about average men

Marino4K · 2023-01-04T01:52:24+00:00

Any woman/person that says (non-jokingly/ironically) "men are trash" "men are children" "the bar is too low" etc. is a shitty person with issues they need to work through.

Preme2 · 2023-01-04T02:23:25+00:00

What women say and what they do are two completely different things.

Women: “Nobody wants me”

Meanwhile: 100+ dms begging for a chance.

The bare minimum is higher than you think.

Regular men can struggle and I think they have it the worse. The market has more impact than individuality. Meaning you can be the best subway sandwich maker on the planet and you’re still getting minimum wage. Alright maybe they’ll toss you an extra nickel an hour but nothing more.

As long as long as the average Becky chad chasers continue to chase, you’ll be the one without while everyone else pairs off.

Steakman1 · 2023-01-04T01:26:29+00:00

regular men don’t struggle at dating (or not more than anyone else)

You could argue that for a lot of men’s struggles it’s of their own doing. But the idea of them not struggling more than anyone else simply isn’t true. I think the struggles of maintaining an existing relationship is similar of all men. But getting women interested in you is a much bigger struggle for some men than others.

For example, the video is obviously satirical but shows what an obviously good looking dude can get away with that regular guy’s can’t.

For those who don’t want to watch the video, it’s a good looking guy making a tinder profile and asking his subscribers to send him cringey pickup lines to use on his matches. Also worth noting that he put his height as 6’3” in his bio which he isn’t actually. Now we don’t know how many matches he got and how many women never responded. But I think it’s pretty obvious that:

An average guy definitely wouldn’t get as many matches.
An average guy wouldn’t be getting responses from one liners like that.

Now this doesn’t mean that the women would’ve ever met up with him. But it does mean that physically attractive people are able to get away with more before being disqualified completely. A guy like that at least has the opportunity to make up for it whereas a regular guy would’ve been disqualified on the spot in basically all cases.

HazyMemory7 · 2023-01-04T01:26:08+00:00

Answer this then: why does this subreddit exist and why has the RP community on social media exploded over the last 2 years?

Even if you think its just scam artists fooling men, people have to identify with and relate to something for there to be a market for it.

CringeButCorrect · 2023-01-04T02:02:21+00:00

Average (in every category) and non-obese men struggle with getting attraction from average non-obese women. They have average social skills, meaning they have male and female platonic friends. They make average money, which is ~50k a year. They're average height (5'7" to 5'9") and have average, unremarkable faces.

They can get into relationships, but it is significantly hard for them than it is for their female counterparts, and very difficult in general. The idea that average dudes (non-obese) can get into relationships easily is just false. But difficult doesn't mean impossible, and many of them have 1-2 LTRs by 35.

Ohyarlysmiles · 2023-01-04T03:29:44+00:00

(1) Regular as defined by her

(2) Most men she associates with are trash.

Helped you out, boyo

kokokimoo · 2023-01-04T01:57:06+00:00

I think regular man can struggle with dating and those reasons can vary based on age/location/the individual/options/etc.

Most of the women who say that kind of stuff are younger or just plain dumb. It’s really annoying and frustrating and I hate that I kinda have to agree with the RP men on this one that women “reward” that behavior by overlooking it.

I see it all the time amongst my generation (Z). Girl cries and complains her bf doesn’t listen or care, neglects her feelings, only does things on his time, she has to basically beg him to be nice…and yet she stays with him and does everything he wants and more? If you tell her to leave him or ask why she is still with him, most likely she’ll either backtrack and hype him up or will accuse you of victim blaming her and not sympathizing.

And some of the guys women do date are TRASH but these women continue to put up with it because the guy is hot/exciting/rich/whatever. The bar is where you set it, stop fucking & dating men who treat you like shit. Or at the very least, stop complaining about it if you recognize the shitty treatment and chose to continue dealing with it.

PrimaryJellyfish8904 · 2023-01-04T01:57:45+00:00

If we accept such premisses the corollary would be that the women dating those very toxic and immature men (modern women proclaim to value "emotional maturity" above all else when it comes to men) are very unhappy and living sorrow lives but have to endure due to "comphet" or some other feminist narrative.

John_Oakman · 2023-01-04T01:24:55+00:00

The implication is that the average male is a colossal piece of shit but women are pressured into relationships so much that they'll tolerate such massive pieces of shit (at least in the short term). Thus in theory both statements can be true without contradicting each other.

Usual-Leopard-9102 · 2023-01-04T09:35:56+00:00

The problem is the "regular men" is actually the Elite the 10% when women talk about him. So it seems like a contradiction but in actuality women are just not realistic.

In Germany the regular men is a fat alcoholic that only know about his football team and is coroscending aggresive and then starts to cry in the next moment lol. But women dont mean this when they say a regular men.

Do i expect from a women to date someone like that? No! But i expect women to be realistic. The friendly clean fit guy that can beheave well and is even a bit eloquent isnt the regular guy.

obviousredflag · 2023-01-04T13:27:33+00:00

You are in a place for people struggling with dating. What do you expect your answer to be?

MistyMaisel · 2023-01-04T01:55:26+00:00

I dated or entertained several men I knew were uh, trashish or immature and not up to the bare-minimum thinking I could change them or mature them. I saw them as fixer-uppers. If you repaint, knock out several walls, put in a kitchen-island, and some good mood lighting, they'd be a pretty good thing. Then I got older, and realized I was too tired to keep renovating homes that were treating me like a cute pet.

So no, I don't really see a contradiction between thinking most men aren't meeting the bare minimum is the same as saying they'll never date. It's just not a surprise their relationships fall apart so much.

LupeDyCazari · 2023-01-04T03:27:46+00:00

Yeah. you do realize that most men are in romantic relationships, or have been, or will be in romantic relationships one day, right?

regular men aren't swimming in dating options like Koji Seto or mackenu Arata are, but most men do decently enough with women.

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anonnewengland · 2023-01-04T11:54:07+00:00

What numbers are you referring to? The dating app data shows that men have a much harder time at dating than women and men have to go to work for a day or two just to pay for the date, while the women wastes money on disguising her own appearance to try and fool the guy. Just getting one date is 10x harder for a man. Hoe many women even ask a guy out in this modern age of feminism? What's more common, a woman asking a guy out or a woman offering to pay? What percentage of men even get a match?

Women go for above average men, look at the data. Women rate most men as ugly, not average. Women all date the same 10% of men while the majority sit at home, or just get used for dinner and not a relationship. Women date without intention. That's why men don't feel bad about the pump and dump now when they do get laid. It's our middle finger to women like that. Act like a hoe, get treated like one. Consequences.

Name one advantage a man has when they get married in life these days. The cons outweigh the pros for men. It's a giant risk with no real reward with our current selection of partners to choose from. It's more like adoption than marriage. They just want to be supported financially while making tiktoks about how they have their hubby wrapped around their lil finger.

anonnewengland · 2023-01-04T12:06:52+00:00

Women paint themselves up like they are appearing at the Hunger Games after party. Like clowns. Fake hair, fake nails, painted on makeup, clothing that changes how boddy parts are shaped, etc. Men can't even see the woman they are dating until after they sleep with them. Women literally lie to us men with their appearance. The funny thing is that we all see it. We know what filters look like. Don't lie and we won't have so many problems. Also, stop dating the same few men and complaining how they act. You chose them.

Women are the majority. Try taking some responsibility for your actions and for your lives. And men are not responsible for making a woman happy. Emotions come and go. Men are steadfast. If you require a man to make you happy (as in he has the sole responsibility for your mood on a minute to minute basis) you will fail automatically. Marriage is about banding together to raise a family and survive, not about vacations and dates and special parties and presents. You are expected to sacrifice for your children. Many women these days are just spoiled.

M3101997 · 2023-01-04T18:03:12+00:00

I think If you fall Into the category of “a regular guy” you’re going to have a hard time having a good dating life. Especially if you’re out of college or school and in the workforce primarily relying on online dating to meet people.

When I was 21/22 just starting my career It would be nearly impossible to get dates, let alone a second date. I had everything that made a good boyfriend on paper but my looks weren’t the greatest. I had some baby face fat and looked “young”. I jumped on TRT at 22 and by the time I was 24 I looked completely different and more mature. This is also when I broke into fitness modeling and grew a decent size social media following. By then dating was so much easier and I had girls hitting me up all the time. I am now in a long term relationship but I still get dms from girls almost daily on Instagram despite me having pictures of me and my gf on my profile.

You need to be exceptional at something to have a good shot at having a solid dating life. Whether it be: looks, money, status, etc…. IMO across the board women have high and sometimes flat out unrealistic standards

Title	about average men
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