I feel so empty, how do you guys do it?

JohnDoe721 · 2021-04-28T01:16:29+00:00

Sure. But women won't change that. If it is serve seek professional help.

We live in a world were we (according to our brain) dont have to earn anything.

My magic phone just paid for food and beer. Bang. Didn't have to hunt for 6 hours. It fills a hole but doesn't fill the need.

Men need to feel needed. Find someone who needs you. Dm me if you want.

deano413 · 2021-04-28T02:18:20+00:00

You are insignificant. There are 7.6 Billion humans right now. Make peace with it.

The world is large with many interesting places to see, and interesting things to do. Start trying them.

You'll never find peace without that, no matter how large of a family you have.

yjama405 · 2021-04-28T03:31:10+00:00

Maybe you feel that way because you feel like a woman should make you feel whole. Not every man can go his own way, maybe that lifestyle isn't meant for you. You're still seeking validation from outside sources to feel whole, might be deeper issues. Maybe professional therapy is the way to deal with it. Whatever the outcome, peace and health be with you

pinewoodpine · 2021-04-28T01:16:11+00:00

I simply recognise that as fact and move on. The world is small, yea, but it never lacks anything interesting to do.

MostlyPeacefulReddit · 2021-04-28T04:19:14+00:00

Realizing that everything is meaningless is a wonderful gift, because it gives you, a human being, the power to decide what has meaning.

Last week I cut my neighbour’s grass for him. He’s old, and didn’t ask, which is why doing it felt so good. I decided that gave my life meaning.

Do that every day and you will live and die with a purpose; to make life better for everyone and yourself at the same time.

CuriousIncel2 · 2021-04-28T02:14:27+00:00

Might be signs of clinical depression. Seek professional help.

SonOfAldrete · 2021-04-28T06:23:23+00:00

You have to have things you look forward to doing. It can be anything. Buying stocks and checking for price changes a hundred times a day, getting ripped, getting out of the house, reading & writing, or the usual gaming. It's unreasonable to expect bliss when you don't put any effort in.

Some of the best emotional support can come from dogs, who can't take your income, wealth, children, and home from you. If you need humans for this, talk to a therapist. If you need a feminine presence that won't store the info to attack you with, get a female therapist. You could talk to your boys, but that isn't something men generally do.

Probably you have an idealized vision of what you want your life to look like, but that is a fantasy. If you show weakness to a female you are in relationship with, it can only go poorly long term unless you find a unicorn.

I have spells of melancholy myself, but that's easily explained by working a full time job, doing full time school, and having permanent insomnia. I'm usually ok on the days I feel well rested. Not sure if you have any similar problems.

Nathaniel66 · 2021-04-28T05:00:50+00:00

Just find what you like to do and start doing it. My life is stable, every day is the same, boring for most of the people and i love it.

If you need a companion get a dog. You'll get to know what it feels to be loved. Mind, the day will come your dog will pass away and it's very hard to swallow.

Tanabe4472 · 2021-04-28T02:11:34+00:00

I know someone like this too. If you feel empty, look at life as your sand box. Just try many things until you find your passion. Try to get a pet, or volunteer to places like Food banks, or Habitat for Humanity. Maybe learn new skills?

DownVotesWrongsOnly · 2021-04-28T02:54:50+00:00

You don't. You let Jesus take the wheel.

1fastIrocZ · 2021-04-28T02:33:23+00:00

You can't handle being single.

SexyThrowaway143 · 2021-04-28T01:24:06+00:00

Find your passion. All of the money and friends in the world won’t fill you like a job that you love going to daily or a new hobby. I just picked up designing RGBIC lighting and tying in graphics to music and making all 4 systems that aren’t tied in together, work. It’s made me want to learn how to code so I can control and automate everything in one place. I’ve been doing it a month and one of my videos went “kinda viral” lol.

Behold:

This actually tells a story and I’m proud of it. It is a story of how we all face adversity at the same time but in different ways. me and my 3 kids are in it. find us :)

Point being this makes me excited. It isn’t my job but it makes my job better. It makes me happier which I turn makes those around me happier and so on and so forth.

UnearthlyDinosaur · 2021-04-28T20:41:23+00:00

I can sit here and say “find your passion” but even IF you have a passion you might still feel blah.

I’m not going to lie. Life is boring.

forsandifs_r · 2021-04-28T20:45:36+00:00

Read 12 rules for life by Jordan Peterson.

anonylaw2 · 2021-04-28T20:40:42+00:00

I don't know man. Haven't been able to answer it myself. I learned not to chase women not to treat them how I was taught by my single mother and I have been respected more in general but not really like a complete 180 it's subtle. But since then it's like yeah that fire is just gone. That there is no point in anything. That my desire to anything is just gone. Even the hobbies I had and the educational path I'm taking have lost all joy and interest to me. Then I lost someone in my family this month and it just puts me in this place where I see no ability to make any change that would help me on a path to where I want to be. Therapy and all that nonsense has not be helpful at all. Making attempt #29 at it now. Maybe something will be different this time but I highly doubt it. Honestly don't want to go past 35. Just get this sense of going out while I still have loved ones in my life seems so much better than going at 75 utterly and truly alone. Sorry I don't have a lot that can help its a pit that's extremely draining and difficult to overcome. I wish you the best in your path.

SUEDE2BLACK · 2021-04-28T21:18:20+00:00

A women won't fill the void maybe temporarily but it will come at great cost.Now you stand on the edge of a dark abyss but a woman will push you in,most of the time.

I really do recommend synthetic companions they aren't perfect but worth a shot,and then find a purpose in live outside relationships with women.

My soul purpose in life was to make a lot of money become financially independent achieve FIRE , I did that then I met a girl she became my purpose I walked through fire for her...

She left I wasn't heart broken just empty I lived everyday for her to be honest life was good I was happy for the most part though the relationship was toxic,I had no other issues in life so it was easy to focus on her.

Took some time to find a new purpose but I have found it and feel more alive than ever I can spend the rest of my life working towards it.

I think men are problem solvers by nature finding a problem to solve may solve your problem.

TigPlaze · 2021-04-28T21:28:44+00:00

Find some interests and join clubs. The pandemic will be over soon. What do you like? Hiking? Archery? Foreign languages? Theater? Video games? Programming? There have got to be some things that you love. Go meet up with like-minded people.

19780521reddit · 2021-04-28T21:43:10+00:00

did you get a boat? have you sailed around the mediterranean ? have you seen the sunset on that boat on the coast of Greece?

have you followed the transhumance of animals in africa?

did you get lost in the street of Firenze?

Have you rode a bike crossing vietnam to cambodia to laos?

have you spent time on a faraway island in the philippines?

Have you heard the song of a whale in Tahiti?

etc.

if not how can you say you lived?

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Ok-Ad-975 · 2021-04-28T22:38:23+00:00

More philosophy and self interest. You can take care of yourself now in ways that you wouldn't have before.

PuckerTension · 2021-04-28T23:10:36+00:00

Get a dog bro.

marcusaureliuswisdom · 2021-04-28T23:20:28+00:00

As is said throughout this thread, you need purpose. If you’re going to live 80 years, you’re going to need more than a so-called “passion” or a career or a hobby.

Most men throughout history have found purpose in the same way: by creating. And the simplest path to creation is family. It’s why, for thousands of years, men have derived purpose from their progeny—raising men that are better than they were.

“All men know their children mean more than life.” -Euripides

sacandbaby · 2021-04-29T00:22:11+00:00

Build a nice home theater and enjoy all kinds of shows and movies. Get carry out too. Had the best pizza last night from a place across the street.

charlesboymary · 2021-04-29T00:54:43+00:00

The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. -Thoreau

You have many opportunities to do great things brother. Just don't waste time.

mjladieman · 2021-04-29T01:04:01+00:00

Lmao I’m empty too, but why would I fill myself up with temporary happiness from a fefail only to be punished for it & to lose everything.

jacknifejones · 2021-04-29T19:20:17+00:00

You only ever possess three things in this life: your mind, your body and time.

I've come to see life as a game where the aim is to use my allotted as wisely as possible to develop the first two to the highest level I can.

I think this is why the advice of "get a hobby" is so prevalent. Hobbies are specific means to develop in a specific area of mind/body.

Play a musical instrument, learn physics, dance on a longboard, learn to fight like Tyson or whatever else the fuck you want - but try many things, and master the ones that excite you the most.

This way, your life is a sacrifice of yourself to yourself. Become a demi-god among the mediocre, and when it is time to pass through the gate of death, you can smile with satisfaction at a job well done, knowing that you ripped the throat out of life like a mad fucking pitbull; instead of wishing you had another few years to watch Disney plus.

Rooftopred · 2021-04-30T04:46:30+00:00

I was was having similar feelings up until a couple weeks ago. Had them for years. I ended up seeing a psychotherapist and it’s actually helped a fair bit. You may find value in seeing some sort of therapist as well.

From what you’ve written it seems like you’re not getting the emotional connection and support you need. It can be hard to talk to friends about stuff like that and mgtow men don’t have wives or girlfriends to speak to either. Someone to help you work through difficult emotions and take an interest in what you’re feeling may help you restore colour to the bland world you’re currently in.

prove_this · 2021-04-30T21:17:06+00:00

Sure you don't have depression? That can suck the fire out of life.

If you're sure than two things...one you're missing fun hobbies.

Buy a sports bike.

Two - religion is meaning in life. Being bored won't make you believe anything. Maybe try going to a church once a month for a while? It's just a sunday morning - it might change your life. It might not.

nikhil316 · 2021-04-28T17:06:13+00:00

Find something you are good at and pursue it professionally which will pay your bills. Now find something that you are passionate about and use your free time and weekends/off days to build a business around it. It may take years but you will ultimately be able to leave your job.

Now engage in an activity that keeps you fit, it could be martial arts, sports, yoga, weight training & eat healthy,. This will cover your health and fitness & you might make friends while you are at it.

RatingsOutOfTen · 2021-04-28T12:54:17+00:00

I feel exactly that way. On top of that general feeling, I can't prioritize gardening and keeping my land nice or improving my house, because HAAAALF of it will just be given to my ex, so I'm cleaning it and all of that, but not repairing the leaky roof or the rotten wood that needed paint years ago or anything.

I feel alive when I exercise, or try to come up with some kind of project to do. I go on Tinder or Okcupid every 2 or 3 months and I end up reminding myself why I don't want to date anyway.

A long term project where you can objectively see results might help you.

Roachcluster · 2021-04-28T15:51:43+00:00

Friends and stuff won't suffice when you feel like you have no self worth. The answer to your question is in your statement above - "I live for nothing/no-one and nobody lives for my sake."

That statement tells me that you don't even live for yourself and you do not consider yourself worthwhile. Here is a clue - no one (not your friends, some woman etc.) will love you like you should love yourself. Oh and if you are wondering, getting a girlfriend or wife isn't going to help either - why? Because all you are going to do is outsource your need for validation and self worth onto the woman and guess what - it will never be enough.

Women do this same crap, why do you think so many of them walk around claiming that they were bored or they were not happy. Like the husband/bf's job is to keep them entertained and happy 24/7.

Grandpa_MGTOW · 2021-04-28T01:53:20+00:00

Do you provide emotional support for others? For family or friends? If not, that might be a good place to start.

Few people ask men "How are you going? How can I help?" Perhaps make a point of that.

yamahantx700 · 2021-04-28T02:17:25+00:00

Get a girlfriend and carry her purse everywhere for her. Or just cut off your balls and shove them in her purse. That will set you straight.

Why would you ask me to give you meaning in life? Obviously, you need to find it yourself. Pursue your happiness.

mchief101 · 2021-04-28T02:42:44+00:00

I feel the same way...i am financially stable etc but some days i feel down. Idk why. Lifting and cardio helps in some way.

Maximum-Biscotti-247 · 2021-04-28T04:17:15+00:00

Just meditate, it helps with all kind of attachment.

SinofTruth11 · 2021-04-28T05:45:59+00:00

You need to look into meditation and siddhis my dude.... If you have enough practice and talent you can become omniscient and omnipotent [ at least in theory.... I've experienced precognition, clairvoyance, etc ] but omniscience and omnipotence would allow yourself to be put in a state of peace and bliss anytime you feel like.... if you have enough fuck you money like you seem to indicate or not too far off then go full time meditation

TheMightyBeak376 · 2021-04-28T05:56:54+00:00

I'd suggest you to take a break from work and get close to nature. We might be living in a modern society but our brains are still that of a caveman's. I'd suggest trying out hobbies like hunting, camping, trekking and anything that pulls you closer to nature.

nfk_13 · 2021-04-28T06:09:22+00:00

Follow a religion(islam presumably).

Living the materialistic life has its limits. because there is no higher purpose in just eating,shitting and going to the job everyday. There must be a reason you exist

Life by it self is dull and boring. You could do thrilling things... maybe mountain climbing or something.( No islamophobic replies )

Massgumption · 2021-04-28T07:14:50+00:00

Be of service to someone.

tldr3203 · 2021-04-28T09:04:15+00:00

Well, it could be much worse. Imagine you would feel like that, but also had an angry bitch to take care of.

Problem with depression is usually environment, diet and exercise. Fix that.

justadude713 · 2021-04-28T09:17:24+00:00

find a purpose higher than yourself. give back and mentor others.

KeertanMandali · 2021-04-28T10:15:00+00:00

Join r/exredpill and leave this forum. Because if it isnt working for you why the hell to care what and how radical Feminism is or how trash some women are? It's not too late.

Klotzek · 2021-04-28T11:26:30+00:00

Learn to be happy on your own or become a tool for a woman who will never love you but you feel "usefull". Its your choice.

Solo_and_Simple · 2021-04-28T11:53:56+00:00

I have friends that I have fun with, but no meaningful relationships. I have disposable income but materials dont fill the void in my head. It feels like everything is pointless. Like my own existence is too insignificant and like I live for nothing/no-one and nobody lives for my sake either.

I'm sorry you're feeling that way about your life. I've felt that way at times, too. I do think that feeling connected (meaningful relationships) is part of a good life. Money and things won't ever satisfy the deeper hungers.

I'm a really introverted person, so I've had a hard time establishing (or even motivating myself to establish) good, solid relationships in my life. I've managed, but only at a sort of minimal level, not flourishing. I have some good connection with a couple family members, and one friend I see occasionally, as well as some friendly relations with neighbors, but I would like more.

So I'm not really any expert. All I can say is, if you want more meaningful relationships in your life, focus on cultivating that. Don't get impatient, because it takes a long time. Don't shame yourself for not having them. It's a very common problem in our society.

I know it's trite, but dogs (or other pets) can help, too. They are great friends, in their own way. And don't neglect nature connection, either. Especially in dense urban environments, people get cut off from nature in a way that is not healthy at all, and which adds to their sense of disconnection.

Ultimately, I think we have to become aware of all the ways our society conditions us to think in unhealthy, disconnected ways, and to learn a new sort of worldview. That's a long, challenging process, but it's worthwhile.

Serend1p1ty · 2021-04-28T14:29:03+00:00

Falling into that hole of nihilism is common throughout this sub. There's nobody to do anything for, nobody to impress and i think a lot of men suffer that problem here. It then has the horrible conclusions like suicide.

Our job is to get you out of that space.

Most men would say "that's easy, find a girlfriend". It would solve your problems (and give you many more). You'd have someone who depended on you. Someone reliant on you.

However, modern society doesn't quite work that way anymore. Women don't "need" us like they used to.

The alternative is to construct your own meaning, and do so with conviction

You could attach yourself to a cause and a purpose, where your skills were essential to the survival of that cause in some way. It feels pretty good to be needed, because feeling needed gives me thirst for life.

What if that cause was yourself?

I want you to imagine a younger clone of yourself. He is scared, the world is overbearing. Wouldn't you treat that younger version of yourself with kindness? Coax him into doing things he was scared to do? When he tried, you marvelled at his efforts. Raise this younger brother version of yourself appropriately and he will find happiness and a sense of purpose. Negotiate with him, don't demand from him and he will feel respected.

Your "Younger brother" needs you.

Judas_priest_is_life · 2021-04-28T14:52:52+00:00

Find a purpose.

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2021-04-28T15:24:16+00:00

You are approaching that "peace with nothingness" zen because you have detached from people and things, so that is a good thing. Buuuuut, I think the situation is, what if you are yearning for company and things to do? How can someone get that spark again?

You are free to pursue what you want. The issue with others is that they have so much noise in their life, they can't see or feel what they want. You have a blessing where you have time and tranquility to pursue your interests.

Sure, some people know what they want to do, but the truth is, to be inspired, you have to witness and be a part of things. Doing nothing is just rotting away. I know, because I do this. After my heart surgery, I made a choice to live my life, good or bad. I may not live to the standards of others in terms of goals (getting married, having kids), but it doesn't mean I am banished to not existing.

All I can say is, reading, playing video games, posting online, watching movies is very good.... but social interaction is the tough element for me. Some people do dating, play sports, do things on Meetup.com, join clubs.... Humans are social creatures, and sometimes interacting with others does give us a purpose.

Give it a try. Don't put yourself at risk. Break out of your routine. Get out of the house and talk to new people interested in things you like. The thing with MGTOW is not to have blind faith in other people where they lead you to unhappiness.

Plazmatron44 · 2021-05-11T12:33:26+00:00

You have to accept that there will always no matter what be people that have more than you, only a certain few get to be astronauts and billionaires, accept it and move on, you'll become happier.

Obvious_Yoghurt6042 · 2021-04-28T04:22:49+00:00

Advice? Get off this f***ing pseudo support group. Read great literature, listen to beautiful music, revel in the good things in life, study and learn and have objective discussions. Seriously disturbing that so many people feeling existential void and dread come to this dumbass thread.

Title	I feel so empty, how do you guys do it?
Author	gaiden_ninja
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Date	April 28, 2021 1:07 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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But women won't change that.