Prominent rape victims advocate doesn't want false rape accusers prosecuted

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-04T13:56:24+00:00

Ahem...

"We are working with three [rape accusers] facing criminal charges. Several others were prosecuted for harassment after their rapists made counter allegations and were believed."

What a terrrific quote. The guy is STILL a rapist to this jerk. But then, all sex is rape.

forechanrefugee · 2013-03-04T14:25:59+00:00

someone really should stand up and call this what it is : Emotional Terrorism. They run around letting the accusations fly, whip up rape culture hysteria and if found to be lying, Actually get defended?

I believe this is synonymous with yelling 'Fire' in a theater. The only different is that, instead of people - it's men's rights that are tramped in the stampede.

DerpaNerb · 2013-03-04T17:08:22+00:00

I really don't get what the fuck is up with these assholes.

I mean, I could totally understand arguments for protecting "accused false rape accusers", and I think we would agree, much in the same way we think people accused of rape should not have their rights diminished.

I even understand some of this stuff about rape shield laws to protect the accuser (though I do disagree, but I can see how they think they have good intentions).

But what I don't get is why all of these fucking people want to protect PROVEN false rape accusers.

They intentionally crafted a malicious lie to try and completely fucking destroy someones life. Completely ignoring the reputation side of things.. what's the difference between me going out and kidnapping someone and locking him in my basement with a few guys who will potentially rape him and/or assault him... and ... me lying to get the government to do it for me.

People protecting proven false accusers just show how ridiculously hateful they are.

salient_punt · 2013-03-04T13:28:44+00:00

Duh. You have to make victim self-declaration free and easy, that's how you boost your numbers and get your government dollars.

Nomenimion · 2013-03-04T22:16:23+00:00

"It's a witch hunt!" -- says the witchhunter. The hypocrisy of this "feminist" is astounding.

Altiondsols · 2013-03-04T23:36:54+00:00

You know, perjury suddenly isn't a crime when it's about rape.

jack_gats · 2013-03-04T13:36:39+00:00

And if you click the link provided in the first sentence you get the Guardian article. Hint: you do not need to read the article, just look at the pic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/04/police-behaviour-sex-attacks-women-change

Elementary my dear Goebbels!

ThePigman · 2013-03-05T01:46:57+00:00

"Prominent rape victims advocate doesn't want false rape accusers prosecuted"

There's a headline i thought i would never read!

blueoak9 · 2013-03-04T17:16:44+00:00

I'd be curious to know if Longstaff is herself a rape victim or just another opportunist using rape victims to further her on man-hating agenda.

"Longstaff claims that "the prosecution of women and the disproportionate media coverage they get are putting rape victims off reporting and leaving all of us more vulnerable to attack."

Disporportionate how? Certainly not disproportionate relative to the histrical wall of silence around false rape accusations.

2013-03-04T16:30:58+00:00

Surprise!

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-04T20:53:53+00:00

I really can't see how Longstaff's piece gets us anywhere. She assumes that alleged false rape accusers are innocent without any support. Everything else operates under this headline assumption. Those who doubt this tendentious assumption are left without an argument for not prosecuting false accusers.

Modron · 2013-03-04T16:56:10+00:00

I'm on the fence with regards this one. On the one hand, people who make false rape allegations should be charged for perverting the course of justice. On the other hand, what if a person is legitimately raped, but is discredited in court? It could lead to genuine victims being criminalised. I mean, what country is this... Congo? (Where male rape victims are arrested for homosexual acts). Also, it could stop genuine victims from coming forward for the fear of a criminal record of their case fails in court. I read [this old article] (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/inside-story-when-man-rapes-man-victims-darent-report-it-the-law-wont-recognise-it-the-public-cant-understand-it-but-gradually-the-taboos-around-male-rape-are-breaking-down-reports-simon-garfield-1561882.html) earlier about male rape victims, and it turns out men (allegedly) make false allegations too... Or maybe it wasn't a false allegation. Perhaps he genuinely was raped, but that the police did not believe him? If the allegation was genuine, would it be fair that he would then be arrested and charged for being a real victim who the police refused to believe?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-03-05T14:49:12+00:00

Further, victims who retract allegations can face prosecution

So according to feminists false rape allegations are so rare we shouldn't even discuss them (despite mountains of evidence to the contrary). However, legitimate rape accusations being labeled false then successfully prosecuted are a daily occurrence and we should be terribly concerned with this widespread phenomenon that if you look at the evidence really never happens?

We have been campaigning against the prosecution of women who report rape.

Nice wording.

Yes, we're going to start arresting women who report rapes. Not ones who report it fraudulently. Just any report.

He responded with guidance: the CPS should not prosecute women with mental illness, girls under 18 or victims of domestic violence. But he refused to acknowledge that negligent and biased investigations can result in jail for rape victims rather than rapists.

It is impossible for women to falsely accuse anyone. Therefore any accuser who is penalized for lying is in fact innocent and her rapist has gone free.

chavelah · 2013-03-04T23:21:42+00:00

Provably false rape accusations should be prosecuted with vigor.

But provable false allegations are about as rare as provable rape.

We are over-prosecuting massively in this arena. Adding another category of over-prosecution doesn't help anybody.

Title	Prominent rape victims advocate doesn't want false rape accusers prosecuted
Author	PierceHarlan
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Date	March 4, 2013 12:39 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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