Enough is enough. Another 19 year old who has to register as a sex offender when he's NOT ONE!! Get this jerk judge dethroned and save Zachery.

CommanderZx2 · 2015-08-04T16:09:01+00:00

You seem to get labelled as a sex offender for the most trivial of reasons over there. I've heard that you can be given such a label for as mundane activity as pissing in public.

Now I wouldn't do such a thing, but it seems bizarre to use the same label for someone who supposedly raped someone and someone who relieved themself against a wall.

Member12 · 2015-08-04T15:52:43+00:00

We are tired of this society and their ridiculous laws which are meant to stop sex offenders from hurting children, not JAILING teenagers for having consensual sex and ruining ones life in the process.

This is the state of the world and the law we live in. It is the first time in the history of mankind this type of ludicrous nonsense and totally appalling and I mean absolutely repugnant sentencing and condemning from our own justice system is occurring on this matter.

We need to protect our children from actual perverts. Not this grey area BS that's destroying young men's lives.

Also, that judge is atrocious and needs to be taken off the stand immediately.

Here is the story: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/us/dating-app-sex-offender-registry/index.html

Top of Reddit front page as well

Bubos · 2015-08-04T22:24:35+00:00

Aaah yes the good old illegal act of having consensual sex. That judge is one of those guys still scared by the internet who thinks everyone who uses it is a leet haxx0r and out to harm civilization.

He let his personal reasons and beliefs weigh stronger than anything else:

"That seems to be part of our culture now," he said, according to a transcript. "Meet, have sex, hook up, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior. There is no excuse for this whatsoever."

Let the justice flow through you

tonyespresso · 2015-08-04T18:29:06+00:00

That judge is totally out of control. This is an outrage.

basedbobby · 2015-08-05T04:07:27+00:00

Shouldn't have pleaded guilty and spent more on a lawyer. They tricked him into a plea deal type situation but fucked him over. This should've been dropped if you had the right person working for you

PlaneHijacker · 2015-08-05T02:16:21+00:00

Can we petition and rally up enough votes for Congress to see and get this judge atleast tried for impeachment?

pnw_diver · 2015-08-05T02:06:14+00:00

One petition, signed. Hopefully this Jerk Judge will get backed up to the wall and have to overturn his own decision.

SaviorCastiel · 2015-08-05T00:43:10+00:00

I can't even describe how much this pisses me off. It seems like the judge's decision was solely based on his own opinion.

chrispdx · 2015-08-04T22:59:15+00:00

Isn't this the same kid we've been reading about on Reddit for like the last month?

Ransom_Stoddard · 2015-08-04T18:03:04+00:00

I believe they should appeal and keep appealing any negative judgements, because they have a "good faith" defense, in which the young man had no idea he was committing a crime, because the horny little worthless cunt lied about her age.

Legal Precedent: United States v. Kantor

In US v. Kantor, which concerned underage pornographic actress Traci Lords, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals introduced a "good faith" defense against strict liability crimes in which the victim intentionally tricked the defendants into a factual mistake believing that no crime was being committed, which since has been adopted as precedent throughout the United States. A "good faith" defense requires showing that the defendant affirmatively had reason to believe that they were not committing a crime, not simply a lack of knowledge that they were.

More Info: Good Faith Defenses: Reshaping Strict Liability Crimes, by Laurie L. Levinson (PDF)

If they have a legal fund donation, this would be a good one to donate to.

EDIT: Apparently, the young man plead guilty, so there are no appeals possible.

MarinTaranu · 2015-08-05T06:13:20+00:00

Why didn't he go for a jury trial and hope for jury nullification? Or just a Not Guilty verdict? Bad move. I think the lawyer pushed him to accept a guilty plea.

HeyZuesHChrist · 2015-08-05T12:46:53+00:00

The sex offenders registry becomes useless when it's littered with people who aren't actual sex offenders. If we keep this up there will come a day when nobody cares about it anymore because it won't be a reliable tool to determine if you're living close to somebody who might be a threat. When everyone is a sex offender, nobody is.

myunholysins · 2015-08-05T03:53:08+00:00

How did the case even go to court, if the parents of the girl were on zachs side?

Torpedo_Borec · 2015-08-05T09:46:17+00:00

Wait, he can't use a computer? What? Is that a sentence a judge can give? If I was in that situation I would just get a fake passport and got to mexico.

xCAPTAINxTEXASx · 2015-08-05T11:03:24+00:00

Signed. The judge is an asshole.

Tarnsman4Life · 2015-08-05T13:02:37+00:00

Statutory rape laws need to have some element of good faith. If a store makes a reasonable effort to card an underaged teen and they present a believable fake ID, the store is not typically held at fault.

If I ask to see a womans ID to prove she is 18 before I fuck her, its a good fake, and I fuck her, turns out she is only 16, I am the criminally liable one?

This is one fucked up area of law plain and simple. It needs to be written to distinguish between people who prey on minors, knowing they are minors, targeting minors and people who act in good faith to establish someone is an adult only to be deceived by fraud.

ursnoni · 2015-08-05T06:59:13+00:00

sex offender registery?? what is that?

thehumungus · 2015-08-04T16:53:32+00:00

He IS a sex offender. He had sex with a minor. That's not in dispute. Just because you think he's being over-punished doesn't mean he didn't do something wrong.

The "her parents are cool with it" argument is pretty invalid. If her parents hated the kid's guts and wanted him punished, would you accept that, too? If a 15 year old's parents are cool with a 45 year old man having sex with her, is that acceptable?

Having statutory rape be a strict liability crime (meaning you don't have to prove any criminal intent, that just doing the action is enough) makes sense. If an older person convinces a younger person to have a sexual relationship with them, it wouldn't also be hard for them to convince that person to say they lied about their age, get them a fake id, etc.

The level of punishment doesn't make sense, but 19 year olds, men or women, SHOULD be punished for having sex with 15 year olds.

Title	Enough is enough. Another 19 year old who has to register as a sex offender when he's NOT ONE!! Get this jerk judge dethroned and save Zachery.
Author	Member12
Upvotes	1231
Comments	120
Date	August 4, 2015 3:47 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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