Day 1 on “red pill”

Sir_Distic · 2020-09-24T02:19:49+00:00

Neediness kills attraction in women. Neediness reminds women of children. Children are the opposite of sexual attraction for women. So she stops thinking of you as a man and starts thinking of you as a child. Thus no sexual attraction or interest.

How do you stop being needy? You develop a life without her. A life that, if she left, would continue to grow better every day. A life that, if she left, you'd be just fine because you have other interests besides her.

Once you stop "needing" her she will want you more than ever. Once she sees you improve to a point that other women are attracted to you, she will realize she's in danger of losing you. Either she ups her game or gets insanely jealous. Either way you benefit. Because the second one means you walk away.

Lucky_green_eyes · 2020-09-24T01:08:42+00:00

hell yeh..good job man.

im not down with some of the shit here either but theres info and perspectives on this sub you wont hear anywhere else.

the best thing the red pill has done for me was lead me in the direction of stoicism.

you hate certain aspects of this sub and yet you clearly see its reflection in society. this shit is real. redpill will be the first to tell you this is only a tool in your belt. this is just one area of reading. come here when you need to and leave again when youve had your fill. overall this sub will be great for you and help you gain perspective in a way that makes you happier and your gf more attracted to you.

derpitaway · 2020-09-24T02:42:15+00:00

When you go all the way with the red pill you don’t hate women. You just understand yourself better. Don’t fall for tricks but you understand your attraction. Women aren’t the bad ones. It was us. Settled for less than we deserved. We played the game wrong. At some point we didn’t and we see why we got suckered.

EEIET0718 · 2020-09-24T01:35:16+00:00

I would probably start having a lot more me time in the gym and just spend less time with her overall.

abomba24 · 2020-09-24T04:08:48+00:00

You're barking up the right tree with self improvement being #1.

As for the "women hating" - many guys, myself included, go through this phase once swallowing the pill. Hypergamy and all the rest is biological and as much as it sucks at first it's part of life.

But actually learning more about the nature of intersexual dynamics and applying the principles here... women should be a fun part aspect of your life. If you choose so

Irtotallynotrobot · 2020-09-24T03:00:46+00:00

This place is a shadow of what it used to be. Trust nothing in the comments, only the archived posts and readings. You might reject it at first, you mention women hating, but it's almost all accurate. What initially might seem toxic only looks that way because society has a way of turning things upside down.

not_enough_wawas · 2020-09-24T02:05:49+00:00

A lot of the work is just about describing intersexual dynamics in a clinical, unvarnished way. In that sense it’s just a form of anthropology. What you do with that with regard to value judgements is up to you. Personally, people acting according their natures isn’t generally something to condemn a person for. However, you can also see how people that want to deny some of these insights end up in unhappy relationships. So the right approach isn’t to judge, but work within the framework to make you and your partners happy.

If if there’s one fact that rules all, it’s definitely “you can’t negotiate genuine desire”. That pretty much sums up everything

swaggyquack · 2020-09-24T04:43:04+00:00

As someone in a LTR, I’ll tell you nothing works better to cure deadbedroom than working on yourself. I felt the same thing last year and have been able to turn around the bedroom because I started lifting and not being a bitch. My girlfriend sees my drive and is attracted to that.. and the new muscle mass is just a bonus.

Tek_Analyst · 2020-09-24T03:56:14+00:00

Basically you got it right.

The hard part is doing it, while still wanting sex, affection, blah blah.

Don’t get too worked up on the “not give a fuck part.” Just do you. Don’t worry about how she sees you. Once you actually start changing and being more attractive, she will change. Control will shift to you. Just stay the course.

mozppc · 2020-09-24T05:07:38+00:00

Sorry to say it but most feminists do hate men. Other than that, keep getting your red pills on a daily basis

VOICE_OF_OBLIVION · 2020-09-24T06:05:52+00:00

My dear brother, TRP is not a religion, you don't have to accept everything here. I myself don't accept everything here despite being here since 2014. But the concepts prove themselves whether we accept them or not. I critically examine everything and use what I know will be of use to me. But you have to be brutally honest with yourself -- and it looks like you are if you think you're beta.

Pick yourself up bro. I know what it feels like to crave affection. You're a man. You don't need that shit. One step at a time bro. Your genes have the biological code of a killer, a warrior, a beast of nature, the apex predator of this universe --- you don't need pussy shit. Build yourself up. Build yourself into a better man for yourself -- and for others who need your help.

Goodluck my bro

FancyRough · 2020-09-24T07:52:30+00:00

This is a book which I think can help you, No More Mr. Nice Guy

Don't judge this book by it's title. At least read first few chapters to get an idea of what this book is about. (you can pirate it before buying it, DM me if you need a pdf)

This book is not about being a jerk but to become a complete man in yourself.

actuallythink · 2020-09-24T05:05:10+00:00

Understanding that women are subpar to men is not sexist or anti-woman. It’s truth. They know it and that’s why they will gleefully choke on a cock and swallow the load.

Kick that self-defeating attitude that you are on their level or they will never respect you the way you deserve. It’s impossible.

Men create the world in which women live luxuriously. They know it and they CRAVE for you to understand it without them telling you about it.

Caveat: don’t be a dickhead. Know it, walk like you know it, but don’t overtly act like you know it and for gods fucking sake never fucking say it out loud...

The-Snuffleupagus · 2020-09-24T04:54:01+00:00

In my opinion the vocal minority just happens to be those that are constantly going through the rage phase and have not accepted life for what it is, it’s constants, variables, and just fucked up.

yaboyebeatz · 2020-09-24T05:53:27+00:00

Never hate woman. No one ever shall preach that if you take the redpill, you must hate woman. The ones who say they hate woman or or anti woman or whatever the fuck they want to say, are on a totally different path. The first thing you must do is understand female nature. Woman are hardwired by nature as we men, are hardwired by nature to be the men we are. Understanding female nature, understanding who you are as a man and where you need to be as a man is the goal. Listen bro, the relationship you are in is pretty much over with, your gf sees you as a blue pill beta. There isn’t really any chance of you changing how she looks at you in the future. Things will only get worse for you. My suggestion is to leave, exit the relationship. Leave any and all scarcity mindset in the past and understand that this one woman, doesn’t mean the end of your life. Get your act together if you haven’t already, job, gym, savings, own place etc and start to fucking focus on yourself. Start to be at peace with being alone and not needed a woman around. Start going out alone, hang out with your boys, all the fun shit you don’t do anymore. The end isn’t over for you but the end is over for her. Leave, stop communication, and begin your journey understanding and growing as a better man. These hoes can wait, they aren’t going anywhere! When your ready, on your shit, you understand female nature, I fucking guarantee your whole life will change for the better. Good luck on your journey king.

Edit- I just read this and I’m all over the place but you’ll get it bro. Redpill is about improving who you are as a man, not a fucking gang or club to bash woman, this isn’t the fucking he-man woman haters club lol. The hate is momentarily because majority of us have been hurt. It’s all the same bro. You’ll get over it, they’ll get over it, the hate passes. We live our lives as we please, we are the higher value humans, we are so caught up in our purpose in life, these woman gravitate to us. They want us. Imagine if all the blue pill beta ass simps were redpill, imagine how the fuck woman would be?!

Stay on your grind, fuck these hoes, you are the alpha king.

Izalias · 2020-09-24T06:57:23+00:00

You're not beta, you've just been drinking the Coolaid and throwing back those blue pills.

Your partner is going to try to mould you like clay or putty into what she feels like she wants, but you're not clay and putty, your supposed to be flint and steel because she wants flint and steel not clay or putty.

Flint and steel makes sparks, clay and putty collapses into a mess.

Hviterev · 2020-09-24T06:18:30+00:00

Good on you mate. Also, the hate isn't red pill. People hating women around here are the fucking black pills losers who are too weak to take truth straight to the chin like you just did, so they blame women instead of learning to like the game.

I hope you'll become a better man from what you learned here!

Oenoanda · 2020-09-24T07:32:30+00:00

Maybe read something like 3% men from Corey Wayne. It’s definitely red pill, but also with some of the same values that you have.

Nv1sioned · 2020-09-24T13:11:21+00:00

The red pillers that hate women are bitter betas that refuse to improve themselves

TrpKid2 · 2020-09-24T02:05:22+00:00

Good luck trying to reach blue pill goals in a reality that won't allow for that.

negdawin · 2020-09-24T07:52:18+00:00

You sound like a normal guy. Not obsessed with hating women, and not looking to be a master player either.

Just pick up some tips here, get your mindset right, and find a nice girl for you. Personally that's what I'm looking for as well.

KORB4311 · 2020-09-24T13:38:53+00:00

Since you’re new here, I have to give one piece of advice for you when interpreting RedPill Philosophy. Take and do with it what you will.

Anyone who “hates” or thinks negatively of women in a general sense doesn’t understand RedPill philosophy. This sub (these days mostly the side bar) is designed and intended for you to understand human nature from a clear-er lens than before. To strip away the social conditioning controlling your thought process. A great supplement to this is the Human Behavioral Biology course available on YouTube from Stanford’s Sapolsky. It’s inherently RedPill just off the subject matter discussed.

No truly RedPilled man or naturally “Alpha” man hates women. They just see and understand women (human beings) for what they are. They see women for what and who they are. This isn’t an anti-women sentiment.

You wouldn’t be angry about a tree growing tall and doing what a tree does, would you? Of course not, it’s a tree. Then don’t be angry and upset about a women doing what a woman does. Once you understand the primate behavioral biology that influences us all, things start to seem really obvious. All the RedPill teaches is simple: See things for what they are, focus on yourself because nobody else will do it for you.

cummonster21 · 2020-09-24T16:58:46+00:00

Redpill isn’t hating women bro, people who hate women are either in the anger phase or not redpill.

R36UL4R · 2020-09-24T20:48:23+00:00

sorry to say this man but once attraction is gone or it was never there then there is no way to save that relationship but you can try it out and if you do post about the results here please

chris74angryfan · 2020-09-24T04:36:44+00:00

Read your post and you will better understand why you're a beta, let go of your indoctrination.

BustedEarly · 2020-09-24T04:25:14+00:00

Once you’ve outed yourself as a beta for so long she’ll know your red pill routine is LARP asf. Women are good at reading psychology and behavior. As others have said though, you have a shot if you start lifting and distance yourself from her and become less needy, but don’t try to act all cold on her right away, she’ll leave.

wanker7171 · 2020-09-24T07:07:29+00:00

I also have to say I don’t like the “hate” for women I see

Most guys here are still in the anger phase, hating women is not part of TRP despite how much other people try to say it is.

But both sides seem to think their own gender is superior in a way.

This is pure projection from reddit. The genders are different but that doesn't mean those differences make one gender "superior." An example is how women are generally more emotionally attuned to conversation. That makes it annoying for guys who just want to communicate analytically, as I used to, but in figuring out if a guy is a creep? It's almost perfect for that.

It’s not my goal to break up with said gf and just fuck random girls.

It's more of a 50/50 split on this sub with those who want relationships vs those who want to be 400 yr old pussy smashers with an n-count that it too high to count.

Life will fall into place once I am creating a better version of myself even if that means the relationship ends

Couldn't have said it better myself

Thistimeup99 · 2020-09-24T01:39:38+00:00

You can still recover with the current girl! Welcome to the community.

It won't let me post a link, but lookup the post on the 'red pill 12 steps of dread' and read it all!

trollreign · 2020-09-24T08:22:01+00:00

Good effort man! Best of luck on your journey!

GulpAndCry · 2020-09-24T08:49:26+00:00

focus fully on yourself. she will reward your efforts appropriately. dont give in to her weak attempts to slow you down. she may not know it consiously but she will be grateful in the long run.

tenpointmatt · 2020-09-24T11:33:55+00:00

There's no going back, and that's a good thing. I'd bet that two years from now you won't even recognize yourself today on day one.

Keep reading, and constantly apply what you learn to your everyday life. It will help you understand so much of what motivates people's behavior. You'll see women's hamsters spinning in real time, you'll see alllll the double standards in messaging, marketing, and media. You'll see history from an entirely new perspective - how the timing of the equality movement arose only when womens 'equality' to men became advantageous for them (when there were no laborious and dangerous jobs, and no wars to be fought). You'll see the revisionist history that has been introduced since, which has painted women as victims of an oppression that in reality never existed (Jordan Peterson has lots of good lectures that touch on that, and I've found that Hardcore History by Dan Carlin is an excellent window into understanding how things really were in past eras).

You'll see how the current focus on womens 'equality' applies only to job fields that are prestigious and well-paying, and are never applied to to garbage collection professions, prison populations, victim rates of violent crimes, selective service, courtroom disparities, or traditional expectations of chivalry. You'll see how women are always portrayed as "most affected". Always. You'll see the two sets of rules women have - written, and unwritten (see: making rules for betas, breaking rules for alphas). You'll see hypergamy EVERYWHERE you look, as well as how women aim to optimize the alpha/beta tradeoffs. You'll see a LOT of "beta" guy friends getting bulldozed by their gfs/wives, who demean, degrade, and emasculate them - even in public - because she has no confidence whatsoever in his ability to lead. And you'll instantly recognize that she would never, ever, pull that shit on a man she respected and looked up to. And as much as you want to help those guys - you'll understand that you can't. Not until they're ready.

The most important thing for my life was understanding the effects of women's rights movement have had in the wider world, and how that in turn, has affected me - in the dating marketplace when single, and in the home, as a married man. The idea that "men and women are equal" has shaped the social and cultural sphere into a place where men have become unnecessary - and essentially develop into defective girls (as you can relate to). And the decline of the nuclear family and especially the role of the father has been the result (see: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2019/08/14/what-are-fathers-for/ ).

What this means for me as a husband and father is that I must do the best I can to uphold the old order and old rules - being a responsible head of household and in charge of my family's well being - while also knowing that in reality, none of it holds. I can be zeroed out any time my wife decides she "can do better". Thus, prenuptial agreement in place, and constant preventive maintenance - be ready to be out on your ass tomorrow. It's a shitty situation, which arose from the fact that men are given no authority over their families, but it's the world we live in. And to be fair, there are upsides - pussy is basically free, for example.

Always maintain frame over any relationship you're in. Read up on the Rational Male essays, and Dalrock. Good luck!

GunnerIronPile · 2020-09-24T12:11:50+00:00

You wont want or need mothers love soon enough my man. Once you realize that womens love to a man is based on admiration and respect, then thats all you will want to receive.

Also, the hate you see is mostly new guys, who really hate themselves, for allowing society to foist beta behavior on them. Intitially, the hate is good to kill off the protective instinct men have for women. Its fine to feel that way, but one must save it for women who deserve it.

In time, you will mellow out. Personally, I think a touch of misogyny is good for a man in the same way a little mud is good for a pig. It certainly wont hinder you from slaying pussy

rgund27 · 2020-09-24T12:12:20+00:00

Congrats bro. Keep making daily progress and remember the main thing is to improve yourself and live the life you want to live. Check out Corey Wayne’s shit, as I think he puts TRP basics into really good practice.

TeddyMGTOW · 2020-09-24T12:58:05+00:00

Welcome to the club. We heard the story a thousand times, LTR with one women and sex dwindles down to nothing. But fear not, it does not have to be this why. Read the Rational Male, and plate theory where you don't rely on one pussy.

BestVersionOfMyself_ · 2020-09-24T13:21:18+00:00

Welcome to your new life brother.

Many good men will give you many good advice here so I only give you one to protect you from the feeling of being overwhelmed.

Have a hard grip on this community because this thing works. You have TRP and you have a free will, thus you have everything you need to rise as phoenix into your new self.

Best of luck on your journey, have discipline, change won't happen in a day, never quit.

noviceoutlaw · 2020-09-24T14:28:40+00:00

Yeah you're taking some good lessons away. The correct relationship between men and women youre looking for is in the BIBLE. God's way is the right way, the best, the original, Truth is everything as God sees it, period. And its not some tyrannical overrule by the man. Nor ruling by the woman. We're different, good men are capable and should be the leader in the most tribal sense, but they are one. But yeah, dont refer to yourself as a beta, there is such a thing as toxic masculinity (i think mike glover has a vid on it bht ive never watched it but you should youtube it). But youre honesty is awesome and its good you recognize where youre currently at, cutting through the BS, if you say you've been a little bitch then i definitely believe you, we all are and it takes hundreds even thousands of little seemingly insignificant decisions every day to make up a good man, and only a few to make a weak man. You should get into some martial arts, jiu jitsu is amazing for smaller guys (if you are smaller), but i mean its great for everyone, maybe check that out.

Snowboard18 · 2020-09-24T14:40:12+00:00

Here’s a common misunderstanding, we don’t “hate” women. Well maybe a few because they are incels, but most of us don’t at all.

I love women. I appreciate them for their true nature and like the fact that they are hypergamous, they are carrying on natural selection which has almost been eliminated due to mordern medicine and the idea of marriage.

Here is why it may seem like hate....

We view everything through the lens of reality and reality alone. We don’t let emotion cloud our view of women and fantasize about all the sweet like innocent girls. We see them for exactly as they are and talk in a “matter of fact” type of way, not sugarcoating the truth about anything

yomo86 · 2020-09-24T16:15:15+00:00

There are several threads on TRP who deal with lost attraction for a plate. Usually the plate goes ballistic or a similiar behaviour. Try to reach a level of abundance with women where a single attractive woman can become a nuissance rather than an asset

coelholoner · 2020-09-24T16:19:06+00:00

Ive already met someone who was in this situation. If you're not happy, she isn't either. One thing that can happen is she breaks up with you first, and then, my friend, you will suffer a lot more for experiencing the feeling of being "abandoned". So be careful and try to talk more with her.
So good luck my friend! I just don't want to see another friend being abandoned and blaming themselve for everything again, at least be in control of everything, okay?

batfish55 · 2020-09-24T18:31:00+00:00

Read Rollo at therationalmale.com. Start with the best of stuff.

jawnzoo · 2020-09-24T18:53:00+00:00

Glad to see you're making an effort.

Just remember no one's perspective is ever 100% right.

jh1871 · 2020-09-24T19:12:45+00:00

Good stuff, and I don’t agree with the hating women aspect either. That’s derived more fron people with the frustration with struggle than it is with the actual “red pill” thought in my mind. This way of thinking is amoral and isn’t stigmatizing a certain sex. It is simply developing the best strategy to do well in whatever interpersonal relationships you have.

Btw, in your current predicament your last paragraph is key. Be the best version of yourself with or without her, and focus on your main course so if your side dishes changes it doesn’t change your mission.

CocoaPill · 2020-09-24T20:25:11+00:00

This is Day 1, you don’t even know how you’ll come out if you keep reading and ingesting the pill. Good luck, the journey sucks balls

ChadowyFigure · 2020-09-25T12:59:14+00:00

My impression when I first arrived was that there were many men here who hated women. As the pill really sinks in though, it is more that you lose the ability to take most of them seriously. They are all posturing and projection, and have behaviors and reactions that are almost scripted once you learn how to draw them out.

I still love my wife after the pill, but the dynamic is totally different... more like she is a beloved pet that I am training. Which might sound like "hate" if you haven't had enough experience with them after taking the pill, but it really isn't. They prefer this dynamic too, although most of them would never admit it.

Anyway, welcome. You remind me of me when I first showed up. Read Rollo, and feel free to message me if you want help or perspective.

187oddfuture · 2020-09-24T17:21:54+00:00

I’ve found what works best for me is that I love my girl 80%, and I hate her 20%. I watched the Black Phillip Show, and one of the best things Patrice said was that you have to leave a little bit of yourself to hate your girl. If you love her 100%, you’ll get burned because you’ll be a beta and she’ll trample you. That 20% keeps you honest and keeps you in a state of abundance. You love your woman, but if she gets out of line enough, or if something bad happens, you still have the power to walk away. They don’t want you to love them 100%. That’s for them to do to you. They tag along for the ride with a strong man, you lead she follows. If you make her the 100% priority of your life, you aren’t leading her, and she’ll resent you over time.

You have to leave a little bit of your heart to hate your girl. Plus it makes the sex better.

unafraidofdeath · 2020-09-24T18:46:19+00:00

Here's some unethical redpill advice: try steroids

Title	Day 1 on “red pill”
Author	littleblackballoon
Upvotes	374
Comments	102
Date	September 24, 2020 12:59 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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