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Fantoche_Dreemurr · 2019-05-29T17:53:33+00:00

Men having the option to sign out parental rights and obligations would solve single mom issues within 5 years and destroy women's most lucrative scam overnight.

White_Mlungu_Capital · 2019-05-29T16:55:21+00:00

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CiceroVoltaire · 2019-05-29T17:32:55+00:00

stop using logic! logic and reason are misogyny!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

febreezing_hobos · 2019-05-29T19:33:51+00:00

There should be a legal procedure a man can go through if no parental rights are desired. Just like an abortion, you will never be allowed contact with the child after the decision has been made.

Ezreal3 · 2019-05-29T19:37:23+00:00

This double standard is enough to make a lot of guys pro-life.

harmonic_blast · 2019-05-29T21:20:23+00:00

Her body, her choice

His money, her choice

The only control men have over their own lives is to either avoid women entirely or get a vasectomy and even then the latter won't protect a man from de facto marriage laws and misandry of the family courts.

PrinceRaj53 · 2019-05-29T16:11:11+00:00

How dare you ask this you sexist mysogistic pig rrrreeeeeee /s

carltonbanks95 · 2019-05-29T18:57:43+00:00

this has been my argument against abortion since I was around 9-10, it's not fair that men have to suffer loss of wages to a woman he's most likely no longer with and a kid he didn't want or couldn't afford and it's somehow still his responsibility to pay for the kid as well as being blamed for "sticking his penis where it didn't belong". had this conversation with my older sis and she acted like men are the sole reason pregnancies happen, like women aren't the gate keepers of sex in the first place, essentially removing all agency from women and it pisses me off.

this whole "her body her choice" shtick really grinds my gears because it takes 2 to have sex and make a child but only one to make the decision whether or not to keep the kid and it's just not right. feminism has gone to far and made their ulterior motives come into the forefront with all the man hating and female superiority. I had 0 respect for any woman who claimed to be a feminist in the 21st century as a kid but now I just absolutely loathe them

the2xstandard · 2019-05-29T20:40:42+00:00

I'm split on this. On the one hand paper abortions would finally give men some reproductive rights. In a perfect world where the mother could keep actually steady job and afford to raise the child all by herself this would work, but we all know that single mothers are the armpit of society.

Lets be real for a second. If Chad and Tryone could just sign a piece of paper and absolve all financial liability... all this really means is that big daddy government is going to be paying for the kid... and by extension all the tax payers are paying for that kid... since men as a whole are positive contributors and women are a net drain... this means all men would be paying for that kid. If you apply the transitive property here we would literally all be cucking ourselves into paying for thugspawn.

I know that to some extent I am already paying for single mommies through the endless entitlement programs made for them. Yes, it is definitely already happening. My argument is that it would happen on a much larger scale. Not sure if I'd be okay with that. For now my solution is to wait for artificial wombs if I want kids.

JihadNinjaCowboy · 2019-05-29T16:47:38+00:00

A valid point.

Just another example of how while women get choices and rights, men only get obligations and responsibilities.

Sneakybobo · 2019-05-29T17:28:41+00:00

Cause Vagina

Rodrick71 · 2019-05-29T20:13:00+00:00

Cause women have choices and men have responsibilities

treesplease12 · 2019-05-29T18:56:26+00:00

Too much logic right there 😂

october-ru · 2019-05-29T19:22:15+00:00

As Dave Ramsay would say to this, “it’s part of the deal(marriage)”

laptopdragon · 2019-05-30T00:26:36+00:00

or an ex-wife?

if she came from the trailer park, she can find her way back there. All we should be responsible for is maybe an uber fare.

Just because things didn't work out perfectly, why is a man forced to support her selfish lifestyle forever?

at some point, it's also gotta be proven that women MUST have children as part of their (possibly only) biological goals in life. They don't want YOUR kid, they need A kid. They don't care who the father is, and this has been true since forever.

Deydrania · 2019-05-30T02:40:38+00:00

Asking this question on the abortion Reddit gets you an immediate ban

Hearty-Pancakes · 2019-05-29T18:05:38+00:00

I believe that both parties should be able to give consent, but then again there are instances of rape where that's completely irrelevant

manta23 · 2019-05-29T19:18:21+00:00

If a woman can have an abortion

because she simply doesn't want the child,

why can a man not simply do to the woman

what she does to the child?

Disclaimer:

Don't do this at home

or anywhere else

We are the gender

with mental health

Mental health issues women.

Sibmj7 · 2019-05-30T00:32:20+00:00

Incomparable. The real question is if the woman is allowed to opt out being a mother. Then a man should be able to opt out of being a father.

Similarly if a woman is forced to become a mother. Then a man should also be forced to become a father. And f he declines then child support is only fair starting from the day of contraception.

Mythicalsky · 2019-05-30T01:00:16+00:00

Getting a vasectomy was the best decision I ever made. 100% protection from that racket.

st00dup · 2019-05-30T05:14:32+00:00

Men pay the majority of taxes in every age group. So long as single mothers receive welfare all men are paying child support regardless.

CrumbledCookieDreams · 2019-05-30T00:46:29+00:00

Everyone should be happy about abortion becoming illegal then. They keep the sucky kids. Everyone else keeps paying. No-one wins.

U-94 · 2019-05-30T01:52:12+00:00

Everybody needs to hop into a time machine back about 250 years where you had 14 kids and half of them died. Every year or so, you spent a weekend burying one. Then your wife dies. So you marry the sister. Constant drudgery and sorrow all around. Every sperm was not sacred.

ksoviero · 2019-05-30T02:28:06+00:00

I've been told it's because "he consented to the child support payments the moment he stuck his dick in"

Papalopicus · 2019-05-30T04:07:36+00:00

I just find it so goofy with this argument, like take one topic then make it about yourself. Like?? Yall gotta think sometimes

TickPocket · 2019-05-30T05:38:35+00:00

This is why I, ////a hardcore feminist////, strongly believe that financial abortion for men should exist in all places where medical abortion is safe, legal, unobstructed, uncontested, and free to obtain.

Women, in places where they have adequate human rights which respect their right to bodily autonomy (and acknowledge that no human has the right to live by using another human’s body to survive without their consent) are effectively allowed to choose whether or not they become a parent (a mother) once a pregnancy has occurred. Men, impending fathers, don’t have that choice.
In places where women are not given the choice then obviously men should not have that choice either, but the most egalitarian thing to do would be to allow men to sign OUT of pregnancy within the same timeframe that a woman can abort, provided he notifies her of his decision and she acknowledges there is a pregnancy that belongs to him to begin with.

It would be a tricky system to manage but I think it would be well worth it to allow men the option to withdraw from the rights and responsibilities of parenthood, as long as the woman still has the time and social/medical freedom to make HER decision as well.

ricktr0ll · 2019-05-30T13:47:14+00:00

Well one option there is no fucking baby. The other option it’s born. Making a baby requires two people regardless of how little the man wants to be in it’s life. Some men do sign their rights away but those are usually cowards.

GutheartPrombox · 2019-05-30T13:53:43+00:00

r/selfawarewolves

defiance211 · 2019-05-29T23:52:02+00:00

God damn right!

geoffersonstarship · 2019-05-30T01:38:08+00:00

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E-roticWarrior · 2019-05-30T02:35:40+00:00

BOOM ON THAT!

NH_Lion12 · 2019-05-30T03:26:38+00:00

Hm....

It's pretty shitty to leave her on her own with the kid, but if he doesn't have to pay for the kid, that should be factored into whether or not she wants to keep it. And it's not like she's not partially at fault for getting pregnant (excluding rape, stupid shit with condoms etc.).

Almost no man would ever pay it in that case, though.

voidspectator · 2019-05-30T04:24:41+00:00

I have my reservations on this to be honest. There is a big difference in men and women biologically speaking. A women has to endure 9 months of pregnancy why we men don't have to. It's easy for us to make babies since we are the raw material for the factory which are women lol. Just because we tell ourselves that we go on our own way, doesn't mean we lose compassion and empathy for others.

qantuum · 2019-05-30T06:03:04+00:00

I know of a chick who did not ask for financial support from ex-husband when she divorced. She is proud that she held on by herself (also with state help I guess). I wonder what's wrong with her :p

2019-05-30T06:30:25+00:00

What was the AOC tweet he was replying to?

amitoughenouss · 2019-05-30T07:15:19+00:00

Am I allowed to agree with this while simultaneously being a woman?

n0cternel · 2019-05-30T07:39:46+00:00

This will be reversed one day...you're right it doesn't make sense if abortion is legal. At least within a certain time frame.

HarryDyckenhaand · 2019-05-30T10:21:18+00:00

Man Abortion = Not supporting financially.

We should have that exact same option, if they want that privilege back, they'll have to agree that they are on their own if we dont want kids.

PhireFoenix · 2019-05-30T15:08:35+00:00

i asked this on /r/NoStupidQuestions

qloudx · 2019-05-30T15:21:36+00:00

All depends on context of course!

rageth · 2019-05-30T17:01:38+00:00

Well in 2 years I’m finally free of the obligation. I could have paid a house off with what it cost me. Didn’t have any say in the matter.

Anthony_plays01 · 2019-05-31T04:21:26+00:00

Wow that is very enlightening

Anthony_plays01 · 2019-05-31T04:21:40+00:00

Wow that is very enlightening

TritonHL · 2019-06-06T22:49:19+00:00

It’s like people never heard of safe sex. To say accidents happen is a bit much. Dropping your phone is a accident. Tripping over something is an accident, but for two people to decide to not use protection and call it an accident? I call bullshit on that. Then be able to abort it for FREE? Nah motherfuckers you guys gotta pay up. You guys made all of these choices so deal with them.

Yeah condoms break sometimes, but there’s more options to use than just condoms that can be used in conjunction so I don’t wanna hear it.

I’m pro-choice because I’m not gonna tell you what you can or cannot do, because I’m just some jackoff like everyone else. You’re gonna abort? Ok go ahead, I’m not gonna live with that decision. Same if you decide to keep it. But you need to take responsibility no matter what you pick, not the gov.

This is about two consenting adults though. For rape victims and all that then I agree they should have the help of the government and have access to everything they need such as abortion.

ViSosnowska · 2019-06-21T18:20:14+00:00

Uh because he made the child?

RussianTrollToll · 2019-05-30T02:31:05+00:00

Men should have the legal right to terminate a “cluster of cells” in the woman’s body if it’s his DNA.

I don’t support abortion but I think this idea is interesting. The males are sure getting the short end of the stick in recent legislation regarding offspring.

troubleddreamer · 2019-05-29T20:41:59+00:00

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keltsbeard · 2019-05-29T19:35:37+00:00

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Salvatore_opressor · 2019-05-29T20:04:49+00:00

Omission you moron! Do not confuse lifestyle with omission and irresponsibility! Because when it was time to fuck it was good, right? Now after the child is born guilty, it is only with the woman. Idiot! No one child is to blame for the shit that THE PARENTS HAVE.

schlatt9 · 2019-05-29T23:22:14+00:00

Because a woman not only has to carry that child inside of her for 9 months, but also has to give an extremely painful birth?

swansong19 · 2019-05-30T00:43:24+00:00

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bryanboss09 · 2019-05-29T20:38:52+00:00

if a man doesnt wanna have a child he should have a vasectomy

in fact all men should get a vasectomy until they’re ready to have a child

ElMatador_33 · 2019-05-29T16:30:41+00:00

Stupid logic. One is actually a human. The other isn’t alive yet.

Title	BOOM
Author	blackjackANDplates
Upvotes	2163
Comments	192
Date	May 29, 2019 4:06 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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