Why do men talk a lot about their ‘prime’

spiraldinosaur · 2024-03-10T14:21:35+00:00

It doesn't. You're searching for a fish in a desert. You've found one of the many, many contradictions within red pill rhetoric.

BKLD12 · 2024-03-10T12:18:34+00:00

I think it’s because men technically can have kids when they’re older while the baby factory gets fully shut down at a certain point with women, although at an older age than most redpillers would like to admit. Either way, the biological clock is not quite as obvious for guys.

There’s also a certain level of cope involved I think. They didn’t get the girls that they wanted when they were younger, so they say that all women like hot older men. And of course they’ll age gracefully and be a hot older man, all men age like fine wine, don’cha know? /s

CrossdressTimelady · 2024-03-10T14:54:10+00:00

They're delusional and don't want to acknowledge that actually they've let themselves go physically. 95% of the men I've overheard talking about how they want a woman in her 20s have zero fashion sense and also have some level of metabolic disease. They do not look young and hot by any stretch of the imagination hahaha.

bluemagex2517 · 2024-03-10T14:21:14+00:00

It's really hard to say whether it's mostly just misinformation or malicious behavior.

These are the same guys who use a fake heavy handed version evolutionary psychology to justify everything. But they're also the guys who are obsessed with making women feel less than and having power and control over them. It's sort of a chicken and the egg, which came first the pseudoscience or rabid misogyny?

Overall, definitely the misogyny came first; but on an individual level, some guys pick up the pseudoscience and conspiracy shit first and then buy into the misogyny later.

xvszero · 2024-03-10T18:59:17+00:00

Whenever it comes to red pill you have to understand something... they don't REALLY believe a lot of this shit. It's just a convenient narrative to try to control women with.

Mothkau · 2024-03-11T15:37:32+00:00

They refuse to admit that they age, too, and that they won’t be massively desirable as they age, get fatter, lose hair, get wrinkly saggy balls and bad sperm. We all age, it’s normal, but bashing women only helps them reassure themselves that women don’t want them now but that’s only because their prime is coming later.

It’s also way easier to ignore your lower fertility when the effects are on your partner having miscarriages. Blame the woman, ignore your low quality semen causing the issue.

Ok-Firefighter8779 · 2024-03-10T12:50:18+00:00

Men’s peak is around 20 yo. Since they turn 30, their testosterone starts to rapidly decline.

Meanwhile for women, the estrogen peak and best fertility is mid to late 20s, starts to decline after menopause, which is around 50 yo on average.

So yeah, men’s expiry date is about 20 years faster but they still push the propaganda about female biological clock 😂

Just because they technically can breed after 30, doesn’t mean they should. Kid will end up much healthier with a 40 yo mother and 20 yo father than other way round.

Mutations in sperm accumulate over time. It can lead to kid ending up with schizophrenia, autism, psychiatric and neurodevelopmental disorders in general, Down syndrome cardiovascular diseases etc etc.

If you’re a woman and plan to have a child in your 40s, consider a healthy sperm donor in his 20s.

Allusionator · 2024-03-10T17:41:51+00:00

Any excuse to hate yourself, that’s all it ever is. Make a game where only a tiny fraction of people are ‘okay’ and everybody else is ‘wrong’ for existing. They trick insecure people into hating themselves with this bullshit to sell supplements.

Astral_Atheist · 2024-03-11T22:55:18+00:00

They're trying to get women to have sex/relationships with them through coercion using fear. It's a form of abuse.

indigo_pirate · 2024-03-11T00:31:07+00:00

There is a prime for men. A man usually gets into their stride late twenties and early 30s. Usually have more financial independence, social confidence and direction that a younger version of themselves. I know quite a few guys , anecdotally, that are so much more put together and also successful with women in their late 20s compared to 18-25. Your mileage may vary of course; people take all kinds of trajectories for better or for worse

I don’t necessarily agree with their perception of the wall and female prime so I will just leave that alone

slvek235 · 2024-03-12T02:28:04+00:00

Personally I’ve found that men talk more about women’s prime/expiry date than their own

Beginning-Yak-5387 · 2024-03-12T04:50:01+00:00

Look up men’s “peak virility”. It says they’re most virile (basically their version of fertile) at 24-29. At 40+ their sperm if actively toxic to our wombs lol they’re so deluded to think that’s their “prime”

lvoncreek · 2024-03-10T13:10:59+00:00

ZenSawaki · 2024-03-13T17:56:58+00:00

Because they live in a wolrd of fantasy dettached from reallity.

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guppyhunter7777 · 2024-03-10T21:13:40+00:00

I was really hoping that this was going to be a discussion about my kids Transformers action figures collection. /sigh

Frankly you talk about it in high regard because it is really darn obvious considering, gender rolls, when you age out of it it's extremely noticeable. Doing physical labor at 50 feels a lot different than it did at 25. As the women in my life never split fire wood or laid a brick or tilled the garden this means something totally different to them. I'll bet it takes me about twice as long these days to split three cord if I try to do it by hand.

yaya-pops · 2024-03-11T23:13:59+00:00

It's a redpill excuse, but you asked why.

Women's bioligical clock on pregnancy gets completely turned off at a certain age.

It's possible for a man to get women pregnant until the day the man dies, though potency is obviously reduced, it's possible and does happen.

That's why.

Snicker94 · 2024-03-12T23:10:35+00:00

Well if they have educated themselves then they already had kids at this point not talking bullcrap.

grown_folks_talkin · 2024-03-14T21:56:19+00:00

It’s far easier for a guy to attract his “looksmatch” when both are 37 than when both are 27, semen quality notwithstanding.

ooa3603 · 2024-03-10T18:01:08+00:00

I'm opposed to redpill ideology, but intellectual integrity demands that I make the point, that:

The concept of "biological clock" is not one that only the redpill made up. Its origins are mainstream.
1. The redpill commonly uses real observations in fallacious arguments. An observation can be accurate, while its use in logic can be flawed.

I don’t understand the whole talk about the biological clock within women, when men also have a biological clock of fertility and health?

While men make lower motility sperm as they age, they are still viable enough to make children a significant percentage of the time. Especially if the man still makes a lot of them or there's genetic compatibility between the two partners. (Sometimes a woman's vaginal biome and eggs facilitates some men's sperm over others for not fully understood reasons)

In addition, society has a huge misconception about the impact of aging in health. While aging does mean there is degeneration that's starts to occur in a person's late twenties, the level of degeneration that most people think will happen is more because of their shitty lifestyle than actual aging. Put another way, the steep drop off from in health from 28 -55ish for most people is only steep because people stop maintaining their bodies, not because of aging. If you keep up your health with rigorous exercise, regular sleep and veggies. You will look and feel way younger than the norm that most of society thinks

So while age definitely impacts sperm motility, lifestyle also does too and as long as a man keeps a healthy lifestyle his sperm motility doesn't decrease that much until the very late stages of age.

So a 40 year old guy will absolutely have very high motility sperm if he's eating healthy and physically active. And a 40 year old guy who's been keeping himself active can likely have better sperm than a 28 year old who doesn't maintain himself

In any case, for men there's a non zero chance unlike for women whose egg production has a hard limit.

That's what's meant by biological clock.

It is a thing and it has real ramifications in dating and relationships. If you're a woman who wants kids, you can't leave off child birth unless you have enough money for medically induced conception. And if you're a man you should not be using up that woman's precious time unless you're ready to commit to raising a kid with her.

Where the redpill goes wrong, is assuming all women want to be mothers in the first place.

Are there are foolish men who don't maintain themselves and think their shitty low quality semen at 40 is healthier than at 28? Definitely.

But I think the prime that's being discussed here is more about the phenomenon most men experience where their sexual options greatly multiplies. Not that their sperm is better necessarily.

Title	Why do men talk a lot about their ‘prime’
Author	IndicationReal8195
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Date	March 10, 2024 12:00 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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