Another myth that is being advocated in TRP: "Getting laid is a symptom of success"

loknarash · 2016-08-20T21:21:13+00:00

It's so true. Just assume that most of the girls you will fuck have fucked some absolutely hideous fuckers before you, and you will unfortunately be right 95% of the time. That dime piece that passed you by has fucked at least one hipster neckbeard with shitty tattoos and thought she had it made. You and all your faults are literally god's gift to that girl, but here you are.

corsega · 2016-08-20T15:32:11+00:00

Thank you. Can't stand posts like "Improve yourself and women will come to you".

They won't.

Even the top 5% most attractive men in the world only get approached once in a blue moon.

You are a man. You need to take charge, go after women and ask them out.

Remember Alec Baldwin's speech from Glengarry Glen Ross? "A guy don't walk on the lot lest he wants to buy. They're sitting out there waiting to give you their money. Are you gonna take it?"

Well, a woman don't get dressed up to go out in public lest she wants to get fucked. They're sitting out there waiting for you to give them your dick.

Are you gonna give it?

ShallITinder · 2016-08-21T01:58:47+00:00

So so true, finally someone admits it. The guys I've known in my life that slept with a ton of women, rarely were they the smooth guys who had top tier looks, most of the times there was nothing special about time other than maybe fitness. The only thing is that these guys put their time into building a lifestyle that attracts women. Just look at the service industry, I work as a bartender during the weekends while having a normal 9 to 5 on the weekdays (yes it is exhausting). I see a lot of guys who are barely good looking or even charismatic yet they sleep with hot girls due to being a bartender, because in the USA a bartender is more attractive than a doctor.

The kinds of guys I've seen who have slept with a boat load of women, if you saw these guys, you would be shocked. Some of them are decent looking, only thing they have going for their beach bodies, but facially they are the typical potato faced average joes.

If you want to sleep with a lot of women, build the lifestyle for it and they will come. Do not be surprised by the fact that the guy who found high school too hard and DJs parties for a living is sleeping with that 10 while you're sexless in your high status corporate 9 to 5.

Jax77789 · 2016-08-20T20:25:18+00:00

Reminds me of the post about silverback gorillas. All females will do, even the most hawt ones, is just give discreet looks. At most they will drop a massive IOI such as touching you etc but it will always be an invitation.

I have been asked out by women before but that was because they did not know me and the only way for them to get to me was through a third party.

Your role as a man is like your dick : you get hard and you thrust forward.

MattyAnon · 2016-08-20T15:39:15+00:00

[ Success = Laid] ... IT IS NOT TRUE

True. Successful does not lead to rolling in pussy. Even Chad needs game. Even if a woman approaches you, you still need some sort of game. I've fucked it up with women who have made it abundantly clear they want me.

This is one of the biggest problems with day-game for guys that just want to get laid. You start with a disadvantage.

Day gamers have massive advantages too. No immediate competition, few distractions, intense girl experience, no friends, much less social pressure working against you.

will be "considering" ... ripped guy...

OP: you're just making things up and whining now. You don't know that this is the case at all. From what I've seen it's the opposite: night game means very high standards and competition, day game it's just you and her and you've already demonstrated high value by approaching sober and she's much less idea how it all plays out.

whatsazipper · 2016-08-21T13:31:50+00:00

I know a couple guys who are complete losers in terms of the material world and are physically average, but because they are hyper-social and have extensive social networks, they get laid far more than anyone else I know. Girls want to have fun.

FreeRadical5 · 2016-08-20T16:29:41+00:00

Thank god someone finally said it. This is a really toxic myth that needs to be squashed because it leads to massive disappointments. I worked like a fucking mad man on myself, before I turned 25 I had a successful career pulling near 6 figures, noticeable results from lifting, great sense of style, am a naturally good looking dude, etc. The one thing I did not work on was increasing my exposure to women.

On a near daily basis I got asked "why don't you get women FreeRadical5"?? It made no sense to any one. Sure occasionally some very desperate ugly girl would throw herself on me but in general I was living in a pussy desert.

All that changed when I reached a breaking point, I quit my fucking demanding job and switched to one that freed up a lot of my energy and time. I took a literal shit on the career I had been building my entire life. Then I put all of that energy and time towards social activities and hobbies that offered exposure to women. Within 3 months I had 3 plates at a minimum at any one time.

Tl;dr: It's simple. Improving self and getting girls is mutually exclusive. Although the former definitely helps with the latter.

I_Need_More_Space_ · 2016-08-20T15:08:42+00:00

Totally right, man. I have a Casanova friend that was slaying like 3 chicks per week. I used to tell him, "I could never do that bro. I don't have the God given qualities like you." He once finally responded with, "Dude you totally could. You just don't want to put in the time and effort, because you got other things going on."

At the time, I discredited the idea that he worked for it. I just thought that he had God given talent with the ladies. Dude is like 6'2" and built like a Viking. He has the best hair I've seen, and he's smart. He has it all, so I was surprised that he stated that he had to put in lots of effort to pull bitches for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Still, I don't have his physical qualities. So, I still couldn't pull his quality of sluts. But, yeah. I really don't give a fuck to actively go out and pursue 10 women per day. I smile, I flirt, and if I actually find a chick somewhat tolerable, then I ask her out.

As for my good friend, Casanova, he's actually turning a new leaf and dropping the man-whoring. He told me its gotten old. He's now looking to improve his own self and happiness. It seems that what OP states is true. Slayin' bitches and self improvement/personal growth are USUALLY mutually exclusive. Energy is energy. If one hobby takes ups 95% of your energy in every week you're not gonna have much left for anything else.

errrzarrr · 2016-08-20T21:03:59+00:00

We have here idealized and romanticized Hypergamy and Chad too. We think if a girl cheats or have a ONS with a dude she have never seen before then that guy –Chad– automatically is a strong muscular fit guy with abs Brad Pitt looking, rich and perfect frame always, like a heroe in a Hollywood movie. Rarely I have seen this is the case, most of the time guys are pure shit.

Hypergamy: We tend to thing this always drives towards an improvement in gene pool, socio economic status, bla bla. So Is justified if they do, and you see some guys justified like cucks it was a good thing. Not always bro, not always

sd4c · 2016-08-20T15:59:11+00:00

There is one huge advantage to daygame: you can see the woman in sunlight. To quote Ovid:

"Night, and wine do not allow one to judge well about beauty. Night hides flaws."

BluepillProfessor · 2016-08-20T22:40:17+00:00

Part of improvement is learning to assert yourself and to be dominate. There is no doubt this attracts women. However, you ALSO have to actually approach and talk to women. You actually have to go out of your way. Women will not typically just fall on your cock. You have to position them first no matter how hawwt you are- unless your gig is a rock band drummer playing before thousands of people every night you are going to need to make an effort to approach. Then you are going to need to make an effort to Instigate...Isolate..Escalate (aka seduction).

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-08-20T14:52:40+00:00

Self improvement applies to all areas:

Improvement in health, fitness, strength, and appearance.
Improvement in knowledge so you understand the full implications of things.
Improvement in Frame so that the herd mind does not drive your actions.
Improvement in Game skills to better manipulate the reality you live in.
Improvement in financial position by eliminating all debts.

kremer5 · 2016-08-20T22:01:06+00:00

isn't learning game part of becoming successful? if your self development doesn't include learning how to get laid (game), then your path to success is fundamentally flawed. (self development is success in and of itself if you define it properly. goals are different)

you cannot have success without getting laid because getting laid should be a part of your definition of success. jmo

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-08-21T16:26:27+00:00

Self improvement ups your SMV, boosts your confidence, instills Alpha mindset etc. Attraction from women naturally follows. You can either play the numbers game, cold approach/Tinder swipe like a motherfucker. Or you can enjoy the lifestyle you've build up, have fun with friends, relish in your hobbies and job. And should the opportunity present itself- bang some poon.

What you say is true though. Your bitch might get drunk in a bar and fuck an SMV-5 guy for funsies. Whilst being incredibly critical on your SelfImprovementAss during daytime. Women are stupid like that.

makechangegreatagain · 2016-08-20T18:57:08+00:00

If you're successful in life, it probably means you're somewhat outgoing, assertive, and confident.

Given this is true, said guy doesn't need to be told to "approach approach approach!" because it's a natural instinct to approach and ask a girl out who he's keen to. Confident men see what they want and take it.

I agree with you that one needs to actually put in effort to meeting girls. You may have a great job and make a lot of money, but is that truly "success"? My father makes 80k a year, but he's worked a job that he absolutely hates and complains about. He's a pretty miserable person and regularly takes out this anger on the people around him. He has no hobbies, doesn't exercise (other than going for walks), and eats garbage food.. He's generally an unhappy person (despite the fact that my dad, at age 60 gets more pussy than most of my friends do; he's just old school and was raised to be a man). I have another family member who used to be a lawyer. The job drove her absolutely miserable to the point where she developed serious alcoholism (chemical dependency). Now, she works as a shift leader at a grocery store and is much happier and sober despite living on a working class wage.

Point is, some people think they're successful when they're not. To me, "success" is living a happy life and doing whatever the fuck you want within the parameters of law. This means acting on your desires in an IDGAF context. Not being anxious. Being friendly with others and not thinking "gee whiz I hope I don't annoy her with my small talk!" (this is the mindset of a beta loser/person who has social anxiety issues). If she gets annoyed that's her problem and she can solve it by walking away or cutting the convo short.

TomFoo · 2016-08-20T20:28:16+00:00

But I was told Redpill = Super Powers.

harsha_hs · 2016-08-20T16:59:47+00:00

One thing I've noticed is, after you increase ur SMV, gals will give more value to your messages, and always respond back with more texts than you.

errrzarrr · 2016-08-20T20:51:23+00:00

Right, but don't forsake the path of improvement either way. Don't draw false conclusions

MinskVichyssoisse · 2016-08-21T01:01:09+00:00

You're right about that, pursuing success alone does not always result in getting laid, but there is one important result of going after you want, that makes you insanely attractive to women, and that is pride. When you have pride in your capabilities as a man to succeed in any endeavor you set your mind to, when you see yourself as a powerful, competent man, women notice that shit, sure you will still have to put in work to get laid but it will make it much easier if you have a powerful frame of mind. And if you put that chubby manlet and the ripped well dressed, AMBITIOUS dude in the same room, without fail the women will go for the second guy-- and theres no shortage of these wherever you go, whether it be a club or a bar, so you gotta measure up to the competition.

Stythe · 2016-08-21T05:43:43+00:00

You're right in that you will have to direct efforts towards that end, but it's not entirely unrelated. If you work out consistently that helps by giving you easier openings. If you make bank it will allow you more freedoms when out on dates and the like. More knowledge, especially I'm the realm of social skills/ dynamics all male gaming easier.

It true that you have to direct energy away from these things when dating, but considering how much easier it is to get numbers and dates when you're out and about your business then it is by clubbing and partying it's not like you can't plan these things easily enough while keeping a consistent routine. You just have to find the balance that satisfies you. The biggest amount if work if deciding that.

the_red_monk · 2016-08-21T14:27:27+00:00

It's not a myth at all. Yes, game is a component. But it's easier than you might think once you have the other stuff going for you. Also, social skills are something I would describe as part of the TRP self-improvement program. You're going to get a lot of attention from women if you go to a party and own the room.

Rommel0502 · 2016-08-21T16:37:51+00:00

I see this post as an oxymoron. To the point - being able to approach is PART of improving yourself. Yes, if your are completely buff from a year of hard gym work and still dont approach, you arent going to bed many more women. However, approaching when you are completely buff is leagues easier than if your are chubby, and the results will self-reinforce themselves.

Its war. You need to both arm yourself, and have the willingness to use them.

ItsTheHomeWrecker · 2016-08-21T23:27:32+00:00

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_TheRP · 2016-08-24T20:35:18+00:00

Eh, I disagree. Climb high enough socially, physically, and mentally and they really do come to you. The 'work' you have to put in is no different than the 'work' you should be doing as a function of being a man - engaging people, controlling the room, etc.

Example:

I had my teeth cleaned this morning. Hygienist was a super cute little chick, and at first glance I thought she was married. Turns out she wasn't, she was wearing a ring on her left hand based on one of her interests. Started taking to her about that, flirted here and there, asked her about herself and let her talk for awhile. She was already giving all the signs of interest before she even started cleaning my teeth.

Got a phone call during, had to take it. She asked me what I do and I told her I own a company that provides services. Pretty much sewn up at that point, and I literally did nothing.

She asked me out at the end of the appointment.

What work did I put in? I lift so I'm in half ass decent shape. I was well groomed, which you should always be. I wasn't dressed particularly nice but I didn't look unkempt. I was engaging and funny as I always am. I've reached a high level professionally because I'm ambitious, able, and pretty fucking arrogant - but I continuously deliver on that arrogance. All things that ~~women~~ people respond to.

Work on yourself. Work, work, work. Women will follow, along with a whole host of other shit.

McLarenX · 2016-08-21T03:29:19+00:00

You guys are really negative. Last time I was in Vegas I was approached by 5 different girls ended up fucking two of them. Simply by being 6'8 and in lean muscular shape, confident and well dressed,

p3n1x · 2016-08-21T15:19:06+00:00

This whole post is some defeatist bullshit.

People are magnetic by nature. Some stronger than others. You give off chemicals, show micro body languages, certain tones in your voice that you have NO CONSCIOUS CONTROL over. These attributes filtrate into others. They speak for you even when you are quiet and still.

You change your atmosphere by changing yourself and what you want to be part of your reality.

Just because a woman isn't in your face making noise, does not mean she hasn't approached you.

This post should say, "stop trying to get easy pussy by being a lazy fuck".

will actually TAKE away time from self-improvement most of the times

Work on your time management. Do not equate "work" self improvement with "social" self improvement. They can play off of one another, but are not the same thing.

Mr-Mega · 2016-08-21T18:54:16+00:00

Quick story. I used to work at a store when I was younger. This punk guy got this manager position because his dad was on top of things. This really pissed me off. So I went out of my way to one up him. I wore a shirt, tie, dress pants and shoes everyday. And the ladies ALWAYS came to me first. They would never hit on me but I always had that opening. Later, one of these girls I got a number from said.."the day we met I knew I wanted you. You looked large and in charge".

They give you an opening, take it.

scarletspider3 · 2016-08-20T18:05:07+00:00

Success just means u qualify as a BB

Title	Another myth that is being advocated in TRP: "Getting laid is a symptom of success"
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