Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracy

Egalitarianwhistle · 2020-05-18T20:08:46+00:00

The hysteria of October 2018 is difficult to exaggerate. Even now, looking back over a year later I have a hard time believing how bad it was. McCarthyism is the closest American example.

I had a close friend accused of rape three weeks after the Kavanaugh confirmation. Despite attempts to show evidence that she had told three consecutive proven lies, I was told by the feminist alumni and students of a liberal arts college that it didn't matter because they had "chosen to believe."

I was a monster for contradicting her. They repeatedly tried to suppress the truth by shaming me online as a "rape apologist" and by assaulting me at the local bar and by calling my cohabiting girlfriend to make sure I wasn't abusing her.

The final straw was when a Title IX coordinator used revenge porn to blackmail me into silence for not "believing."

I was told the survivors group was frightened and triggered by my evidence.

Thankfully cooler heads have prevailed. But for a while there a lot of people actually meant "taking a leap of faith" in order to "believe." For those people evidence that multiple lies were told was just evidence of the accuser's trauma.

We still se the after effects inasmuch as people still believe Dr. Ford despite the corroborating witness than she named, Leland keyser saying of Ford's accusation, "It would be impossible..."

If you "start by believing" you can be made to believe anything.

I am relieved to see people walking this back and unsurprised they don't want to be held accountable for the harm they caused.

LGSpolAnon · 2020-05-19T01:11:04+00:00

She couldn't even defend her thesis all the way through the end of the article. The first chunk of the article is all about right wing bad faith (fair enough) and then she starts in on the "no true feminist" fallacies. But in the last three paragraphs she just drops the pretense and starts writing about the horrible consequences that occur when society doesn't believe all individual women.

The New York Times has got to be the shittiest, yellowest rag in the entire liberal media sphere.

Tmomp · 2020-05-19T01:04:05+00:00

Faludi would have shown integrity if she had written this article during the Kavanaugh hearings.

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2020-05-18T20:41:50+00:00

All this to protect Biden

istira_balegina · 2020-05-18T23:54:15+00:00

Wow, the propragndiest propaganda I have ever seen.

Susan Faludi, you would make Goebbels and Stalin proud.

qemist · 2020-05-19T23:11:14+00:00

"all" is implicit in "Believe women" because the statement is nearly vacuous without it because almost everyone has already believed a woman. Almost everyone was taught their name by their mother, and they believed her.

Melthengylf · 2020-05-19T16:43:51+00:00

I will say this. Differently to these "feminists" like Susan Faludi and Alyssa Milano, I actually do care about women, and I have seen the story about Tara Reade and I will say I completely support her. This self-destruction institutional feminism is doing is disgusting to me.

TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK · 2020-05-18T19:34:06+00:00

Did you read the piece? It's very accurate.

The rallying cry was "believe women" before conservatives got mad and turned it into "believe all women".

Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracy

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believewomen is the motte-and-bailey par excellence.

Title	Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracy
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Date	May 18, 2020 7:06 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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