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Women attacks biker, 'he reminded her of her abusive ex-partner'.

innocently_standing

November 19, 2015
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/road-rage-mum-swinton-biker-10466345
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Title Women attacks biker, 'he reminded her of her abusive ex-partner'.
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innocently_standing

Upvotes 582
Comments 88
Date November 19, 2015 10:31 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/3thr8q/women_attacks_biker_he_reminded_her_of_her/
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[–]rdesktop7 255 points256 points257 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

"the mum-of-three was handed a 12 week prison sentence, suspended for a year, and ordered to pay £1,290 in fines and compensation to the victim."

Sounds like a stupidly light sentence for attempted murder.

[–]Cosmic_Bard 75 points76 points77 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She didn't even lose her license

[–]Alex_Rose 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When it says she got suspended for a year, I'm pretty sure that means she's DVLA disqualified for a year, therefore her license is taken away for 12 months and she'll have to reapply, that's how it normally works. She also got 10 points, so she'll get another 2 years if she gets 2 more points.

[–]Fiale 37 points38 points39 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The suspended for a year is in relation to her prison sentence - as long as she commits no criminal act's within the next 12 months her prison sentence will be written off without her having to do it. If she does anything illegal the prison sentence will come into effect.

She basically got of free.

[–]cvance10 121 points122 points123 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yep, this is a total p-pass.

[–]AtomicBLB 27 points28 points29 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She got 10 points on her license. That will clearly show the error of her ways.

[–]Leetenghui 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

10 points is nothing. People have had 60-100 points.

All that happens is when they go to a hearing they say if you ban me I can't work and my children will suffer.

Therefore they don't get banned.

[–]anon445 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

10 points is a shitton. You get that many (>60) points over the course of a lifetime, and you still have to jump through hoops to keep driving. In many states, her license would be suspended after that, and in others, all it would take is a speeding ticket or two.

[–]Leetenghui 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

UK you only get your licence revoked at 12 points. Also you can make a plea once you hit 12 points that it will cause unnecessary hardship for the dependants of the person. Therefore they will be allowed to drive without a ban.

[–]anon445 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Which means that 10 points is still a shitton. She should have harsher penalties for the assault, but her distracted driving and minor accident doesn't require her license to be taken away.

[–]Leetenghui 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except it wasn't distracted driving, she tried to intimidate the biker by driving so close that she did not have time to stop. She broke the 2 second gap rule. A gap of 2 seconds for every 10mph above 20mph.

This is dangerous driving.

[–]anon445 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, but tailgating isn't that serious of an offense (not in the states anyways), even if you bump the other driver.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points52 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A man would definitely have gone to prison for this offence, you only have to look at the legal archives to see the precedence. She didn't even get any community service punishment, completely ludicrous.

[–]Alex_Rose 33 points34 points35 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

He stopped for a pelican crossing. She was angrily tailgating him and couldn't stop in time when he suddenly stopped, but that isn't attempted murder.

However assaulting someone you crashed into, destroying their property, hitting and running and (as the guy pointed out in the first place), texting while driving with kids in the car are all deplorable.

[–]DeusMexMachina 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Fucking pelicans.

[–]Alex_Rose 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's because they're PEdestrian LIght Controlled.

Likewise we have Toucan crossings (because bicycles and pedestrians are allowed on it. As in, "two can" cross), puffin crossings (Pedestrian User Friendly Intelligent crossings), Pegasus (for horses) and Zebra (because the road is black and white stripey).

[–]holycrapolaness 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta say, I love the cleverly creative way you guys name your crossings.

[–]rdesktop7 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay.. Perhaps it wasn't attempted murder. It doesn't sound like she was trying to kill the guy.

I still think this is a case of this would have not have had the same result if she had had a penis.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A longer sentence might have been too triggering for this special snowflake.

[–]JanLul 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Apparently the crash is considered an accident due to her driving aggressively. Had the court considered her INTEND to hit the man with her car PROVEN, her sentence would have been much harsher.

The sentence is fair.

[–]rdesktop7 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As I already said in another reply, yes, this was not attempted murder, though I do not imagine that the sentence would have been this light if the genders were reversed.

[–]JanLul 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Really depends on the country and court.

[–]Wargame4life 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

its not gender its honestly UK law/justice. I know someone who battered and strangled his girlfriend (not to death) and he was arrested (single incident) and the court sentenced him to a "domestic violence workshop" and pay a fine and victim surcharge (he pled guilty though).

So her sentence is actually harsher.

[–]rdesktop7 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

huh.

Okay.

That might be.

In the US, doing anything to a woman that she doesn't like typically results in jail time, particularly if you are the wrong color.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted, this might not be a light sentence in the UK. But I suspect your friends experience is the exception.

[–]txroller 106 points107 points108 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

this isn't pussypass denied/ to me the bitch got off lightly for assault with a vehicle

[–]OffDaysOftBlur 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the exact opposite of pussypassdenied. Why so many upvotes?

[–]60for30 74 points75 points76 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

"But defending Keyworth, Robert Travis said that his client had been in an abusive relationship and so had reacted in the way she did.

Alleging that the biker must have said something to Keyworth to cause her to react, he said: “He must have said something significant for her to respond in this way.

“When she was interviewed by the police she apologised and accepts what she did. He was a large framed individual who was riding a bike and took off his helmet and how she has suffered for many years may have caused her to feel like that again.” "

I can't believe they accepted that as a defence. They still found a way to blame him for her actions.

[–]Cerehectus44 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You can't believe they accepted this as a defense? It doesn't surprise me at all.

What nobody thinks to ask is maybe this kind of behavior is why she was in an abusive relationship. If it were me she pushed, took off my helmet, slapped me and threw my $300 helmet after running into the back of my motorcycle, she would have found herself in an abusive situation.

I don't know whether or not I admire or despise this guy's self control. As far as I'm concerned, this is a pussy pass and he allowed it. Even when women get brought up for the shit they do, the consequences are so minute it's almost incentive to act however they want.

The standard reply is flip the sexes in this situation and see what happens. This guy is doing all of that jailtime, plus 10 times more, and paying for property and psychological damage, ptsd, taking anger management courses, having his income garnished and he's on the hook/responsible for everything about the situation.

Plus he's probably having his child taken away from him for being a loose cannon/unfit parent.

This woman? Not responsible. She's obviously a chemical-dependent slob roving around like the world is hers alone. (look at her). This is another big win for the pussy pass.

[–]imissFPH 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Statistics show that 70% of domestic violence is initiated by women.

28% of relationships that are violent, only the woman is violent.
14% of relationships that are violent, only the man is violent.
the remaining 58%, both partners are violent.

[–]holywowwhataguy 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah exactly. "was in an abusive relationship"... as if that makes assault/almost killing someone OK? holy shit.

[–]Fart_Connoisseur 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since they never specified i'll just assume she was the abusive one...

[–]conradfart 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They didn't, she was found guilty. The article mentions the defence statement, but I'd very much doubt the judge paid that much attention to her excuse when it came to sentencing. Sentencing in British Law is subject to fairly rigid guidelines.

[–]22squash -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know she was in an abusive relationship because she was the abuser.

[–]Alex_Rose 23 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The motorcyclist replied in the comments too if anyone wants to see that:

Hi can I just say I was the motorcyclist in this accident that happened. Just would like to clear few things up I noticed this car driving and slightly moving across the road so I held back upon me getting to the red lights I noticed the lady textin and just shook my head for her to drop her window and say a few words to me which I replied back do u think it's right to text and drive with young kids in the car. She at this point was turning left the lights changed I drove off only then to noticed she was very very close behind me upon looking up the pelican lights were on red I slowed down and bang she hit me. I managed to keep a hold of the motor bike or I feel the lady crossing may of been hurt. I was shocked but then more shocked to be assulted and then for this lady to just drive off thankfully I had several witnesses come forward and help me and I have to say a massive thank you to Swinton GMP PC Chisnall has been great in helping track this lady down and then take her to court. My children now worrying ache time i go out on my motorbike but I will not let this accident spoil my times out the bike.
thank you all for kind words and I'm no big lad either lol

[–]Murbah 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is there any way to know if he was who he said he is? If so god it makes me so angry that she got away with it.

[–]Alex_Rose 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No way to verify, but I mean, mentioning a specific police constable from Swinton Greater Manchester Police is pretty fucking specific and I can't see why anyone would go and make this up.

I'm a Manc as well and he writes like a Mancunian to my eye.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can someone translate this?

[–]Alex_Rose 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hi, can I just say that I was the motorcyclist in the accident in question. I'd just like to clear a few things up. I noticed a car veering a little as it was driving, so I decelerated. Upon reaching the lights I noticed the woman driving was texting on her phone.

Merely the act of shaking my head at her caused her to lower her window and say something scathing, to which I replied, "Do you think it's right to text and drive when you have young children in the car?"

At this point she was turning left and the traffic lights changed, so I drove away, before noticing she was close to my tail. Upon looking ahead, I saw that the Pedestrian Light Controlled crossing lights were on red [so therefore someone had pressed the button to cross], so I slowed down, and felt a shock as she hit me.

I managed to maintain control of my motorcycle, otherwise the drive may have been hurt. I was startled by the collision, but even moreso by her further assault followed by her fleeing the scene.

Thankfully several witnesses came forward and testified onmy behalf, and I sincerely thank Police Constable Chisnall of the Swinton Greater Manchester Police, who was extremely useful in helping to track the offender down and press charges.

My children are now worrying every time I drive on my motorcycle, but I refuse to let this accident spoil my enjoyment of driving it.

Thanks for all your kind words. Also, I'm not "big" at all, I'm of small stature. [Reference to the woman implying he was a hulking threat].

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex[M] 22 points23 points24 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is /r/pussypass if ever I seen it. She 'claims' she was abused, that cyclist was a large framed man so thus she should not eld responsible for her actions.

So although not PPD I am going to leave it hear for people can see what equality looks like.

Oh wait....

[–]shot-in-the-mouth 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, her pussypass got a seal of approval stamped in gold on page 5.

[–]aChileanDude 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Take this kind mod

PS. I'm constantly reporting not PPD post.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So going to use that

[–]mrmatthunt 19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is fucking infuriating

[–]ArtsNCrass 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Something tells me she did her share of partner abusing.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, the article says she was in an abusive relationship but not who was abusing who.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well she has a vagina so it's cool.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Robert Travis said that his client had been in an abusive relationship and so had reacted in the way she did.

Fuck off.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 10 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Taco_Strong 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

at least the guy was made whole financially?

I highly doubt that. The helmet alone was valued at £300. That leaves roughly £900 for the bike, and fines. Most of the decent beater bikes I've seen run around $2000, which equals ~£1300. I think he got shorted.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Ten points on license is pretty severe.

Fuck off.

Ten points is nothing, that's not even a ban. This really is a pussy pass, dangerous driving, or attempted murder should've been at least 12 points (a one-three year ban). For fuck sake, you get six points for driving without insurance. She literally tried to kill a guy, then played the "he reminded me of my big bad ex" card, and got away practically Scot free.

[–]cvance10 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She should definitely be in jail with her license revoked permanently or until a psychiatrist determines she is mentally stable.

[–]Cerehectus2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Fuck psychiatrists. They don't know anything. They're not an authority on the consistency of shit, let alone anything meaningful. All those assholes do are knead arguments like play doh until it feels right to them then they hand it off. They can make a case in connection with anything. They are advocates interpreting and judging forces they hardly understand.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can confirm, misdiagnosed like 10+ times by Psych people. Have a better chance of getting a weather prediction from a dentist

[–]MasterBassion 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, to be considered a fairly successful meteorologist, one only has to be correct ~50% of the time.

[–]FuncuzCapt-Save-A-Ho -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not attempted murder. If she had wanted to run the guy over then I'm pretty sure she could have as she did manage to hit him after all. She's an idiot but not an idiot who attempted murder in this case.

[–]holycrapolaness 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the critical question is, what would she have gotten if she had a penis? I seriously doubt it would have been just this, hence calling it light or lenient ... a PP if you will.

[–]MannekenP 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“He must have said something significant for her to respond in this way". Yeah, totally his fault.

[–]professorbooty25 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If he didn't want to be hit, he wouldn't have worn that dress.

[–]hguhfthh 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

victim blaming is in fashion again.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How?

[–]VicisSubsisto 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because she's British.

[–]Humankeg 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So she attacked a complete stranger that reminded her of her abusive ex... Sounds like she was the abusive one if she was willing to attack a stranger.

[–]hguhfthh 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

think the abbusive ex-partner is the woman.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How the hell did she avoid any jail time?

[–]Leetenghui 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Government is broke, prison in the UK costs £44000 per year per inmate. Women's prisons cost even more per inmate.

So unless you murder a cop very few people go to prison in the UK. Paddy a guy I know was involved in something similar he was on a motorbike he had an argument. Then rode off he was chased hit at high speed from behind and carried on the front of the car for 2 miles. She then braked hard he fell off AND she then attempted to go over him to kill him.

There was CCTV and helmet cam footage.

The police gave her a caution.

[–]TwoTailedFox 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does she do that to her patients too?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This belongs on /r/rage or /r/PussyPass

[–]HydrogenxPi 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Keyworth then drove off without sharing her details with the biker.

Ya think?

[–]throwabitch3 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Her lawyer seems like a douche bag.

He must've said something to her that's so significant that she reacted the way she did....?????? The fuck.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Answer a quick question to access this article"

How about you answer to these nuts.

[–]CornyHoosier 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But defending Keyworth, Robert Travis said that his client had been in an abusive relationship and so had reacted in the way she did.

If this is true then her children need to be taken away immediately for their own safety.

[–]VicisSubsisto 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't get it, looks like the pussy pass was at least partially in effect here.

[–]bigbuffblackman 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I need to go buy a dashcam and a go-pro...

[–]JohnnyKay9 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shouldn't this be in the pussycoddeling sub reddit?

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Original Comment:

The victim – whose helmet and Honda motorbike were a write-off after the crash

ordered to pay £1,290 in fines and compensation to the victim.

He hasnt even been fully compensated for his stuff and its still his fault somehow because she has been in a bad relationship in the past.

Full PP.

[–]Leetenghui 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Insurance will be ONTOP of this.

[–]thedoze 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

im not sure you understand how this works.

[–]Vitorfg 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She actually got the pussy pass. Used "abusive ex-partner" as excuse to try to kill someone. Plus she was texting while driving.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dumber than a newly adopted dog from the pound.

[–]DaanGFX 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"They had a verbal."

Verbal what...exchange?!?!?!?!?

[–]DillipFayKick 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

By the sounds of it, I'm totally sure it was her ex-partner that was abusive and not her. No PPD here.

[–]humpers96 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no denial here at all there were next to no consequences for her/

[–]belil569 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But defending Keyworth, Robert Travis said that his client had been in an abusive relationship and so had reacted in the way she did.

Ive got scars from crazy ex's in the past. Does not mean I come home and beat the hell out of my wife. What a moron of a lawyer.

[–]ISOanexplanation 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny how a male abuser is called a wife-beater but a female abuser is described as "being in an abusive relationship."

[–]NatsuDragneel2001 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

WHY IS THIS HERE, SHE WAS SPARED CHARGES, HOW IS THIS PUSSY PASS DENIED?!?!?!

[–]DeusMexMachina -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why I love you silly sissies.

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