[Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?

sumant28 · 2015-07-29T06:20:14+00:00

In that thread: alpha fux beta bux

In this thread: hamstering

Ultimately, yay for TRP being right about the nature of women! :/

BabaElvis · 2015-07-29T03:19:46+00:00

Asshole gets anal, the love of her life gets to see a tape of it.

Point noted

GoldPisseR · 2015-07-29T02:55:19+00:00

Is making sex tape such a norm now that you don't need to inform your future partners?

Its simple.She did those things because she didn't want Mark to leave him. Mark in no way abused her .Way to prove TRP right.

This young and insecure bullshit is total nonsense.Women are regularly told from puberty that there are assholes out there who'd use and pressure them for sex.

This is why you don't marry.She takes you for granted and becomes too comfortable

meehan666 · 2015-07-29T06:49:17+00:00

What a hilarious story. All that was needed was the couple being Indian/Asian and the ex being a white frat bro and we would be at critical mass.

As usual, marriage proves to be a shitty deal. For men, you aren't getting the woman at her hottest and she isn't giving you her 'A' game in bed. Hell even for women, you aren't getting the hawt guy you really want.

Personally, if I were the guy, I'd feign forgiveness, make the tape (and we'd be fucking the way I want in it), and then kick her to the curb.

redmachines · 2015-07-29T00:54:10+00:00

Yes. AF are generally non productive members of human civilization. They do not create stable family units, they do not create or innovate things to make our lives better (too busy sleeping with anything that has a vagina). Their actual usefulness was expired thousands of years ago. When women are constantly rewarding barbaric and primitive behavior like this, everyone but the state pays the price.

Raiil · 2015-07-29T00:28:25+00:00

To me, it seems that if while BluePill ideology states that sexual experimentation isn’t wrong etc, and a woman is allowed to do w/e she pleases. On an instinctual level at least for men, they feel that it’s wrong or at the very least feel bad for the guy.

My take? No one wants to be perceived as less than by the competition, even if that competitor isn't even competing anymore.

People obsess about being 'better' than the past experiences. 'Do you love me more than her?' 'Am I better in bed than him?' 'Am I prettier/more handsome/make more money/make you laugh more/make you smile more?'

I don't think the woman in the situation is a bad person. I don't think the man is, either. I don't agree with his assertion/reaction, but I can empathise with it, having been cheated on and left kind of paranoid about it. I didn't exactly become a bastion of rational thought in the aftermath, either.

I don't think sexual experimentation is wrong. I think that, so long as everything is done safe, sanely, and with informed consent, having fun with sex is a great thing (barring cheating for what I'm gonna hope is obvious reasons).

As for

Bluepillers often say that TRP focuses on the “worst kind of woman” when they feature stories like this on their subreddit.

I think BPers tend to be talking more about serial cheating asshole McJerkface (etc) women. When you hold up one shithead and try to use them as the standard for AWALT or why you should spin plates, well, it's as factually incorrect and dumb as using one male rapist as the baseline standard for all men, period. There's black, there's white, and in between there's a lot of shades of life to consider.

Dietyz · 2015-07-28T23:52:04+00:00

He would have been in the right if he hadn't of been angry until he saw the video, seeing that she was more responsive to her ex than to him

However he was mad when he was gaining everything she had given to her ex which isn't really af/bb, they were going to be equals before he saw the video

I guess you could call it AF/BB because the husband already knew the ex and he probably knew that the ex had a higher SMV so he was preemptively angry but we cannot know that for sure, only the husband knows. And even then we only know his perception not the truth of the way his girl perceives him

If I had to take a guess, the husband already felt threatened by the ex so he was trying to create new experiences to prove to himself that he is perceived the way his girl says she perceives him. And when he found out she already made a sex tape his effort was futile and has become emotionally abused(not on purpose but still so) and put into a position of doubt of their relationship

The backlash is pretty bad in that thread, don't women say they want men to reveal their emotions? Yeah It doesn't look like its turning out very well for that dude

bones_and_love · 2015-07-29T06:09:09+00:00

Men and women both cheat. Cheating is easier if you've had 50 partners. "beta bux" stories with losers dating party sluts who cheat on them is not a tendency of women... it's a tendency of a loser... dating... yeah a party slut. I'm not sure how this is even complicated. TRP are just a bunch of conspiracy nut jobs. Yes, a slut who is mildly attrato an unfit dude with a bit of money will grow bored of the relationship and fuck someone else with a good enough risk to be conscious of it. Solutions are simple -- date someone who isn't a party slut or get better looking/more dominant.

Alpha fucks is also stupid. Yes, women like to fuck hot men. I'm not even sure anyone is debating this (?).

Women want a hot man with money and social skills. There isn't a fucking theory needed to understand that. She also wants someone who can satisfy her sexually. That's also not rocket science.

As for the story, she isn't "wrong". She's just dating a guy who fucks like a pussy. He can't blame anyone but himself. He's in the cockpit and needs to take ownership over his inability to please her. Go workout, read some guides, practice, try new things, etc.

If he isn't satisfied with her sexually, that's what we call a partnership with sexual incompatibility. It ruins the relationship and no one is "wrong. I dumped my last gf for not wanting to give me bjs. I just find that to be a complete turn off since, when I'm into a chick, I don't my licking anywhere on her body. What's so gross about my body in her mind after I've showered not to go down on me even once in a while? Yup, she's gone. The point is he should just dump her or divorce her if she fucks him like he's not allowed to move or explore her body. He shouldn't sit there and moan about it like an emo high school boy.

BabaElvis · 2015-07-29T03:18:57+00:00

Her husband is the most imp man in her life, sex is one of the most intense pleasures of life.

So what if she experimented with an asshole who pressured her and not her husband who she can easily turn down.She can't do it to make her happy.

I am close to a lot of girls, no one would dare date a guy who pressures them into doing something this uncomfortable.They 'd simply leave.

TheChemist158 · 2015-07-29T00:13:53+00:00

When we say things like "red pillers focus on the worst of women", we don't mean it to be true 100% of the time. It's just something that they commonly do. Sometimes they'll demonize a woman who did nothing wrong.

With this case in particular, I don't think that either are in the wrong. At least not too far. Women are free to experiment sexually. If a woman chooses to make a sex tape with the informed consent of the guy, she isn't doing anything wrong. On the flip side, a guy is free to be disgusted by it. She didn't seem to hide it, so I don't see that she did anything wrong. Then again he might just need some time to process it. She might be overly stressed, thinking the marriage will end. He is not communicating well either.

fundude1 · 2015-07-29T15:35:05+00:00

Who knows if she really didn't "like" doing those things with Mark or it is some later rationalization.

It is very possible that Mark gave her the boot later in their "relationship" for a younger, hotter model.

She could've been highly sexually attracted to Mark but got the boot.

This forced her to "settle" for her new husband, who she "rationalizes" that she really "didn't like the sex with Mark" anyway. However, this doesn't change the reality of her beta bucks husband.

wtknight · 2015-07-29T02:42:33+00:00

Yeah, this story sounds fake in that she is openly admitting that she was louder and did things she wouldn't do with her husband on the video that was conveniently found on her old hard drive. This seems like an odd admission to make and one that plays right into TRP's wheelhouse.

When Blue Pillers refer to "the worst kind" of women, I think the connotation most of the time is not that they are doing bad things, but rather that the women that Red Pill focuses on are the ones that are the most insecure when it comes to relationships. I've never denied that AF/BB exists among a significant subset of women, but not AWALT. The problem is that Red Pill likes to cite individual cases like this and then tries to describe all women as being like the insecure ones.

Sleela17 · 2015-07-28T23:43:37+00:00

Your title is confusing. I don't see how this story relates to AF/BB at all. She wasn't denying her husband anything that she gave to her past boyfriend. She was willing to do a sex tape with him but he didn't want to. How is that her problem? And what does it have to do with AF/BB?

Title	[Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?
Author	rdsthrowaway
Upvotes	8
Comments	112
Date	July 28, 2015 11:39 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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