I can't speak for everyone, I can't even speak for everyone that identifies the same as I, however I can speak for myself. I'm a gay man, and I've noticed gay rights activists have went straight out into the deep end of batshit insane, foaming at the mouth and with a great deal of us ending up with skin made of damp tissue paper.
I've seen gay men demand special rights and special treatment and I've seen other gay men use their sexual orientation as a shield to deflect criticism and use an endless stream of appeals to emotion fallacies. I've seen other gay men use being gay as a means to silence opposition and as a means to censor dissenting speech.
It's something I've noticed, even though I'm open about my sexuality, I still get a regular stream of idiots at the ready to call even me a homophobic bigot in an effort to silence me, which is strange in itself but I digress that point.
I want to apologize. Not all gay men are batshit insane, have damp tissue paper for skin and not all of us are blithering fucking idiots. But all the same, I apologize for how shitty and hateful gay people can be.
And yes, you're welcome to call me a fag, fudge packer, homo, etc. My skin's not made of tissue paper.
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Gay man here, and I totally agree. The problem is the feminists co-opted the gay rights movements almost right from the very start. If you're gay, but don't fit into their prescribed idea of what a gay "man" should be, (dress, act, think, support politically, etc.) you're scorned and vilified. The gay community if far more discriminatory of us that we don't fit into their mold than everyone else is. If you're not "gay enough," you're worse than a Bible-thumping Republican in their eyes. I'm sorry, but I'm a man first, and gay second. I hate being introduced as "my gay friend." Why the qualifier? Why can't I just be their friend?! It's no wonder I left the gay community behind years ago. I'd much rather hang out with my straight friends, go to a baseball game, work on my car, or do something "normal" than prance around with glitter on my face and appease the feminists that have taken over the gay rights cause for their own interests. We're pawns in their grand scheme, and the sooner all the gays realize it, the better.
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Gay men are very welcome here.
In many ways, gay men are the penultimate MRAs, though you are right, there are some who do a horribly bad job of it.
Glad to see you here. Bring friends.
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To be fair, there's a good chance we homos are overrepresented among men's rights advocates, too. A species that's peculiarly affected by sexist laws and attitudes is probably more likely to take an interest in one side and/or the other of the issue (or to try to reconcile disparate positions to whatever extent possible).
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I don't know about proper studies/surveys but I wasn't meaning to sound like I was guessing. I thought I'd remembered learning that the overlap between subscribers to this sub and lgbt subs is higher than it would be expected to be if there were only as large a proportion as in the general population. There are also a ton of gay AVFM contributors.
EDIT: Too lazy to search for that(/those) source(s) now though.
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Tell me about it. I disagree with my fellow homos way more often than I agree with them, but the real difference is I try to say, "Look, that's not how freedom of association works," or something reasonable like that (like in the case of the pizza shop owners), rather than making retarded emotional arguments about how only </=5% of the population are the only people who "get to" have opinions on certain things because those things are "matters of life and death for me. [Collapses on fainting couch while clutching at freshly-laid pearl necklace]." Fucking idiots. We're supposed to be more intelligent than the gen. pop., not these anti-intellectual parodies of grievance mongers!
Anyway. Gay is a political identity. I'm a homo. Let's start something new!
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