More and more red pill coaches and self-improvement gurus are coming out as fascists, authoritarians and eugenics promoters. Do you think this has always been the case and their views have just found encouragement by now?

xvszero · 2023-11-21T17:24:22+00:00

Red pill is an inherently sexist ideology. Bigots tend to be bigots on several levels.

grown_folks_talkin · 2023-11-21T17:02:43+00:00

This has blown up since Covid. A lot of self-improvement types from New Age to redpill have exposed themselves as fascists. The Conspirituality pod covers this well. Pastel-Qnon was a term coined for the yoga types that fell into this.

All really sad to me.

ColdSnickersBar · 2023-11-21T19:47:16+00:00

I remember before “redpill” was the name, it was the PUA in the 2010’s, and before that “the seduction community” and MRAs in the 2000’s. They have always been right leaning at the very least. Hating women and supporting patriarchy is defo right leaning.

spiraldinosaur · 2023-11-21T19:43:25+00:00

To anyone who never went down that path, who never turned to the red pill, and maybe particularly for those of us who were a bit older when this whole red pill thing started to emerge, it's been obvious from the start. At a bare minimum, on the mildest end of the spectrum, the red pill is pushing conservative ideologies. But they all work as a pipeline towards extreme right wing ideologies including fascism.

Omega_Tyrant16 · 2023-11-21T17:04:15+00:00

Someone sounds like they just put down their copy of “The Time Machine” by HG Wells. Sheesh!

mousesleep · 2023-11-21T22:56:00+00:00

Republicans are repeating the history of Nazi Germany.

There's no way around it or to reframe it.

Republicans are repeating the 1920s of Germany.

Their leader, attempted coup, might be imprisoned, just as Beer Hall Putsch.

Day after day, Christian Republicans are pushing the Overton Window to rounding up us LGBTQ, illegal immigrant, homeless, and left wing Americans.

And we will feel God's wrath. They will end our existence.

It's not a secret. Republicans in YOUR neighborhood and Republican in MY neighborhood and Christians in YOUR community and Christians in MY community.... Want us deported, imprisoned, and killed.

That's just the reality. There's are republicans words.

We will be rooted out. Even legally acting Americans. We are vermin. And they want to end our existence.

Their words. Not mine.

Stargazer1919 · 2023-11-21T16:48:12+00:00

I think they're saying the quiet part out loud.

bluemagex2517 · 2023-11-21T17:58:02+00:00

Not all traditionalists are conservative, but most are.

Red Pill at it's core is a warped version of traditionalism. It's not a leap to imagine that most of it's leaders are going to be very conservative as well.

Conservatives are becoming more and more mask off fascist these days, so it's no surprise that these guys are as well.

Not that conservatives weren't horrible back in the day, they just wore a mask better. I'm not sure which was worse though. The Newt Gingrich/ Dick Chaney era of conservatives was pretty fucking bad too, but there were more hand ringy about their bigotry.

SweelFor- · 2023-11-21T21:37:13+00:00

Based on his own model, I would say that Hamza is a subhuman

candikanez · 2023-11-22T01:59:40+00:00

Of course it has always been the case. I swear all this red pill and incel crap is just another psyop, making men pissed off, super aggressive, and violent, so they screw up our country even more. It's radicalization. Meanwhile, all kinds of shit is going down behind the scenes and nobody is noticing any of it because they're so focused on who's fucking who and who's not fucking at all.

Meruem-x-Meruem · 2023-11-21T18:15:25+00:00

Here’s me with ADHD feeling attacked, lol. I’m intelligent, workout, eat well, and my attention drifts, ok??

NeuroDivers · 2023-11-22T12:02:48+00:00

That's exactly what marxists mean when they say fascism is capitalism in crisis : to be able to exploit people and justify war for resources, you must separate people into humans, who deserve rights, freedom and resources and subhumans, who are there for cheap labor and extraction of profit, who don't need rights because they are lesser.

It's not coincidence that these things have resurfaced in many countries. And especially sharpened up since Covid.

DearFellowSurvivor · 2023-11-21T18:27:17+00:00

It's always intended to be this way. It's called "ideological subversion." Tate and all them are just the buttered up fall guys. If you compare the old Red Pill handbook to what they talk about now, it was clear as day that this is a very typical blueprint of a stolen name for the purposes of creating ideological subversion groups.

That's why most of them want to ban books, erase history, eradicate the 'lesser' human forms like trans, put women back in the kitchen, silence the women they hurt, and whatnot. It's Nazi Germany all over again, except it's just online this time.

The switch to them promoting religion suddenly isn't even new. They're literally text book in every way. Them calling themselves "the truth" was literally the joke. They've never been and will never be the true Red Pill because they don't follow the rules.

goodboy92 · 2023-11-22T18:57:51+00:00

There is a blackpill YT called Tails that basically says that if you are not an Aryan 6'6 feet tall dude with a chiseled jawline and blue eyes, you are not a human being and that you should commit suicide or something.

Sinethial · 2023-11-21T16:58:07+00:00

I was a big supporter of coach Corey Wayne who is anti redpill and alpha male teacher before it was hijacked by the redpill.

He says he is anti redpill but went on a rant about the liberals taking their guns away and how the Dems were planning to take away democracy by stopping Jan 6 which was created to subvert democracy??

I don't get it. His work ok being strong and being very busy worked wonders with dating, but his views are more redpill then he realizes.

I fear in 2024 the US will appoint Trump whether he is elected or not with the new Pro Jan 6 Senate leader who has the power to certify the election shudder.

Collin_the_doodle · 2023-11-21T19:51:51+00:00

a little of column a a little of column b. Some were crypto all along. Some were just kind of conservative/libertarian, and got into mutual radicalization loops with their audience.

Red_Trapezoid · 2023-11-21T20:22:27+00:00

It's always been a similar mindset, whether they were aware of it or not.

featherblackjack · 2023-11-21T20:54:14+00:00

Absolutely. Pill content is directly authoritarian, it's just got a saggy bow on it to appeal to lonely men. Lonely, feeling disenfranchised? We have the cure for you, and it is HATE. That's how fascist power movements are built!

Familiesarenations · 2023-11-23T21:41:27+00:00

Actual fascists and eugenicists would consider these guys as degenerates. They should be careful what they wish for.

azucarleta · 2023-11-21T21:14:34+00:00

I think it's a pivot for many of them. Red Pill is old news. They have to find other grist for their mill, so they just look to their audience and who's watching them and what kind of other content do those people like that we could make, and bam--they out themselves as fascist and start doing more political content. They may have been fascist in their heart all along, or it might be they aren't fascist even today/now but are faking it for clicks and views. Either way, it was clear RP was an authoritarian ideology. The cross overs shouldn't surprise you at all.

tilted0ne · 2023-11-21T21:13:56+00:00

What are the problems you have with what he said? IDK where you get fascists, authoritarians and eugenics promoters from but these people are more conservative and libertarian in values. Self improvement in my memory has always been more the avenue of right wingers. Modern day leftist ideology is simply more conflictive with the typical pillars of self-improvement.

Brave_Revenant · 2023-11-28T10:00:40+00:00

It's not surprising. The line is very blurred between what red pill coaches and ultra nationalists say. Especially the reinforcement of traditional gender roles.

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