Misandrist double binds - calling a man misogynist for waiting for "enthusiastic consent" and also ignoring his lack of consent.

Faryshta · 2013-08-14T17:03:37+00:00

Anything short of enthusiastic consent is rape

Enthusiastic consent is mysogyny

StarsDie · 2013-08-14T17:50:24+00:00

Someone who feels entitled to sex wouldn't give a shit about how the person felt before having sex with them.

It doesn't make any damn sense to claim he feels entitled to sex when he turns sex down. That's about as dumb as it can possibly get.

dalsgaard · 2013-08-14T20:46:48+00:00

Wow. My head hurts after following that logic, but he's absolutely right.

So they call him Nice Guy^TM but fail to realize that he did exactly the opposite of what a nice guy is supposed to do. They actually went straight ahead and SHAMED him for not getting enthusiastic consent.

If this comic and its interpretation shows anything, it's that men will NEVER be able to do anything right in the eyes of these lunatics. Also, men are supposed to read minds and whatever the fuck else.

The entitlement that these women have is just through the fucking roof.

giegerwasright · 2013-08-14T18:57:26+00:00

I find the comments disturbing. I understand this guy's delimma. He's at least as worried about his own safety as he is about hers. There has been a precedent set for women changing their mind after the fact and then ruining the guy's life. Feminists do run around shouting that when an equally intoxicated man and woman engage in sexual activity that that man is raping that woman. Let alone if she is more intoxicated. So, the guy's already been shown the beating stick that awaits him should he misstep on that path.

Choosing to go without? Well, you'll be shamed by men and accused of being a devious "nice guy" by women, but you aren't going to jail. Nor are you losing your job or being expelled from school by a kangaroo court. The carrot, in this case, isn't worth the stick.

I really can't stand the way people conflate being considerate and considering the repercussions of one's actions with being a manipulative pandering sociopath. The two are not the same, and you will find more men of the latter among the feminist camp.

saint2e · 2013-08-14T17:13:00+00:00

Seems like that character didn't feel comfortable sleeping with her, especially considering she said in a previous strip something along the lines of "let's do this before I change my mind".

Dude got out of Dodge, and that's probably wise. Who knows if a day/week/month/year/decade later the girl convinces herself that it was rape and charges him.

Smart dude.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-08-14T19:38:52+00:00

Feminists say we should know better than her, irony or?

2013-08-14T19:39:25+00:00

I think people might need a refresher on the idea of enthusiastic consent if saying "I'm on the top, you're on the bottom" while taking their clothes off doesn't qualify.

individualistman · 2013-08-14T20:33:17+00:00

It sounds like this comic was written by some guy who realizes on some level that the way men are currently treated is wrong (Specifically, the whole "wanting sex means you're a misogynist" thing), but hasn't yet broken free from this idea that men ALWAYS want sex, and if a man says no, it's just because he's a pussy.

2013-08-15T13:14:19+00:00

Lesbian separatist feminists are hellbent on destroying relations between men and women.

And spiteful unattractive women are helping them do it.

Hamakua · 2013-08-14T18:51:25+00:00

Just because you put this idiocy in easily consumed comic form does not make it correct, logical, or entertaining.

MechPlasma · 2013-08-15T09:52:14+00:00

The one thing I disagree with is that it's David Willis's opinion. Joe (the black guy) has *never been any kind of author stand-in. He's always just been the character that thinks there's no such thing as bad sex.

Those commentators' responses are still real though. Kinda surprised to see Plasma Mongoose though. I don't remember her falling for that nonsense before.

*Er, grey guy. Why... why is he grey?

kmmeerts · 2013-08-14T21:31:46+00:00

Look at that, David Willis. I stopped reading his comics long ago.

Title	Misandrist double binds - calling a man misogynist for waiting for "enthusiastic consent" and also ignoring his lack of consent.
Author	blueoak9
Upvotes	61
Comments	51
Date	August 14, 2013 3:53 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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