About the “wall”

RedPillDetox · 2021-03-22T13:20:53+00:00

It just a revenge fantasy from TRP dudes who grew up feeling undesirable while growing up and now fantasize about "that one day when you'll be old, ugly and alone and i'll be in my 30s at top of my game".

First things first, age is just a proxy for beauty. There are a ridiculous amount of women in their 40s who are much more attractive than many women in their early 20s i know. I don't know why no one ever points this out.

Secondly, all of the "women lose fertility" or "your chances of birthing children with genetic defects doubles" are just misguided bullshit statistics (women only lose 50% of their fertility by age 40, on average, and most birth defects may double, but the probability of these defects are already extremely low, so they go from like a 0,01% probability to a 0,05% probability lmao).

While i do agree that you lose beauty as you age and dating may get a bit harder for women in their 30s,with many of their peers prefering younger women, it's still a fact that people overwhelmingly date people close to their own age, so yeah.

I'd certainly not give a single flying shit about The Wall if i was a woman.

zoemondo · 2021-03-22T12:11:33+00:00

It's bullshit. I'm almost 30, same as all my friends. Life is great because we are out of the teens and early 20s bullshit everyone has to deal with in life.

There's a lot of responsibility that comes with being older. But I think it's worth it.

I have a ton of older relatives and friends. They say being in your 50s is where it's at. And none of them would ever want to go back to age 20ish.

HappyRainbowSparkle · 2021-03-22T12:16:06+00:00

It's total bollocks, women suddenly don't have some drastic change when they turn 25.

kuscheldecke1 · 2021-03-22T18:35:07+00:00

I feel you 😩 the only thing i don't understand is if women over the age of 30 are so unattractive for men, but have a lifespan of 75-84 years then why should women even marry or become a mother? Marrying in my 20's with a man who will find me disgusting for the next 40 years and who will probably cheat or leave me for a 20year old? That's so exhausting

cunningcaring · 2021-03-22T12:13:59+00:00

There is no wall. If you want to have kids do it by age 40.

thetruthishere_ · 2021-03-22T13:25:13+00:00

Its a pile of baloney. Life gets better as you age and heck no as someone almost 50 would I want to go back to my 20's! LOL

You only have a fertility window.

ciopink · 2021-03-22T14:27:43+00:00

Take care of yourself and you will look good for a long time.

Thounumber1 · 2021-03-22T18:16:47+00:00

25 being the wall is total bullshit. I've seen so many attractive women past that age. Tbh having a regular workout routine and proper diet will take you a long way. Also, skincare has come a looong way, and you can use things like retinoids to look younger. I really wouldn't worry about it.

I_like_the_word_MUFF · 2021-03-22T18:24:33+00:00

I'm close to 50 and I have yet to see this wall. I have divorced, graduated college, started a new career, dated, and am in another LTR all after the age of 40. I was married for 18 years and had a 25 year career prior to 40. I'm not even particularly good looking, so I am not sure why people are so crazy about aesthetics.

You're afraid of nothing if you're afraid of the 'wall'. It's just something young boys like to tell themselves to make them feel better about striking out with girls their own age. "Oh yeah, she'll suffer when she gets old and ugly" is something a little boy says, not a well adjusted man.

cabsmom2020 · 2021-03-22T19:30:32+00:00

Please don't listen to it. I'm a 51 year old female (average looks... and overweight, but curvy in the right places)and I date and have had quite a few men want attracted to me.

Ironically enough the last man I dated was red pill/ mgtow. He was 10 years younger. It wasn't my age that broke us up-it was other issues with his ideologies. I think he was starting to see that red pill/ mgtow wasn't completely right, but still held onto some hurtful ideas.

One_Ad1283 · 2021-03-23T02:17:53+00:00

I guess it's would shock them to know that people of all ages, all sizes, all economic backgrounds, racial/ethnic backgrounds, pretty people, ugly people, fat people, thin people, all shapes and sizes, smart people, stupid people are all hooking up, getting into long-term relationships, enjoying each other's company, and they've been doing this since the beginning of time.

They're just saying that to make you feel anxious, insecure, lower your standards for them so you'll put up with their shit.

The thing that bothers me about your post, why are you so worried about being alone. Lots of people men and women stay single and do just fine. Is that really the worst thing that could happen to you? Absolutely not.

A funny, one of those mgtow videos I watched said that older women are doom do to be alone and miserable with their cats and he had a cat playing in the background. 😂. He was the one that was all alone and miserable with a cat.

SnooMachines7712 · 2021-03-22T16:36:00+00:00

I listen to Pink Floyd and remember I am also too old for Michael Jackson

Adrienne926 · 2021-03-22T19:44:26+00:00

Once I realized that I was viewing myself through the male gaze and not through the female gaze it became easier to be nice to myself about the slow but inevitable ageing process.

Carloverguy20 · 2021-03-23T00:47:19+00:00

It's nothing but pure Redpill/Mgtow Cope. There are tons of attractive women post 25 years old. Some guys have peaked in school and are not attractive anymore

cabsmom2020 · 2021-03-22T18:12:53+00:00

The girl that brought me out of TRP (and my depression) is 12 years older than me at 35, and no joke one of the finest women I've ever met. Fuck those assholes and their pseudoscientific bs.

ThrowRA0990 · 2021-03-22T15:42:33+00:00

The wall is a term exclusively related to looks. Honestly I doubt you're going to look as good in your late 30s compared to your 20s. And you can compare pictures of most women and see what the wall means. But aging is natural and you can't avoid it, why worry? If you really care about looks, then just have a good diet, excercise, decent sleep schedules and take care of yourself. If you're worth more or less depending on looks, that's totally up to you

krmaml · 2021-03-22T21:26:26+00:00

You do realize that even 50 year old women can join Tinder and find an unlimited supply of young dick? If the redpill nonsense about the wall was correct how could old women get laid way more easily than old men, since men are supposed to age like wine?

Civil_Ad_7537 · 2021-03-22T14:50:52+00:00

You don’t because ugly or unattractive. You can be beautiful at 40, 50, 60 and beyond.

callothumpian · 2021-03-24T20:23:27+00:00

The wall is not purely about age it's also aboit how many 'miles' there are on the clock.

MammothMap1093 · 2021-03-23T11:53:08+00:00

i mean it depends on lots of angles and people i guess..

some will still find you attractive and will love you regardless(these don't care about the wall)

some will look into your past sexual and relationship experience before getting into commitment.(these people have a mild feeling about wall)

some(rare) may not get into commitment at all(strong believers of wall)

i think 25 is still young and you can have lots of chances to date many..be bold and happy

R3CLU2E · 2021-03-23T11:55:08+00:00

This reminds me of the interview with women. When are women most beautiful and desirable? in their early 20s. So they get less atractive with age? NO!! Are you crazy!??

Venerria · 2021-03-24T03:09:53+00:00

It requires the base concept that age is tied to the concept of "Sexual Market Value" or "SMV", which is really just a way of condensing the selection process into a black/white thinking. Although the mating game is inherently discriminatory in nature, the Red Pill takes it to the next level. I don't recall caring about any of this non-sense until after I read about it in RP rhetoric.

Take care of your health and you won't "age" in the way you expect.

Take care of your joints and posture, arguably this is the most influential factor for aging or the perception of aging. Everything is held up by the skeleton and muscle tone.

AltEffFore · 2021-03-29T21:29:54+00:00

I think it exists, but not to the extent that TRP groups say. I feel it even as a 24 y/o male. Most of the people I know are either already in LTR or married, or are in the mindset of no serious relationships at all. So yeah, the longer you wait, the more people your own age will be unavailable, regardless of your gender. When you do get older, you're faced with the problem that most people in their thirties will have some sort of baggage and whether or not you want to give them a chance despite that. And even if you look for a mid twenties person as a mid thirties person, if the trend for people in their mid-twenties follows the same trend as my group, the pool isn't very large.

Inlo94 · 2021-03-30T14:24:04+00:00

Well, i'm 25 and i've never been hit on as much in my life

Title	About the “wall”
Author	Alybun1307
Upvotes	14
Comments	80
Date	March 22, 2021 12:05 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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