Hello. I’ve just stumbled upon this subreddit but this is one of the most intelligent discussion’s I’ve seen on Reddit and I hoped it would be okay to give credit to original op since it was archived and allow it to be further discussed upon again:

Original op u/Lo…hum

——“It's common to see men living in the west express sympathy towards women living in countries such as Saudi Arabia or Russia and how bad it is that they don't get the same privileges as women in the west. However, it's clear that the vast majority of these women would behave in the exact same unapologetically misandrist and feminists manner that western women do if they had the opportunity to- as evidenced by the fact that women in the west started doing this as soon as they had the freedom to do so. The fact that they are unable to do so does not make them virtuous, and men would do well to keep that in mind. :Archived.”——

He probably ment Extreme conservative dictatorship’s were women’s rights are severely limited, probably thinking Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen. (No Reddit, most normal men in the world don’t want slave women.)

The reason why this caught my attention is I have remote work in the Philippines and I find it the most fascinating thing these “women” there are not concerned with the slightest of their own ‘virtuous’ survival and contrary to op’s original thought, these girls did act exactly as that even living in a 3rd world extreme poverty country. Act like privileged train wrecked bimbo’s on Miami yachts with billion dollar sugar daddies. (Stupidest thing in the world, come on people)

I found another hilarious comment about the Philippines stating: “the poverty of the philippines with the body count of a western woman, how alluring. its one thing to have your country subject to moral decay when its prosperous, quite another when its poor”

I apologize it has been a long week but what has long driven me mad about Relationship dynamics in the world is the concept of Hypergamy. “The Grass is always Greener Syndrome”. “A Man Sacrifices His Happiness for His Family. A woman Sacrifices Her Family for Her Happiness.” “One Man’s 5years Investment is another Man’s One Night Stand.”

Relating to op’s original thought, if women did act notoriously freely in these extreme conservative dictatorship countries, My Question is…. There would be no End to women’s Demands or Hypergamy? These high end dating markets would just become… more high end, hoe inflation as they call it. Eventually, women wouldn’t be competing for the top 1% man. Even one day that wouldn’t be good enough for them… even if they were 4’s. They would eventually think they deserve .00001% of men… Trillionaires… and then Quad… you get the point.

I’ve personally always seen it said that if men had no Ambition’s to ‘conquer’ and were left to their own devices could be happy with just a tv & a bed… childish boys at heart.

But if theoretically, the feminine hyperamous nature is to infinitely never ending want more…The Best way for a man looking for Long term mate would be to in a way with words “kill her hypergamy”. Fight against it DON’T COMPETE WITH IT and be ‘boring’. This is also why statistically ‘virgin women’, would be better for Longterm Partner even competing against a women with a body count of 1

TLDR: It’s Not so much about finding a woman with a certain perfect conservative background, of course a cleaner background helps tremendously…. But much more as it is about not getting caught in her Hypergamous ‘black hole’ feminine nature.

So yes. Virgin women will always make “Better Loyal Wives” if the two women are exactly the same in every other single metric. I wish the world would stop denying this, it is extremely unhealthy to make young men intentionally unaware of the truth, regardless.

I also seen the irony is If you already are a ‘Thriving successful man at the finish line’, there is not a single thing that women could provide Unconditionally that a man can’t Find or Purchase Elsewhere. (Probably why so many men use Escorts in Monaco/Dubai>Time) Essentially the one thing you’d want them to provide ‘healing’ they still can’t provide.

Sorry for the long post just venting maybe “Love” is just a Fallacy we deny after all, business is tough thank you.

TopTierMan Does a better job: https://youtu.be/Aac9pn0zygI?si=vd77Af0_06mbmqqr