

If you can't understand any of that... anyways, we're done.

[–]GVNV456 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I respect you not for what you are saying but for the fact that you took on this many redditors and still haven’t let up

[–]Farrenkorr 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont respect this person... they didnt come here to discuss and debate, they came to fight... I cannot and will not respect violence in any form...

[–]Mr-Lettington 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s a well documented psychological phenomenon that when people are told that they’re this or that they start believing what people tell them. That’s not disputable. He wasn’t using as an excuse to be racist either. It’s a part of humans social contract. The fact that you even saw that comment as racist really shows how in love you are with your ideologies, and how biased you are. Use your head dude

[–]Jepekula 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lmfao

[–]ILikeGamesYT 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"ure racist cuz u poinjted out that peoplee ar being bad, just admit It😭😭😢😢😢😭😭 cmon guys plese agree with this coment is ackhsually racist!!1!"

[–]masterdarthrevan 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Every fibre of my being is saying don't engage with this obvious troll. But I wanted to, if only to call you out as an obvious troll trying to bait ppl into saying something racist. You specifically are the worst. No one deserves special treatment. But alas the justice system seems to want to make a mockery of itself just to tempt ppl to riot over a cause. There should literally be a riot in the streets over this judgment but there won't be - why? Because everyone in said riot would be labelled racist. And you'd be there to cast the first stone, wouldn't you? Because you think you have no faults and every one else is just a stupid racist. I hope u cry about it. To everyone around, and then you'll have no friends cuz they'll see what annoying little shit you are. Go ahead cry about it to me. Only thing to greet u will be deaf ears

[–]JzxGamer -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Calling racists “racist” is not trolling regardless how much it hurts/annoys you or the feelings of said racist/s.

You have no clue what I think about the original article. Should there be riots? If there were, I would absolutely understand and support the outrage because this is clearly not justice. What does that have to do with the fact that someone decided this was the time to shit on people who they are clearly prejudice against? Not a damn thing, but he just couldn’t help himself, and that’s what gave it away. If you can’t hear the dog whistle or blow horn, that’s now my problem, kid.

[+]23408597640598605981 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you don't know the meaning of this word

[–]JzxGamer -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s because you don’t know what racism is.

[+]Th3ClitCommand3r -15 points-14 points-13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Username does not check out

[–]cuteman 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It hurts society the most.

Justice can only happen when adjudication is blind and unbiased and sometimes even then they get it wrong.

This is one of many erosions to the overall justice system by playing into biases by creating actual double standards.

[–]roboderp16 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, they killed another asian, this isn't a POC thing

[+]Zappaa1142 -28 points-27 points-26 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude the judge was white. That’s a really fucking dumb racist rant.

[–]NC_Yankee 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Plea deals are negotiated with the prosecution. It's dumb that you didn't know this.

With today's woke culture, the judge isn't gonna overrule that plea deal either. There might be looting and rioting, lol.

There's also a good chance the judge is a self-loathing white guilt ridden liberal or at best a RINO, anyway.

[–]BanzaKongo -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are planting seeds for a civil war. They want caos, divide to conquer 101.

[–]TheFakeVenum 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's basically saying 'kill now because you won't be able to get away with it later'

[–]rahmad 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure it sets any precedent at all. Minors not being charged as adults is a very common, existing precedent. Occasionally there are crimes where minors are charged as adults, but they aren't usually this young, and the crimes are usually more heinous. This is mentioned in the article as well (the bit about it being illegal to charge a 13 year old as an adult in D.C.).

I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with whether this is right, fair or just, simply stating that this is based on past precedent, but creating new precedent.

[–]Tkx421 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Time to start out sourcing.

[+]RonanFalk -38 points-37 points-36 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Weeeell, outside the US, that's kinda the norm. Disclaimer: did not read the article. Not sure if they're under the legal age.

[–]FlacidPasta 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, but what planet are you from where that's true? The girls in this article are aged 13 and 15. Compare that with:

In the UK, two 10-year-old boys Jon Venables and Robert Thompson were charged with the murder of 2-year-old James Bulger and were sentenced to a youth detention center until they turned 18 (1993).

In Canada, 12-year-old Jasmine Richardson was charged with the murder of her family and was sentenced to 10 years in prison (2007).

In Ireland, two unnamed 13-year-old boys were charged with the murder of Anastasia Kriegel, and the first boy was sentenced to LIFE in prison, and the second boy was sentenced to 15 years in prison (2018).

In fact, the US has the most cases of youth that get away with murder. Your comment is not only ignorant and factually wrong, you actually have it backwards.

Edit: Added "The girls in this article are aged 13 and 15. Compare that with:"

[–]connzerjeeass 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also in the uk 15-16 year old Aaron Campbell murdered 6 year old girl alesha macphail, Aaron Campbell was then sentenced to 24 years in prison without possibility of parol

[–]slidez_7000 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are some important differences between the crimes mentioned and the one in the article.

In all three examples, the murders were premeditated.

In the article, it was not.

At a push, this might be 2nd degree murder as it demonstrated reckless disregard of human life, but most probably was going to be 3rd degree manslaughter.

They should go down for it, 100%, but this case can't be compared to those three where ending a life was the clear intention of the perpetrators.

[–]FlacidPasta 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree the severity of the crime is not as heinous because there's no premeditation (1st degree). But the stretch is to call it 3rd degree manslaughter. This was not some innocent accident. They tried to carjack him, and seeing as he was hanging on to the car for dear life, the reckless disregard of human life is clear as day.

[+]New-Beautiful-88511 points 5 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

I hate to break it to you, but Jon Venables was released. That, and his crime was with intent to murder. He and Robert Thompson quite literally abducted and tortured a toddler.

Don’t call other people ignorant when you use examples that are not comparable in any way and also leave out major important details, such as the fact he was released.

[+]FlacidPasta1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Wow. 3 things:

1 - his crime was ACTUAL murder. 2 - he was released after he turned 18, which is what my comment says? 3 - are you actually that insecure about a stranger calling you out on your ignorance, that you go out of your way to register a new account, down vote a bunch of my comments on multiple accounts, and STILL manage to get it wrong? This is vote manipulation, and you're reported.

You're pathetic, on top of ignorant. Get a life, and if that's too difficult for you, try googling some shit before you write.

[+]New-Beautiful-88511 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude WHAT? 😂😂 multiple people disagree with you and you claim it’s “vote manipulation” ??

Are you that insecure and entitled? You actually think you are soooo right that it’s impossible multiple people disagree with you?

And no, your comment didint say he was released.

Also, asswipe, please. Other ppl probably downvoted your comments because you’re clowning.

[+]FlacidPasta1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, I just saw the fact that you made this account TODAY and maybe I conflated how fucking stupid you are with ronanfalk's comment.

Not even gonna argue with you. There's a saying "we don't avoid dogshit out of fear, we avoid dogshit out disgust."

Bye Felicia!

[–]New-Beautiful-8851 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you had a clue how Reddit works you’d know that an account made within a minute/hour/etc actually shows that. Don’t call other people stupid when you make baseless assumptions in a fit of rage lmfao.

My man, there’s nothing to even argue about. You didint have your facts straight and transparent, got called out by multiple people, and threw a childish tantrum.

Either way, I hope you’re okay. That kind of reaction suggests some mental instability lol. Apology accepted but Jesus Christ dude get a handle on yourself.

[–]New-Beautiful-8851 -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh and I chanced looking through your profile, saw that hinge thing. You look exactly like the douche canoe i imagined.

[+]connzerjeeass -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jon venables did a far worse crime, I dont disagree that this girl should be arrested and jailed, but its not really comparable to what venables did

Also, for anyone who doesn't know, venables was not sentenced to 8 years, he was sentenced to a queen's pardon, where only the Queen, prime minister or courts could deem him worthy of release, at the age of 18 he was given that release and was given a new identity as to not be killed by people who wanted him dead due to his crimes, he then either revealed his identity or had it leaked several times meaning he had to get a new one, he has also been charged with child pornography multiple times scince his release

[–]New-Beautiful-8851 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It just shows that both men and women are regularly allowed to do heinous shit in the US with little to no real or fitting consequence. Our justice system is fucked. I feel like it was a pretty well known fact that dude was released since it caused such uproar. Apparently not

[–]Dr__Unicorn 139 points140 points141 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I guess Pakistani lives don't matter then?

This is an affront to justice.

[–]GG1312 54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not inly Pakistani lives but, pretty much any white, or male,cultural or religious lives.

[–]Scorppix_ 100 points101 points102 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck? Normally I would say something, but I can't because I lost all my brain cells reading this. This is fucking unfair.. no, unfair is putting it lightly.

Edit: WHY THE FUCK DOES IT SAY 'ACCUSED'?? THEY OBVIOUSLY FUCKING KILLED HIM. WHAT THE FUCK??

[–]Paladin327 47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

WHY THE FUCK DOES IT SAY ‘ACCUSED’??

Since the legal system is innocent until proven guilty, media has to do this so they don’t get sued for libel

[–]OisinBrad06 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Innocent until proven guilty l, unless you aren't a man.

[–]Scorppix_ 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's just.. no..

[–]Pranav1702 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But they were proven guilty. What about the video?

[–]Table- 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Theres a recording of the whole incident....

[–]shinbet 96 points97 points98 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they say men are privileged, fuck me

[–]NTWM420 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is ridiculous. The older clearly needs to be charged as adult. Clearly had influence on the younger one. Anyone with a brain should know that.

[–]wakchoi_ 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

15yos can be charged as adults but then again that's 3 years away from offically adulthood. I'm not really surprised. It's rare to see a 14-16yo tried as an adult even tho they are technically able to be

[+]cryptonalyst1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

You won’t see a single mainstream subreddit or social media up in arms about this.

[–]almeiras 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not just female privilege at play here.

[+]Appropriate_Deer5129 -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is not a race issue.

[–]wakchoi_ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is called youth justice, kids under 14 cannot be treated as liable for a crime they did. 14-18yos can be tried as adults up to the judges discretion

[–]DraganTehPro 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the genders were reversed then they would probably both be tried as adults and got at least 10 years.

[–]SerratedHumor 57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excuse the fuck out of me? Man the west is fucked

[–]Muh-So-Gin-Knee 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are any of you surprised at this? This is practically SOP. Pussy-pass in action. I'm surprised they punished her at all.

[–]Senpai59210 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Shit, I feel so bad for the family. I hope they're doing ok, or at least ok as they can be...

[–]1320Hunan 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m sure they are thankful for everyone that donated to their go fund me but after this, idek

[–]GalileosTele 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t you know that the bad behavior of women is caused by patriarchal oppression the gives them no other choice? These girls are actually victims of The Patriarchy and just need to be cared for, which is why they are treated with such leniency.

The 1st Commandment of Feminism: The Patriarchy is the sole cause of all phenomena.

[–]SuperStateSamBamCam 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I've come across a couple videos of young women treating male Uber drivers like absolute shit. In each video, at least one of the girls said, "But we're women!" as if to say, "You're not supposed to defend yourself against us!" (In one case she took the driver's cell phone from him and he reached out to take it back. In the other, I don't remember what he did but he didn't hit her or anything.) Now, a couple of teenaged girls attempt to carjack an immigrant Uber driver's car and in the process, accidentally kill him.

I know I can't assume they chose him because he was an Uber driver, but it's tempting to think some young women have a hypergamous hatred for male Uber drivers.

This is an especially galling story because he was just an immigrant family man trying to provide for his family by toiling away in the streets for a notoriously cold mega-corporation. He most likely came to the U.S. because he believed his children would have a better future here than in Pakistan. He felt his life's purpose was to sacrifice himself for his family. As many men do, thanklessly, every day. If there was ever a day this man hoped for more, that day was long gone by the time he took his family to the States. As he, a stranger in a strange land, stepped foot on American soil, he might have imagined what life could some day be like for his children in this big land that promised everyone a fighting chance.

This is exactly the kind of person who deserves a green card or citizenship, if he wants either. This is the person who deserves our full protection and our kindest treatment. Who else but this man is the hero of this republic? If we would live up to our promises for anyone, I think we should have done it for him. But, of course, we fucking didn't, because we're not who we say we are as a people.

Whatever factors led to the court decision (age of defendants, their apparent lack of murderous intent, their own life circumstances, calculations on the part of the defense and the prosecution as to the likelihood of success should the case go to trial, etc.), its ultimate effect is to reaffirm that men's lives don't matter. If you're poor and you decide you need to victimize a mere man to look after yourself, that's not a big deal. If you're a teenaged girl trying to establish yourself in a gang, it's okay to kill an innocent, honest, hard-working man; that's what he's there for. If you just want to feel cool and do something dangerous -- or you're just a worthless, arrogant cunt who has no regard for human life -- and you recklessly bludgeon a father with his own car, don't worry about it, the court doesn't care, nobody cares.

But if you are that innocent, hard-working father whose only happiness in life is providing for your family, be you warned here and now, your rights are a fucking joke. I'm disgusted by this country.

[–]LoFiGai 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Wife, children, and 4 grand children no longer have this man in their life because of these fools. 13/15 or not, they should be charged with murder in the first degree. He shouldn't have clung on to the car, however. When a robber tries to take your shit, just let him take your shit or else you risk escalating the issue.

[–]WingsofSky 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Can't they still be charged with the lesser crimes?

They got away with murder.

Vehicle theft might be a different story.

[–]LoFiGai 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right but they should be charged with murder, for it was their decision to drive while he was clinging to his car

[–]WingsofSky 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All those girls had to do was cry a bit.

Then everyone let them go.

[–]Farrenkorr 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

there definitely are other crimes they are guilty of here... let's start a list:

Grand Theft Auto,

Driving without a license,

Driving without insurance,

Dangerous driving,

Vehicular manslaughter,

Abandoning the scene of an accident,

Resisting Arrest,

Perverting the course of justice,

Can anyone else add any more to this list? on top of the crimes these people are guilty of, anyone who helped them get away should also be arrested and charged with Aiding a Fugitive and Perverting the Course of Justice...

every single one of these should have it's own sentence and they should be a cumulative... 5 years? bullshit yo...

[–]WingsofSky 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sad thing is. They will probably be doing evil crap again.

More lives suffering and ending.

Because we can't or won't deal with women that commit crimes.

[–]SuperStateSamBamCam 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

When a robber tries to take your shit, just let him take your shit or else you risk escalating the issue.

I thought of this as well, but you know, it might speak to how little he had that he felt he needed to fight to keep it from being stolen. Or he was just stubborn, lol.

[–]EatTurnips 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Someone bumps into you at a buffet and you start to drop your plate of food. You try to catch it as it falls causing the contents to flip up and cover your clothes in food. Why didn't you just let the plate fall? You were going to lose the food anyway but in one scenario you would have clean clothes. Why didn't you make this right decision the first time?

That's what you're asking a dead man, grats.

[–]SuperStateSamBamCam 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you replied to the wrong person.

[–]kaijyuu2016 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That man was a husband and a father, why is there no justice?

[–]randomasshole874 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolute horrendous tragedy and complete miscarriage of "justice"

Why do we even have a system...at this rate, complete anarchy may actually be better

[–]Poop4SaleCheap 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

RIP, he just wanted to make a living. These girls should be paying restitution to his family.

[–]-Merasmus- 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Article constantly states "the teens" and "the girls" to make the reader feel empathetic.

[–]wakchoi_ 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They are legally teens, what should they call them?

[–]Farrenkorr 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

perpetrators?

[–]eerbin13 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They deserve the death penalty.

[–]Lupin_The_Fourth 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

WHAT THE FUCK! FUCK YOU! HOW! Those women should rot in jail, evil.

Edit: there is no justice for the man and his family. My heart is broken. Fuck.

[–]wakchoi_ -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is justice, as much as legally possible, they are most likely getting sent to juvenile detention (juvie) and will have to be on probation for a while, they simply won't be treated as adults and not held in jail past 21.

You can argue if it's proper justice, but you can't deny there isn't some justice.

[–]Stwkevgamer 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wha- wha- why? Murder is murder go to fucking prison

[–]wakchoi_ 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They are legally youth, 13 and 15 and most likely getting sent to juvenile detention (juvie) and will have to be on probation for a while, they simply won't be treated as adults and not held in jail past 21.

You can argue if it's proper justice, but you can't deny there isn't some justice.

[–]Stwkevgamer 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Forgot they were teenagers yeah there is some justice served

[–]Eigengrau24 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A man is guilty until proven innocent. A woman is innocent until proven guilty.

[–]almeiras 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Despite

[–]Senpai59210 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh no, we aren't doing this again!

[–]PerceJackson 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sorry to make fun at this grave news, but I read that "teenage girls who murdered an uber, eats driver", and I was like wtf.

[–]Realistic_Ad_5428 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same😂😂😂

[+]fgjvk798hshdg7083 points 5 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

It’s because they are female and black, if they were white dudes they would probably get death sentences and cities would have been burnt down by now

[+]BritishCorner -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

And black

So why are there so many black men in jail?

[–]Vinterblad 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So why are there so many black men in jail?

FIFY so that the answer is in italics.

[–]BritishCorner -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I get that but I'm talking about race here.

[–]xsplizzle 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You think if the it was two white boys killing a black man that the outcome of this case would be the same? you think if it was there wouldnt be riots? what are you trying to say?

[–]BritishCorner -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasnt even talking about this murder btw.

[–]BritishCorner -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There wouldn't though.

[–]CheeseStar914 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

crime

[–]BritishCorner -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why dude I never knew that.

[–]wildKarenusedscREEch 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's just fucked. But not even in the top 100 of the most fucked things I've seen on this sub. (Sad to say).

[–]SuspiciousMeat6696 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Asian Hate Crime

[–]Tychodragon 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

horrible

[–]I_Require_STERLING 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they both should be locked up for life. fucking disgusting

[–]CuriousAboutPleasure 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you guys should post and share this on instagram and call them out.

after all we know social media outcry works

[–]unknown_docter 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But remember everyone men can’t be oppressed

They can just be murdered,raped, and falsely accused without any consequences

[–]zeroicemaze 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thats the sad part of it all ive had two false accusations and there was no justice whats so ever. its a hard pill to swallow

[–]ThatDamnCanadianGuy 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I hope the Pakistani community riots as hard over this injustice as the black community did over George Floyd.

[–]pssiraj 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For better or for worse, we don't really do that.

[–]Gwfun22 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I cannot believe this

[–]maritalades 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Remember this the next time the MSM say straight white males have privilege.

[–]Farrenkorr 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

sorry, MSM?

[–]maritalades 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Main stream media.

[–]Farrenkorr 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thank you... allow me to facepalm myself with this shovel for not figuring that one out ..

[–]EgalitarianFacts 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Female murderers don't real, INCEL!!

/s

[–]coloradocaniac 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gonna be rather surprised if street justice doesn't resolve this itself.

[–]WingsofSky 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn I was right!

I told people they wouldn't get any time. Maybe probation.

lol

[–]semenjones 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Damn not Canada too!

[–]1320Hunan 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This happened in the u.s

[–]DipDyan 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is it worse than Canada?

[–]1320Hunan 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Eh, I have no clue but in Canada, it happens here as well. A woman ran over a father of 2 and then she drove off and when people asked what happened to her car she said something like "Oh I hit a sign". She was taken to court but somehow the judge says she's not going to jail because of her asthma... She got out free.

[–]Farrenkorr 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/10343719-woman-who-killed-markham-father-of-3-with-vehicle-escapes-jail-time/

[–]SnooMarzipans1120 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

I understand that they are children but we need to do something to let young people know they are not above the law. Rip. Edit: they’re 13 and 15 and they’re getting out in their 20s. Fair punishment

[–]TedMosby05 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not fair punishment, they killed a man, they should be sentenced for life

[–]SnooMarzipans1120 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They’re young. Imagine you accidentally killed someone when you were 13. So do you really think you should be in prison for the rest of your life? They tried to steal the car not intentionally kill a man.

[–]TedMosby05 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I'm 15 now and I believe that if I were to kill someone, even if just by trying to steal their car, I deserve life in prison.

Now if they were driving, and got in a wreck, and he died, then that's a different story.

But they stole the man's car, and killed him in the process, so yes, I do believe that since they caused the death of a man, then they deserve life in prison.

[–]Petrolinmyviens 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Key word. "Accidentally".

Take a read at how this guy died. Then come back and say if "accidental" still applies.

Also I was 13 and 15 once too. My escapades didn't result in GTA or murder.

[–]Table- 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

.....i didnt fucking murder people and steal cars at 13. I was doing that on GTA like every other normal kid. Stop with the non-excuses

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah right seems fair

[–]BanzaKongo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don’t believe in this. It’s too bad to be true.

[–]wakchoi_ 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No it's perfectly normal, the 13yo cannot be tried as an adult or be held fully liable for they actions. The 15yo can be but treating them separately is not common practice especially since their age is so similar.

Furthermore the article isn't saying they aren't gonna be punished, just not punished in adult jail and not past 21

[–]BanzaKongo 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok the part they are underage I understand but no punishment at all? I don’t know man. In Brasil this is common burning the US ...

[–]wakchoi_ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Again they aren't getting no punishment, just not adult punishment meaning only juvie and that they won't be held in juvie past 21.

[+]MagnificentClock1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

More White Privilege

[+]GG13121 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

They are black...

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