Why do so many women hate men?

Felarhin · 2023-08-02T03:39:43+00:00

Media propaganda, you're spot on. The thing that I hate most is how it feels almost impossible to have any calm and rational discussion about anything. Whoever designed this sort of ideology really seems to know what they're doing because it's really effective. It's incredible to watch the most powerful country in history rot from within because of subliminal messaging on television shows and social media.

FaithlessnessNo2495 · 2023-08-02T00:00:38+00:00

Imo I noticed that’s it’s mostly insecure, hateful, narcissistic, entitled, and angry women who identify as “feminist”. I think it’s because a lot of these women definitely do not meet typical female beauty standards so they lash out at society (specifically men) and blame them for their insecurities and standards that they created themselves. If you take a big look at feminists they really are not so different from incels.

Feminist spaces are mostly echo chambers so it’s really easy to plague other women’s minds with the hating men rhetoric.

Tiny_Professional358 · 2023-08-02T01:36:12+00:00

Because society in first world countries has come to the point where the popular belief is “men bad no matter what” it doesn’t help that colleges also influence this kind of behavior.

Sunset1918 · 2023-08-02T03:40:56+00:00

Women love movies like TITANIC, where spoiled brat Rose had the chance to have a wealthy guy but instead wanted a poor, homeless kid. Women watch those movies and think that's what they're supposed to want.

Women are cliqueish and follow the crowd. That's why even though I'm a woman, most of my friends are men. I'm also 64 which helps too. My husband and I have been happily married for 40 years too, then again I'm not a feminist so....

PlzSendDunes · 2023-08-01T23:45:07+00:00

Yes. It's a feminist indoctrination. It provides a very convenient idealogy with all the fancy words like "patriarchy", "mansplaining", "manspreading" or "toxic masculinity". All of those tools allow to dismiss, blame and justify anything against men. Too cold in office? Sexism. Someone dared to criticise a woman or pinpoint innacuracy in logic or provided factual data? His opinion doesn't matter, he is an incel. It provides amazing ability to use bullying tactics beyond school into the elderly years. Vilify and demonise men.

The only thing you can do is to avoid such women and men who support them. Most of them are not willing to see the damage they are doing and all you can do is mitigate liabilities from such personas.

Stay safe.

plumberack · 2023-08-02T06:34:43+00:00

In-group bias and us vs men tribal mentality.

Gonzalo_96 · 2023-08-02T07:54:45+00:00

Look on the bright side, it's easier than ever to know if a girl is a bitch and reject her fast.

BlindNowhereMan · 2023-08-02T11:33:45+00:00

For the same reason so many men hate women - constant and consistent rejection and betrayal.

The diff is, in our current climate, they are being told its ok. While men are (correctly) told hating on women is not

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2023-08-02T00:30:21+00:00

All media is propaganda and feminist propaganda sells. So don't consume it. You have to take responsibility. I only watch one news show on tv and visit this site. I pay no attention to their propaganda. I've heard it all before. They just rename everything every 5 years and have a new crisis.

But social media like twitter, facebook and the rest or reddit is damaging to listen to for too long. That's a feature, not a bug.

LostActor0921 · 2023-08-02T02:23:47+00:00

Because women are social creatures. They would rather go along with a delusion than stand aside. Once hating Men became popular with more than 20% of women, it became a popular trend. This, we have women despising men and they don't know why. Just repeating Ideological slogans with no reason.

UWontHearMeAnyway · 2023-08-02T03:23:13+00:00

Rhetoric, mixed with the fact that women are naturally more susceptible to suggestion. Feminist agendas are everywhere. From early on, it's on every TV show or movie. Go to school, and it's in classrooms. In college, it's pushed like an aggressive religion. Groups form, to shove the Rhetoric into women's faces. Billionaires are literally pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into feeding the narrative.

An object in motion will stay in motion, or an object at rest will stay at rest, until acted upon by a positive net force.

Who is correcting their Rhetoric in as much force as pushing it? Who is correcting their behaviors? Laws are drastically in favor of women. Law enforcement flock to help them, even when they're wrong.

So, the boulder speeds up, charges ahead, into the hill of hatred. While being virtually unopposed.

ElisaSKy · 2023-08-01T23:49:46+00:00

I can't answer for women, or even for a single woman, given that I'm not one. But as a formerly self-hating male, I have an answer anyways, that applies specifically to myself.

A large part of it was all the lies I was told and was too naïve to believe about men just being more violent and abusive and prone to rape. And then I saw the actual stats and definitions.

ImOverIt0011 · 2023-08-02T11:15:51+00:00

I honestly think it's getting worse because men are just getting more avoidant.

At a certain point it's really clear that a lot of these women just want attention and to make men look bad to make themselves feel better.

The more you ignore them the less they can use you to prop up their victim complex and inevitably they collapse.

There's plenty of attractive kind women in the world too. Just have to divide your attention accordingly.

Wonderful_Working315 · 2023-08-02T01:03:38+00:00

Envy is a hell of a drug

TrilIias · 2023-08-02T03:53:57+00:00

Personally, I was black pilled long ago. Most women are very comfortable in resenting and despising men, and most men would rather defend themselves than men as a whole, because they don't think men in general are worth defending.

I don't think it's ever going to get better, I think the damage is done and injustice will win, and that's the optimistic outcome. The pessimistic outcome is that an attempt at justice is made and it tears society to shreds.

Honestly, I don't know why I'm not depressed or demoralized even after having been black-pilled. I think a big part of it is that I'm at peace knowing that I can't be blamed for the injustice that is taking place, and no one can say I didn't try to talk some sense into some people. As maddening as it is that men will probably always face such severe injustice, I'd rather face it than inflict it. It also helps that I'm gay and can kinda escape it, RIP to all the straight guys here.

KneeDeepThought · 2023-08-02T11:53:02+00:00

Anti-male rhetoric is profitable. Women control 78% of discretionary spending and advertisers capture their attention and money by chanting "men suck! buy our stuff!" It's working remarkably well and now the constant messaging in all print and broadcast media has created a feedback loop where every woman is trying to outdo the next with their victim narratives and outright hatred to prove they're better than everyone else.

Wakka_Grand_Wizard · 2023-08-02T13:43:45+00:00

It’s amusing how I’ve seen a lot of “treat women like human” and yet men are essentially told “be confident bro, go to therapy bro”

Cecarrilloa · 2023-08-02T00:55:27+00:00

IMO I feel like it’s an accountability issue, instead of admitting their shitty taste in men they categorize us all in the same category.

Ftpiercecracker1 · 2023-08-02T04:05:45+00:00

Women hate men because they have been told to hate men by their female professors and pop culture icons.

The female hive mind is very real even if it might not be quite as full on "borg" like, thank God, as some make it seem.

Fragmented79 · 2023-08-02T02:35:30+00:00

A lot of the man haters are being hired in Hollywood as writers, directors, actors, etc in the wake of #metoo. The movies and shows that come out from them (as well as anti men social media posts) condition more girls and women to join in the misandry bandwagon. ETA: also wanted to add: Not all high profile feminists are unattractive. Chelsea Handler is one. She gave several absurd man hating monologues when she hosted Jimmy Cuckmel’s show after the overturning of Roe v Wade.

pappo4ever · 2023-08-02T04:49:06+00:00

Women are easily manipulable and never think for themselves, but only think what the group think.

They were the target of the feminst psyop and they 100% fell for it. Now they are in a position where they need men but hate them at the same time. A whole generation of women will die alone.

another-cosplaytriot · 2023-08-02T12:21:59+00:00

More often than not, it's not the case that women have had bad experiences with men, it's that the experiences with men that they've had did not meet their unreasonable expectations.

They have convinced themselves that they deserve more than what they got because that's just something narcissists do. And that's what they are: attention-seeking self-absorbed social-media-raised narcissists.

Man-splain · 2023-08-02T12:50:22+00:00

Probably because they are fighting their inherent knowledge that they need men because they are less capable of most things in general and especially in comparison to men. They want the benefits of being responsible and capable without the accountability that it takes to get and be there.

HanEyeAm · 2023-08-02T13:34:53+00:00

So I think I need to take a break off social media.

It sounds like it.

Folks need to consider that people want to be heard. Social media allows you to shout your feelings and thoughts from the rooftops to anyone listening. So social media represents those on the roof tops more than the typical bustling townsfolk. Spend less time on social media and more time with Real People.

Continue to do the good work of exposing misandry but do it from a place of passion and being helpful, not driven by anger or fear.

I understand some women have bad experiences with men, which can cause them to be resentful towards men as a whole.

Sit in that first part for a while. That is true and not something to be dismissed quickly. Building up empathy will help moderate your anger/exasperation.

But seeing so many women aiming to attack and degrade men is quite alarming.

You can't change their behavior easily, certainly not on reddit. Release yourself from the responsibility. If you get attacked in person, by a real person, then defend. Share with people in your circles how misandry makes you feel to build understanding and their empathy for you.

They completely disregard all the amazing things men have done.

You can't control that so don't worry about it. Be the positive influence in someone's life, do good things for your community. That's a way to change the minds of those who matter and the good vibes radiate out to others. And you sleep better at night, too.

Spare_Development615 · 2023-08-02T14:56:50+00:00

According to men at the top, the men at the bottom are the enemy.

So they create propaganda and feminist psyops to demoralize them and sow division and hatred.

PrecisionGuessWerk · 2023-08-02T15:32:24+00:00

yeah, you need to get off social media for a while. Social media is fucking great at producing echo chambers. You can easily find hordes of angry women. And since you see thousands of them you think its "so many" but they truly are a small minority. How often have you met such radical women in real life?

I noticed it was affecting my view on the subject too. Echo chambers are powerful.

L0cked4fun · 2023-08-02T07:29:43+00:00

Society says it's OK to lump all men together and blame us all for one person's mistakes. So women who have had bad experiences with one or a few men just assume we are all the same.

knight_call1986 · 2023-08-02T12:52:01+00:00

Okay this is about to be a long one, so I apologize in advance.

What I have learned in my 37 years of living is that there is a need to shift blame to someone. I don't say it is all women or feminists who feel this way, but I will say from my own personal relationships with women (romantic, platonic, professional) there seems to be the constant theme of "not my fault".

The thing that the women who speak this mess have to understand is that they can only speak on the men they have dealt with in life. They can't put what the men that they chose did to them on other men who have nothing to do with any of that. If any of you guys are actively dating you will see it clear as day. You meet a woman, things seem to be going well. She is smart, nice, etc. But then you learn that all the men she has dealt with are abusers and narcissists. There is never a mention of what they could have done better, other than some horse shit like "I loved too much". But when it comes down to it, those are the men that they chose to deal with.

So there has to be some accountability because you chose this man out of all the others to be vulnerable with, and chose to stay when things weren't going well. But here is the kicker, most women I have met admitted that they knew the guy was no good going into it, but he was cute and had potential. Deep down they know they are playing and doing what feels good, but what isn't actually good for them. That is why I say "It only takes one man to ruin an army of women, but it takes one woman to destroy an empire." The "one man" in this sense is the "Chad/Tyrone" types walking around that women keep giving chance after chance to. When they are finally tired of the mess, they expect John the trucker or Bill the accountant to swoop in a pick up the pieces. Because they know their worth now.

This is something that has been pushed through the media like crazy. Shit look at Sex and the City, and how awfully that show aged. The whole premise was a very average woman thinking she is a 10 going for a 1%er the majority of the show, only to get smashed and clowned each season. But she still wanted ol boy after getting clowned over and over. And the red head goofy chick, stayed shitting on her husband, only to divorce homie after like 15 years because she is gay now. Like stop with the goofy bs. They got some of these women out here just looking crazy to me. But that definitely helped some women adopt that mindset and think they are all just some quirky successful woman who just can't find love because men = bad.

Basically what we are seeing now is when we let things just keep going unchecked. It was funny and silly at first, but now it has become so blatant that they don't even try to hide it. Essentially the women who made bad decision after bad decision, don't like that their free will of choice comes with consequences. So we have people in power trying to make equal opportunity also equate to equal outcomes for certain groups. But I see it starting to backfire in some instances, and it is coming from the women who actually like the arrangement of building their family. There are a few women I know who are over the whole "boss babe" thing and don't really want to work like that. Some are seeing that the media was lying and that men don't have nearly as many privileges as they claim (especially the average every day man).

TLDR;

The women/feminists who claim to hate men, really hate the choices they made and hate that they played a role in where they didn't want to be in life. They know they help contribute to a system that really is oppressive to a certain group, but they have been the victim so long, that the benefits that have come with it (careers, education, financials) are not worth giving up even if they are no longer victims. So its a very elaborate and long winded way for certain people to avoid accountability for their actions. So certain groups rather change the entire world around them than look inside and change themselves for the better.

EDIT:

The way I look at having a progressive discussion with the extreme feminists is the same way I view having a discussion with racists. They both know that racism/sexism exist, but pretend unless someone is an Klan member, Skinhead or an admitted rapist then it doesn't exist. They totally ignore that there are more situations that are covert that are going on because if they look at what is really going on then their whole argument begins to crumble.

I have talked to many women (even family) about things I have dealt with from women, and I always got the same answer "well it must be the type of women you are dealing with because I am not like that." And fall back on level 1 of their blame shifting flow chart.

Remember there are 5 levels of the cornball girl blame shifting kit.

"I am not like that, it must be the women you are choosing."
"why are you so angry?"
"You must hate women."
"You must be gay."
"It was just a joke, someone is sensitive."

Dingle_McCringle · 2023-08-02T13:28:02+00:00

I think it's part of a larger design. Its Feminism in bed with the Patriarchy.

The powers that be want to get rid of as many men as so theres no one to oppose them as they impose more control. They've just injected corporate feminism into everything you see, while deputizing our women to tell us we're not good enough. It's like what they can't do to you in court or at work, they've tricked your wife into emotionally damaging you at home and in society.

Women get off on being mean, and tear each other down for fun. This is the only thing that brings them together. And they're having so much fun, they will not stop. And let's face it, penis envy.

We've done everything for them, so they have zero appreciation, and since we keep drooling over them online, we just fuel our own demise.

Outside of their specialized job, the avg American man knows more about sports than they do anything else. That is absolutely by design. It's like the Colosseum all over again. We just work, chase women, and watch sports to pass time.

They've kept us thrown off the scent, in debt, anesthetized with porn, and chasing women, that to win, we must give money to. Thats same ruling class will also castrate you when she decides to clean you out.

Every single major society has had working class men, revolt against the ruling class.

And women don't care, they've always been hypergamists.The reason they hate us is cause they haven't been able to trap one yet. The second the patriarchy benefits them w a rich dad or husband, silence.

Ok-Preference9776 · 2023-08-02T16:15:09+00:00

Western propaganda and culture since the last few decades.

hotpotato138 · 2023-08-02T19:55:59+00:00

I like the idea of getting off of social media. A loud minority of misandrists are here. I doubt most women in reality hate men.

RobertMugsby89 · 2023-08-02T19:57:57+00:00

They feel entitled, they are always the victim, being a whore is now looked upon as being brave and independent. The powers at be are actively turning men into pathetic CUCKS because without strong men no one will stand up to them. (They have also been destroying the nuclear family for ages).

mrmensplights · 2023-08-03T00:31:59+00:00

Ideology and propaganda, mixed with a massive in-group bias, heightened anxiety and insecurity, mixed the genuine conflict both genders feel for each other.

Nothing to do with bad experiences. Hate doesn't need to be based on real experiences. Hate can instilled through conditioning. Social media provides the perfect funnel; you flip through content like pulling a handle on a slot machine, there is a random reward schedule, and you use the system to reinforce the belief.

I also feel like there is some deep collective angst among women in modern society. Some need to goad and poke and prod to get a reaction. To get the men to change the world. If you've been in a long term relationship you know this pattern.

The way I see it men have been a massive help in women becoming empowered. Only for a large proportion of these women to turn around and look to attack, degrade and tear men down any chance they get.

That's the funny thing. I really believe most men don't even care if women have it better than them. It's the constant hate and vitriol men receive along with the gaslighting about their privileged position when it's obvious that women have it far easier that is hard to bear.

Frird2008 · 2023-08-02T01:09:51+00:00

Two words:

Elite Propaganda

Windiigo · 2023-08-02T07:44:05+00:00

Personally, I was R*ped when I was younger. It's easy to hate a group of people of which one has severely hurt you. And the media and such propagate this way of thinking by the 'yesallmen' and 'metoo' movements. I was told almost all women had suffered as me because of men. So I believed men to be at fault. Things like getting catcalled also don't help, because if you've been traumatised like I was you can get triggered from such things and think 'see, they're all after me'.

But it's just not true! I don't know if women truly are abused so much as Feminists say. It certainly seems unlikely, as most women still seem content to live their lives leaning on men for support and provision.

And after I delved into the mens right movement looking for arguments to shoot men down, I found the opposite. Men are worse off overall then women.

Superyoshikong · 2023-08-02T06:14:54+00:00

From what I've seen, it's mainly white femcels complaining about "objectifying" & oversexualization (a minor issue compared to actual assault/harassment) and exmuslims that actually lived in places where feminism is desperately needed.

Gambit275 · 2023-08-02T06:47:11+00:00

my grandma once said "men can go to hell" she's been through a lot but that was still unacceptable

chortle-guffaw · 2023-08-02T13:07:53+00:00

Man haters are attracted to sites that validate their opinions. If you read their garbage, you'll think every woman is like this. It's like sitting under a porch light. You'll think every bug is a moth.

Plus, the internet is dominated by victimhood status. You can twist just about anything into being a victim. Man holds a door open for you? He's not being courteous, he's a misogynist. Man doesn't hold the door open for you? He's an a-hole. Either way, she's the victim.

Enigmatic93 · 2023-08-02T15:30:08+00:00

I want to leave the west so bad bro.

Even when I'm minding my own business, I'm noticing that women, particularly the younger, under 25 generation, are going out of their way to let me know that they dislike me for some reason. I can't help but notice the hostile body language they have towards me just for existing near them. Feminism has gotten more radical since the pandemic.

lilosaurusrex · 2023-08-02T18:52:04+00:00

I can’t stop laughing at this one

Lonewolf_087 · 2023-08-02T07:43:22+00:00

Like anything there are varying degrees of disgust. But I think part of it is some men have been bad to them and it propagates this self feeding machine where other women start to talk about what happens to each other and over time it develops into this sort of monster. It's like the gossip wheel just makes unpleasant experiences seem like the norm rather than the exception. Then it starts spreading around and suddenly a few bad men made an entire gender look like villains. I'll tell you one thing a woman feeds off of her friends. I honestly believe if women were a bit more isolated and cut off from the toxicity of the tea club they would actually be a lot kinder, more empathetic, etc. So I believe a very large percentage of women are born amazing with big hearts and a notion of care but western society poisons them and puts these terrible things in their heads. If you hear it enough, it must be true! I want to go back to the days when woman would honor their relationships with men and consider them a blessing and not a callous and lustful pursuit; that they are entitled to have any man they want, etc. Again all of this comes from what's been pushed into women's heads almost from birth. Instead of being taught how to thrive under pressure, how to be truly independent and self respecting, and how to have manners and be people of respect and ethics, and to understand how things are earned not given, instead society gives them a gold key by default and trains them in the name of spite, envy, lust, and self absorbance. Men on the other hand are held to a much higher and more strict standard. They are expected to do so much and any side remarks or notions of dissatisfaction are not to be tolerated.

I know there are a fair deal of people in here that are not religious or atheist, I respect you. But I want to point out one thing in my religion that was a cornerstone to the better days of old and it was the notion of respect. That a man was to do good work hard and respect his woman and that a woman was to make good on that man's efforts. It had nothing to do about what he wants or she wants it had to do with what the other person needs. When we stop seeing ourselves and we see the needs of other people, that is when things go better. But these days selfishness defeats hope. People have been shown and told that the only thing that matters is them and that is how we all start to fall apart.

Qwerty5105 · 2023-08-02T11:51:15+00:00

I wouldn’t generalize it. There are people that hurt men as a whole without trying to. Like you said lots of women have bad experiences with men. Some women act on that. Some don’t. What are us men going to do when we have been wronged? We have got to speak up about our issues but still treat the ones who wronged us with respect. That’s the only way we will get progress on these issues.

Anih1list · 2023-08-02T19:52:24+00:00

I actually think the Barbie Movie speaks more about male struggle than regular pop-feminist girlboss bullshit. I still refuse to see it because it did a bad job portraying men’s rights, but a “kill all men” film it was not.

MissDaphneAlice · 2023-08-02T20:23:39+00:00

"Some men are bad to women and women blame all men."

Yes, but some women are bad to men but a man must never say "women suck."

Women are bad to women. Men are bad to men.

There is no moral high ground and many here still seem to be conditioned to believe there is.

Hurt people hurt people.

National_Yoghurt1700 · 2023-08-02T21:45:47+00:00

I don't know but my ex had a violent dad and was raped by a photographer. I tried to feel compassion towards her but she was unable to act responsibly.

Title	Why do so many women hate men?
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