Claim: College tells suicidal male student accused of sexual assault he can't have counseling--because his accuser was using those resources

Tmomp · 2016-01-14T13:22:00+00:00

a school must give the complainant options to avoid contact with the accused and "should minimize the burden on the complainant," not the accused.

What if male students pre-emptively but honestly complained about female partners to give them a chance at fairness? Not enough to get them in trouble, but to establish themselves as the complainant legally.

For example, after a sexual encounter, to go to the counseling center, Title 9 office, or whomever, and describe any honest source of discomfort with her. It would establish him as a complainant. For example, if truthful, he could say "I had sex with a woman but I never verbally said yes. I'm not sure if I truly consented."

What downside is there to a guy doing that? I see the downside to not doing it.

TrimHer · 2016-01-14T17:50:00+00:00

So, you're telling me a college can't figure out how to schedule their appointments so they don't have to see each other?

Slaviner · 2016-01-14T13:08:19+00:00

Well yeah. What are the "rape remembrance councillors" going to help him with? They're helping her remember everytime that someone brushed up against her as being rape.

They can't help him because he's a guy he can't be raped, he can only be a perp.

bertreapot · 2016-01-14T18:44:50+00:00

So let's put it bluntly: why should we be surprised if a college, in effect, tells a suicidal male student who was accused of sexual assault to go drop dead?

I think that is the point. Most colleges will put the accused man on suspension until there is a hearing, anyway. Meaning, pack up your shit and move out of the dorms, ASAP. It doesn't matter if you're suicidal and the school won't help you, because the school presumes you are guilty.

307Smash · 2016-01-14T13:17:35+00:00

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Slaviner · 2016-01-14T13:49:21+00:00

Im a college counselor and have never heard of a case like this. Worst case scenario the counseling services center would just have to assign them to two different clinicians.

MAX1948 · 2016-01-14T19:39:55+00:00

Basically they want men to kill themselves, its like women cant do anything themselves

apullin · 2016-01-14T17:55:24+00:00

And yet if you proposed establishing an all-male college, you would be excoriated, and accused of supporting "segregation". And those lambasting you would then turn around, and support racially segregated programs and women's-only spaces.

pintocat · 2016-01-14T17:44:36+00:00

Guilty until proven innocent

TheSOMT · 2016-01-14T17:29:59+00:00

The real story is that the college administrator never refuted the charge. If, on the other hand, some woman claimed she was sexually assaulted, the school's administrators would have been tripping over each other to say that the school takes all such claims seriously and that the school provides all sorts of resources for victims, etc.

teddtbhoy · 2016-01-14T20:31:05+00:00

This is so awful, I really feel for this guy and hope he pulls through.

PierceHarlan · 2016-01-14T16:27:43+00:00

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pnw_diver · 2016-01-14T17:17:42+00:00

Misandry on parade.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2016-01-14T19:14:29+00:00

Feminists keep claiming men don't reach out for help and that should be addressed, but they also dissuade men even moreso from reaching out by having them not taken seriously.

seeellayewhy · 2016-01-14T14:31:38+00:00

No sources mentioned anywhere in this article. No credible reason to believe it. Sure, if true its a terrible story. But the writer starts the story with those words: "if true".

There's no point in getting riled up about this story because there's no story there. No facts presented whatsoever.

doinggreat · 2016-01-14T20:59:07+00:00

Pierce, you've been writing great pieces for many many years and I appreciate all your hard work and time spent in fighting for justice. God save the Queen and God save Pierce Harlan.

Rethgil · 2016-01-14T21:53:08+00:00

To be fair if there was only one counsellor available who was already counselling the woman they wouldnt be able to help anyone related to her at all, be that a sister, best friend or brother. Sadly its a case of first come first served if seeing someone. But they should still have secured them alternative help. And that's only IF there was just one counselor. Which is a big if. If not? They should be fired.

Bikesandkittens · 2016-01-14T20:49:21+00:00

Of course he can't, that's a conflict of interest for the counselor and a boundary he can't cross. He's just following the rules, yo.

ARedthorn · 2016-01-14T15:43:08+00:00

A) conflict of interests

B) restraining order prevents the restrained from contacting people who are associated with the protected party

Title	Claim: College tells suicidal male student accused of sexual assault he can't have counseling--because his accuser was using those resources
Author	PierceHarlan
Upvotes	2959
Comments	89
Date	January 14, 2016 12:19 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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