I don't normally like talking politics because for me content is always more important than delivery.

However, I think we should note that a lot of women are drawn to feminism under similar situations that men are drawn to the MRM.

They encountered something horrific in their life that was attributable to their gender and found a movement that empowered them and gave them the feeling of strength to fix an injustice.

So any attacks against that movement, whether it be the MRM or Feminism, are taken as hostile and otherwise moderates then polarise to their 'side' when "feminism" or the "MRM" comes into question.

To avoid this, I think it's important we stop using the word feminist so flippantly. Since there are women who identify with that word who have never read anything on feminism nor ever taken a women's studies class. I propose we adopt the Christina Hoff Sommers approach and label Feminism accordingly:

  • Gender Feminism: Being the fascistic branch of feminism that you see on the more extreme subreddits such as radfems. At the heart of this is female supremacy. These are the feminists who, for example, blame men for their women's meeting descending into a cat fight (in reference to a recent article posted on /r/MR).

  • Equality Feminism: Being the more benign feminism that you see on TwoX that is mainly concerned with the obsession society has with shaming women's bodies and curtailing their reproductive rights.

One advantage of using this distinction is that the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy cannot be used (i.e. they are not real feminists, feminism is a big movement). If you call out gender-feminists for bigotry, by using that prefix we tacitly recognise that there is at the very least one feminist who doesn't toe that line.

Having said that, it still does bother me that feminists and feminism (as a whole) don't support the idea of men's shelters because "the whole world is a men's shelter". Whilst claiming they are fighting gender-roles, they still uphold the myth of male invincibility. I'm not saying we shouldn't challenge any bullshit that crosses our path from any feminist movement, but don't get otherwise allies caught in the cross-fire. Because feminists who identify with that movement due to personal hardship will polarise and align themselves with the fundamental elements, not swing over this way.

I'd like to put this over to the community now, thoughts? What of tact when dealing with issues surrounding feminism or when dealing directly with feminists?